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bhall43
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Originally posted by threadkiller
In one quote you seem to think the GLB userbase (or at least some of it) is pretty resourceful, organized, and intelligent. In the next you seem to assume that many of those same individuals either are not, or did not apply their innate qualities to the information they were given by admin or the additional flex they received at no cost.

Honestly, I think giving free flex to the whales is just good business. I also don't have a problem with the private forums. I'm not stupid enough to believe they had little/no value to those who were a part of them though.


Huh? I said exactly what they got out of the high roller forum in my post.


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High Roller Forum: A place in which 30 or so of the bigger flex spenders of the game (not all of them mind you, because I know dpride and what not wasn't in there) were brought together to discuss what they would like to see out of the game. They got to know what Catch was working on to present to Bort. They got to discuss those things and possibly sway Catch's mind if there were some good ideas. (Remember that everything still had to go through Bort at the end of the day). Basically it was sort of a suggestion thread from a group of guys who were big spenders on the game.


The value they got from that forum was a better ear to catch on the projects he was working on for GLB. They got information about upcoming changes a couple days prior to the information being finalized and shared to all of GLB. The information gained really wasn't anything that was going to give them any gain on the general population as the offseason is the offseason. I still have quotes from all info gained from it if you want to refute me on it.

What they applied from that and what they would apply from the other quote TK gave of mine are 2 highly different things. One is a distinct advantage based on money. The other is a nice gesture made to those giving a lot of money.

I am not sure about the preferential forum treatment to those with money though. The moderators have never been let in on that secret and dpride has certainly been banned a number of times. Maybe a perma thing? I don't know.
 
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All of that is true and appreciated... but once shit hit the fan it has been nothing but damage control and refusal to respond respectfully.

I should have said DD instead of GLB. The Q&A sessions and flex promotions have proven that Bort definitely cares.
 
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Originally posted by Darktanian
Really?

If that was the case, you wouldn't get any free flex on occasions during the year. They would give out flex for winning an event like League survivor. They wouldn't spend thousands on mods, and admins, and support hours etc...

Remember, they are under no obligation to do any of the free flex stuff, or whatever they choose to give away. It's a business, and like a business, they offer a product. If you like said product, you continue using said product.

When they give out free flex, and dots, I'm thankful. I don't see it as might right to have those things...and neither should you. The last thing I feel here is that I'm just treated like a $$$ sign.


Every one of your posts is even more clueless than the last.


 
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Originally posted by bhall43
They got information about upcoming changes a couple days prior to the information being finalized and shared to all of GLB. The information gained really wasn't anything that was going to give them any gain on the general population as the offseason is the offseason. I still have quotes from all info gained from it if you want to refute me on it.



What did they do with the information on the upcoming changes to the sim? You don't scrim in the offseason? I don't have the quotes from the forum. I have no idea what information was and wasn't shared. Only going on what you said was discussed, upcoming changes in the sim. Which is what pretty much every team spent pretty much every offseason/preseason trying to develop and implement various plans around.
Edited by threadkiller on Oct 20, 2013 15:41:28
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
I am not sure about the preferential forum treatment to those with money though. The moderators have never been let in on that secret and dpride has certainly been banned a number of times. Maybe a perma thing? I don't know.


lol at thinking dpride wouldn't have been perma game banned years ago if he didn't spend so much money.

that's even before you look at the +10 thing.
Edited by Gart888 on Oct 20, 2013 15:40:11
 
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Originally posted by D-line skidmarks
First minor admission from staff. Great ! You're doing good, keep it up! Now come clean with the rest of it! See that's not so hard is it?


no no, thats the part where catch lied.

GLB had the forum, but catch did it alone!
 
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Originally posted by Gart888
lol at thinking dpride wouldn't have been perma game banned years ago if he didn't spend so much money.

that's not even before you look at the +10 thing.


That was the pink elephant in the room I didn't mention. lol

 
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Originally posted by Gart888
lol at thinking dpride wouldn't have been perma game banned years ago if he didn't spend so much money.

that's not even before you look at the +10 thing.


ya that's why i said maybe a perma thing. But he certainly was banned many times from the forums.
 
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Originally posted by hokegoalie
no no, thats the part where catch lied.

GLB had the forum, but catch did it alone!


all the more need for the admin to come out and state what, why, way ahead.... instead of the BS that's been going on for the past few days...
 
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Originally posted by D-line skidmarks
all the more need for the admin to come out and state what, why, way ahead.... instead of the BS that's been going on for the past few days...


they gotta think of it first...
 
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well if there was a test server forum that peeps were in outside of the testers then yeah i think they migh,t even if very small, had an advantage as to what was working/not working in the sim.
 
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Originally posted by Darktanian
Really?

If that was the case, you wouldn't get any free flex on occasions during the year. They would give out flex for winning an event like League survivor. They wouldn't spend thousands on mods, and admins, and support hours etc...

Remember, they are under no obligation to do any of the free flex stuff, or whatever they choose to give away. It's a business, and like a business, they offer a product. If you like said product, you continue using said product.

When they give out free flex, and dots, I'm thankful. I don't see it as might right to have those things...and neither should you. The last thing I feel here is that I'm just treated like a $$$ sign.



When was the last time they gave out free flex (note: Not RP) that wasn't for a contest? Shall we go back and look?

IF you count bonuses from flex sales, Nov 2011, almost 2 years ago. If not, July 4th, 2011, but those were RP. To get actual, recyclable Flex from a holiday/handout you've got to go all the way back to the 10K FLEX GIVEAWAY that was held in Sept of 2010, OVER 3 YEARS AGO!

Big difference as RP is not recyclable. Research before you speak. Otherwise you just look like another idiotic forum troll.


 
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Originally posted by EllisBell
I feel the need to point out that the above referenced "private forum" by a former employee was never sanctioned by GLB and was never posted in by any admin except for said former employee.


Submitted without further comment apparently?
 
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Originally posted by threadkiller

What did they do with the information on the upcoming changes to the sim? You don't scrim in the offseason? I don't have the quotes from the forum. I have no idea what information was and wasn't shared. Only going on what you said was discussed, upcoming changes in the sim. Which is what pretty much every team spent pretty much every offseason/preseason trying to develop and implement various plans around.


The information wasn't finalized stuff. It was just things Catch planned to send to Bort to be looked over in the offseason. The finalized stuff came out for everyone. What did those people do with that information? They waited until everything was concrete like everyone else and then made plans from there. They couldn't test those changes as they had to be uploaded to the live server for them to be able to and when those things hit the server (for example: the 4 new oline VA's) everyone was given a full reset to test them as much as possible in the preseason.
 
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Originally posted by threadkiller

What did they do with the information on the upcoming changes to the sim? You don't scrim in the offseason? I don't have the quotes from the forum. I have no idea what information was and wasn't shared. Only going on what you said was discussed, upcoming changes in the sim. Which is what pretty much every team spent pretty much every offseason/preseason trying to develop and implement various plans around.


More of a suggestion forum and not supa secret info.
 
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