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My feeling is that it helps. Well biassed feeling, since I wanted to try it out after last seasons horrible-LB-times (and I'm not 100% all speed+agi LB sort of guy), and have seen games where it helped (read: LB behaviour has changed).

It's either that or some stealth boost towards defensive plays that I'm not aware of (Bort has not mentioned anything, but seems like TE shut-down etc. is easier this season) and/or LBs are generally more awake in the field instead of just running behind.

Have to say that I only look at the starting positions vs. O-play, not having any chance seeing what are the exact setup for D AI. Might be a big difference, but I don't think so. Yes, LBs still drop back, coverage plays order them to do that, and LBs do what coaches tell them. So in some plays, it's definitely a fucked-up D-play call that matters more than vision thing.

The only thing in the Def AI that deals specifically with the LBs is shifting to strong/weak side or not at all. Nothing that will prompt them to drop back. The Drop back itself just looks like the LB is just "doing something" because the ball was snapped.

Originally posted by Rod Long
Originally posted by CapnEnnui/Underdogs

shameless self validative BS


I made this thread for other people. Go make your own threads and see if you get a quarter of the response. I guarantee you any thread/manifesto you come up with will have a post count totaling 25% of the number of people that PM me asking me for specific help.

I didn't think so.

I am a hostile dick to those people like yourself that play themselves off as knowledgeable by simply regurgitating forum BS. Seriously, this is to help people. If you need the validation and attention that badly, then go make your own thread.

And I may not be the godsend of LBs, but between wallysmith, Darren McFadden, myself and a few others, then who has made more of a contribution both publicly and with recognition?

It must be nice to have the economy of our posted experience layed before you to blueprint an effective and fun player before ever having played a game. We have been winning since season 2 with dominant LBs. There is no substitute for experience through the everchanging climate of 6 seasons.

I'm sorry but you just won't make a name for yourself trying to take me on, bro. My supporters and the agents of hundred+ PMs a season I respond to will gladly flick you away. You guys don't get it. This isn't about me. Its about helping new agents. I don't know why people need to pimp themselves in this thread. Its nauseating.

Back on topic

Seems the vision experiment worked for OLBs like a charm this season and to a lesser extent the MLBs because of decreased coverage opportunities.





That's the most stupid thing I have ever read.

Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by Rod Long

Originally posted by CapnEnnui/Underdogs


shameless self validative BS


I made this thread for other people. Go make your own threads and see if you get a quarter of the response. I guarantee you any thread/manifesto you come up with will have a post count totaling 25% of the number of people that PM me asking me for specific help.

I didn't think so.

I am a hostile dick to those people like yourself that play themselves off as knowledgeable by simply regurgitating forum BS. Seriously, this is to help people. If you need the validation and attention that badly, then go make your own thread.

And I may not be the godsend of LBs, but between wallysmith, Darren McFadden, myself and a few others, then who has made more of a contribution both publicly and with recognition?

It must be nice to have the economy of our posted experience layed before you to blueprint an effective and fun player before ever having played a game. We have been winning since season 2 with dominant LBs. There is no substitute for experience through the everchanging climate of 6 seasons.

I'm sorry but you just won't make a name for yourself trying to take me on, bro. My supporters and the agents of hundred+ PMs a season I respond to will gladly flick you away. You guys don't get it. This isn't about me. Its about helping new agents. I don't know why people need to pimp themselves in this thread. Its nauseating.

Back on topic

Seems the vision experiment worked for OLBs like a charm this season and to a lesser extent the MLBs because of decreased coverage opportunities.





That's the most stupid thing I have ever read.

Sounds like it is about self recognition.

And, the economy of our posted experience? What???

Originally posted by velhoo

btw, has anyone seen any LB with zero points in SAs? Could that work (most likely better for OLB than ILB, since the def.general still sounds like good stuff)?

You know, I'm not a big fan of SAs, I think they take too many SPs away from the attributes to "possibly" get the desired effect. I have a lvl 12 LB that I think I'll experiment with, using no SAs.

Originally posted by kentrol72
Originally posted by velhoo


btw, has anyone seen any LB with zero points in SAs? Could that work (most likely better for OLB than ILB, since the def.general still sounds like good stuff)?

You know, I'm not a big fan of SAs, I think they take too many SPs away from the attributes to "possibly" get the desired effect. I have a lvl 12 LB that I think I'll experiment with, using no SAs.

Don't put anything into SAs until you're around LVL 20. Also, many SAs don't start to have a major effect until you get them to 5+.

Originally posted by voltageaav
Originally posted by kentrol72

Originally posted by velhoo



btw, has anyone seen any LB with zero points in SAs? Could that work (most likely better for OLB than ILB, since the def.general still sounds like good stuff)?

You know, I'm not a big fan of SAs, I think they take too many SPs away from the attributes to "possibly" get the desired effect. I have a lvl 12 LB that I think I'll experiment with, using no SAs.

Don't put anything into SAs until you're around LVL 20. Also, many SAs don't start to have a major effect until you get them to 5+.

Its not when you should put into SAs I'm trying to prove, its IF you need to use them at all. How many SPs do you have to use to just to get Shed Block to +5? Im guessing that all of those SPs could go into basic attributes and still give you the results you looking for.

yeah, most of the LB high-tier SAs feel kinda crap, so I'm considering quite much of waste of time currently (lvl41-42 players), maybe at some point I'll put some cooler ones over the 5+ line.

Shed block to +5 is:
Trash talk: 1,2 = 1,1
The Glare: 1,2,3 = 1,1,2
Shed block: 1,2,3,4,5 = 1+1+2+2+3
total = 2+4+9 = 15 pts

if you incl. the Custom Eq. boost to that bit easier...

btw, does Custom Eq. extra +1 to whole tree also count for the prerequistes so that the limits of next SAs in the tree benefit from the +1 (next skill can be raised by 1+1)? I think it does not, but haven't tested it.

Shed Block and Diving Tackle are both definitely worth it.

Originally posted by voltageaav
Shed Block and Diving Tackle are both definitely worth it.


Im guessing with a decent amount of agility and vision I can do without shed bock. High amounts of jumping and a respectable level of tackling will cover Dive tackle.

Im going to start my own thread on this.

Originally posted by kentrol72
Originally posted by velhoo

Rod, how high vision did you test? I agree that vision cuts down the fall-back distance in some plays a lot - pretty cool to see LOLB just standing still and wait for the HB to run to a trap.
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Wait, I've been plugging about that LB drop back for 2 seasons now..your saying higher vision will cut that down?

Maybe a little bit but the high vision LBs are getting picks like crazy. Plus it helps them have a 'nose for the ball' more.

Originally posted by Rod Long
Originally posted by kentrol72

Originally posted by velhoo


Rod, how high vision did you test? I agree that vision cuts down the fall-back distance in some plays a lot - pretty cool to see LOLB just standing still and wait for the HB to run to a trap.
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Wait, I've been plugging about that LB drop back for 2 seasons now..your saying higher vision will cut that down?

Maybe a little bit but the high vision LBs are getting picks like crazy. Plus it helps them have a 'nose for the ball' more.

Yea I've noticed that difference with vision in the 50's vice just below the soft cap. I wanna see what vision beyond the 2nd cap and more confidence will do.

Hi guys it seems y can help me with my LB
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1070908
there are only 4 points on speed at equipment. Can be sold as well
I have slow built him and now I got 70 SP to spent.....itīs time to hit some ball bitches I think he would be a got fit at OLB

would be cool to give me some advice
THX

Although the tips at the start are really good, what is a good starting build? What should I try to start with in terms of height/weight and stats?