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bhall43
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Originally posted by slashxtreme
Which only one person could have deleted? That's not a conspiracy if that's what is being intimated. And nothing DD can really control.


Well perfectly understandable why those were deleted. But those threads weren't relevant to the post I made it was just Dub being Dub.
 
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I miss the innocence of Piemaster's thread...
 
Dub J
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Originally posted by bhall43
Your smack talk is getting stale.


It's not smack talk.

Tell me again why the lolmodsearch was pushed back? It wasn't to wait for a certain user (who they had pegged for a mod spot) to sign on after he had an "issue", was it? Now who was the other user already preordained before he fucked himself over in the forums? The mod search wasn't just a big sham to get two people into mod positions that had no business being mods, was it?

Nah, couldn't be.

That's why I totally don't believe a certain former user when he revealed the true criteria for becoming a tester for GLB2.

And if you want to do a bit of searching in the forums you will find that I had no desire to be either. So I'm going to kill your stupid, predictable come-back before you post it. Just a user tired of all the bullshit.



 
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Originally posted by Dub J
It's not smack talk.


OK
 
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Lol at the FFA crowd showing up here to pretend they're mad.

Hey, they're talking about farts in FFA....better go check it out, before you miss the chance to discuss the subject!.
 
SikoraP13 DTD
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Originally posted by Darktanian
Do you want a free phone and govt cheese to go with that whine?

The sad fact is this...

It started off about an employee getting fired...that was easily explained to where the majority of ragers understood. Then it moved to an admin that still had a personal account, and that was easily explained to where the majority of ragers understood.

Not being satisfactory enough, the ragers came up with the notion that DD was being condescending, and abusive.

Well, there was nothing condescending or abusive that he did. Yet, he went on to say that he was sorry if he offended anyone, or something to that effect, yet none of the ragers want to accept that. They are in a primitive mob mentality, like irrational beasts. Incapable of reason.

BUT! , we now have a poster with a solution to the whole irrational drama. It's give them free stuff!

Why, because now the stupidity has arisen that there are shady backdoor deals going on, and that to appease the mob, they should reward everyone with a free player or two.

Yup, that's govt education at it's finest. It's called trump up charges, then shake down the victim.

Great job idiots!


By no means is it a solution to the problem, but it's a means to quell the anger and frustration that a lot of these people are feeling. And Catch has said and posted pictures of both a high rollers forum where the heavy flex spenders had direct contact to admins without having to go to support as well as acknowledging that the top spenders were given additional flex point bonuses that had to be approved by none other than DD himself (whether that's true or not hasn't been addressed by GLB or proven one way or the other). Not stupidity, there were allegedly backdoor deals going on, GLB hasn't addressed said accusation.

I'm not advocating this from a position of wanting free shit. I want things to return to normal as quickly as possible. You appease the mob and it will go away, and you might save face in the process.
 
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We still talking about the fighting game?
 
Dub J
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Originally posted by SikoraP13 DTD
By no means is it a solution to the problem, but it's a means to quell the anger and frustration that a lot of these people are feeling. And Catch has said and posted pictures of both a high rollers forum where the heavy flex spenders had direct contact to admins without having to go to support as well as acknowledging that the top spenders were given additional flex point bonuses that had to be approved by none other than DD himself (whether that's true or not hasn't been addressed by GLB or proven one way or the other). Not stupidity, there were allegedly backdoor deals going on, GLB hasn't addressed said accusation.

I'm not advocating this from a position of wanting free shit. I want things to return to normal as quickly as possible. You appease the mob and it will go away, and you might save face in the process.


Just ignore him. He outed himself as a shit troll when he posted that FFA nonsense.

 
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Originally posted by SikoraP13 DTD
Right. I maintain the only way this will get resolved is for bort to show up, field questions, and have an honest and open discussion with the userbase about what happened, why it happened, and where GLB is going from here. He needs to address the GLB people and probably reward everyone with a free player or two for the shady, backroom, give the high rollers special treatment behavior that's been brought to light.

DD has pissed a lot of people in this thread off, and has lost credibility with a lot of people, especially those who believe what Catch had to say (and given that there hasn't been any info given otherwise to contradict his account, it's hard not to). He's failed to give hard answers and has been what can easily be interpreted as dismissive and deflective. The other admins, being bort and DD's friends and family, have likely lost a lot of favor in the community as well.

Bort's the only one left, imo, who's really got any standing left in the eyes of a lot of the people here. The creator of dotball. He's the godfather. You shut your whore mouth when Bort is talking.

Bort's pretty much the only person who can salvage this PR nightmare, imo, because he has that respect and that power.


 
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Originally posted by SikoraP13 DTD
By no means is it a solution to the problem, but it's a means to quell the anger and frustration that a lot of these people are feeling. And Catch has said and posted pictures of both a high rollers forum where the heavy flex spenders had direct contact to admins without having to go to support as well as acknowledging that the top spenders were given additional flex point bonuses that had to be approved by none other than DD himself (whether that's true or not hasn't been addressed by GLB or proven one way or the other). Not stupidity, there were allegedly backdoor deals going on, GLB hasn't addressed said accusation.

I'm not advocating this from a position of wanting free shit. I want things to return to normal as quickly as possible. You appease the mob and it will go away, and you might save face in the process.


The direct contact being to Catch22. Not Bort. And I will repost this as I said it in another forum too.

Originally posted by bhall43
fwiw they did receive some info a little faster than the rest of the community. Nothing substantial or anything but there are some things in which Catch would put together a list of things for Bort for the next season and that list would pass by a couple of those private forums (High Roller, Mike Rogers forum) and there would be some talk about the list. So they did receive "information" before people but it wasn't anything that really could have given them any sort of head start on the rest of the userbase.

High Roller Forum: A place in which 30 or so of the bigger flex spenders of the game (not all of them mind you, because I know dpride and what not wasn't in there) were brought together to discuss what they would like to see out of the game. They got to know what Catch was working on to present to Bort. They got to discuss those things and possibly sway Catch's mind if there were some good ideas. (Remember that everything still had to go through Bort at the end of the day). Basically it was sort of a suggestion thread from a group of guys who were big spenders on the game.

Mike Rogers forum: In this forum it was a group of guys brought in by Mike (former tester RIP ) of people in which he thought provided really good insight on the game. It was essentially a place where a group of maybe 15 or so of us came together to talk about what could be better about the sim. It was a more direct line to what was going on in the test server and what are thoughts were about the games on the test server. For those of you in the GLB2 testing, it was pretty much like that without doing the actual testing on the games.

The High Roller forum has been deleted btw. Though all of the incriminating stuff from it has been posted in places. Like I said...nothing substantial though.



As far as the bonus's go. I was in the high roller forum and never received any bonus's on it. So I imagine that is guys dropping thousands on a single purchase. Which quite frankly I am fine with them getting some bonus flex or a free shirt or whatever for it.
 
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Originally posted by SikoraP13 DTD
By no means is it a solution to the problem, but it's a means to quell the anger and frustration that a lot of these people are feeling. And Catch has said and posted pictures of both a high rollers forum where the heavy flex spenders had direct contact to admins without having to go to support as well as acknowledging that the top spenders were given additional flex point bonuses that had to be approved by none other than DD himself (whether that's true or not hasn't been addressed by GLB or proven one way or the other). Not stupidity, there were allegedly backdoor deals going on, GLB hasn't addressed said accusation.

I'm not advocating this from a position of wanting free shit. I want things to return to normal as quickly as possible. You appease the mob and it will go away, and you might save face in the process.


Senator Reid, is that you? You could surely be a politician. Your fuzzy logic makes sense only to those with no sense.

In reality, it's a classic shakedown scenario. Make accusations, then offer a price to be paid to make it go away. Unfortunately, doing what you suggest would be considered by a court of law as an admission of guilt. Especially since it's possible court actions might be taken over the main issue of this all. Something you all totally forget.

Why would you, if you were in GLB's position, give the opposition the tools necessary to hamstring your case?

GLB gave an official statement about the subject. A website appeared which claims there was such and such going on. Now if I was in Catch's shoes...wouldn't it be brilliant to throw out some things that would cause emotions to flair, and possibly some things would be said in response that I could use to help solidify my case?

There's a lot more to it than just answering your questions in a forum. There are legal ramifications that could cost a shit ton of money if not handled properly.

So while you think DD was being condescending, and abusive...which he was not...he did a very good job not playing into any legal ramifications that could have ensued.

Now STFU, and get over it.
 
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Let me share a parable with y'all... not an analogy, since it doesn't properly apply, but it might give everyone here something to think about.

A customer checks into a brand-name chain hotel and goes up to his assigned room... and finds that the room hasn't been cleaned at all from the previous guest. Not only is it filthy, it actually smells nasty.

Legitimate problem, correct? Certainly understandable if the customer gets a little upset. But it's a problem that can easily be corrected by the Front Desk: assign the guest to another room, double-check that it's a clean one, and give the guest a discount on their room rate for the bad experience.

But this guest has a short temper, and he works himself up into an incredible rage as he schleps all his stuff back down the hall, down the elevator, and back to the Front Desk, where he unleashes an incredible torrent of profanities and insults at the Front Desk clerk for his incompetence in sending him to a dirty room. And instead of offering a new room and a discount, the Front Desk clerk responds by telling the guest he can go fuck himself and find another hotel.

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See the problem?

The guest has inconvenienced himself even more by pissing off the only person who can help him, and the guest now has to waste time and gas finding another place to stay.

But more importantly, the Front Desk clerk has probably cost himself his job and has also cost both his hotel and his hotel brand all of that angry guest's future revenue because he couldn't understand a basic fact:

Just because a customer is over-reacting to a problem, that doesn't mean the problem itself should be ignored.

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I should PM this to DD. I really should.
 
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I didn't spend thousands on this game but I want to be treated the same damnit.
 
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This is class warfare.
 
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Originally posted by Homage
I didn't spend thousands on this game but I want to be treated the same damnit.


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