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MoJames
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Ok this is just getting ridiculous.

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Big Ten officials met today to discuss how the conference could and should accommodate both Texas and ND. In short, the conference believes that the membership of each school can be accomplished largely within the context of the terms presented. Some other interesting developments have taken place in the last few days.

Over the weekend, a new group of Texas stakeholders made a very aggressive push to the Big Ten conference to invite UT to the conference in the short term. The scenario proposed would involve the start of athletic competition in the conference by UT as early as 2012. This group did include official representatives of the university, along with other influential boosters. In response, the conference expressed the need to speak with only one consistent, designated group of UT representatives.

Separately, the more familiar UT representatives, who have conducted conversations with the Big Ten in the past, reaffirmed the approach that Texas should not initiate the breakup of the Big XII conference in order to join the Big Ten for political considerations. These representatives once again stated to conference officials that membership in the Big Ten conference (in accord with the terms presented last week) remains Texas' preferred conference affiliation option. The Big Ten also strongly impressed upon this group of UT representatives the need for university representatives to conduct conversations with the conference in one unified voice.

However, in discussions related to the terms presented, the Big Ten responded favorably. The Big Ten is preliminarily in agreement, particularly with the scheduling considerations and the "approximate" target date of 2014 for affiliation. The conference also strongly affirmed that it will not allow third parties, especially third party television networks not controlled by the conference or the universities, to dictate or strongly influence the terms of membership in the conference for either school. The conference expressed its displeasure with the manipulative reporting disseminated by certain television networks.

Conference officials believe that significant potential synergies exist between the Longhorn Network and the Big Ten Network. The officials expressed the belief that all of the expanded conference's stakeholders can achieve this potential with greatly reduced third party network involvement. Each network would gain significant opportunities to independently grow and expand together, under the control of the Big Ten Conference and its expanded institutional membership (and specifically NOT through control delegated to third party television networks). The super network that would result from this affiliation could dictate the terms of viewership in a way that ultimately benefits the mission of the expanded conference and its schools, along with their supporters. The Big Ten will remain open to any arrangement, including the formation of regionalized "Big Ten Networks," that ultimately achieve this goal.

Big Ten officials initiated conversations with Notre Dame stakeholders to keep them apprised of the discussions with both groups of Texas representatives.

Also over the weekend, a group of representatives from the University of Oklahoma again contacted the Big Ten regarding the potential for their own membership in the conference, in what was characterized as a "last ditch effort." The Big Ten once again respectfully informed that group that the Council of Presidents and Chancellors has already ruled out the addition of either Oklahoma school, primarily over concerns related to academic fit within the conference.


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A contingent of University of Texas officials met with Oklahoma officials on Sunday afternoon, according to multiple sources, and the meeting didn't get very far.

According to sources, Texas wanted to talk about ways to solidify the Big 12, and OU officials didn't even want to discuss the Big 12. In the eyes of the OU board of regents, the Big 12 is dead, sources said.

"The conversation never even got to the Longhorn Network," one source close to the situation said. "It wasn't about UT's network or OU's network, it was about the OU board's concern for the instability in the Big 12 and how realignment can't happen every year."

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to withdraw from the Big 12 and apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source close to OU's administration said.
 
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Oklahoma Sooners will be Nat'l Champions!


Boomer Sooner!


Choklahoma wont win...it really doesnt matter who they play against.
 
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That is what doesn't make sense to me about Baylor. A&M is gone no matter what, 99.9% for sure to the SEC, but someone will take us in any case. If that happens, the Big XII can still survive if the sips and OU stay and they bring in a team or 3. Yet Starr threatens us and the SEC instead of going after OU and the PAC-12, which would really bring the end of the conference if they left as well.
 
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Originally posted by RayRay99
That is what doesn't make sense to me about Baylor. A&M is gone no matter what, 99.9% for sure to the SEC, but someone will take us in any case. If that happens, the Big XII can still survive if the sips and OU stay and they bring in a team or 3. Yet Starr threatens us and the SEC instead of going after OU and the PAC-12, which would really bring the end of the conference if they left as well.


You don't think very broadly, do you? Must be that aggie education. Threatening OU would create more tension in a relationship that isn't entirely finished. Why do something to hurt the relationship when it might still be salvaged? Instead, he can threaten aggie, which is a relationship that is already done, and put OU on notice of what might happen should they decide to leave.
 
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Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
You don't think very broadly, do you? Must be that aggie education. Threatening OU would create more tension in a relationship that isn't entirely finished. Why do something to hurt the relationship when it might still be salvaged? Instead, he can threaten aggie, which is a relationship that is already done, and put OU on notice of what might happen should they decide to leave.


With the exception of the initial insult, I agree with this. They're trying to discourage others from leaving. It seems like a smarter move would have been to market yourself to the Big East or someone else. But maybe they realize no one wants their miserable school and this is the only option.
 
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Originally posted by Aggie_Outlaw
With the exception of the initial insult, I agree with this. They're trying to discourage others from leaving. It seems like a smarter move would have been to market yourself to the Big East or someone else. But maybe they realize no one wants their miserable school and this is the only option.


I will laugh my ass off if Baylor some how goes to the SEC with aggy.
 
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Suing us accomplishes nothing. If OU leaves the league implodes and there isn't anything Baylor can do about it, so the threat of a suit is moot. Suing us is frivolous as we do not have a contract with Baylor, we have a contract with the league, and there are provisions in place if a team wishes to leave the conference, which we will meet as per our obligations.
 
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If the B12 falls, then Baylor would love to get into C-USA, Since they used politics to knock Houston out of a chance to get into the B12, Houston will make sure they get their payback and cock block them in C-USA. That leaves the MWC, but they just lost three teams of importance and added a TV set dead Boise State. Baylor's went from a D1 major conference to a crappy mid major conference.

Ann "Not without my Baylor!" Richards bought Baylor 15 years to make Baylor matter in football and they failed miserably. They should only being suing themselves for being pathetic. I wouldn't be surprised that UT, A&M, and OU/OSU will all be served papers from Waco if the B12 disappears.

On a side note, just imagine if TCU stayed in the MWC or the B12 crumbled last year, TCU would have kept them outta the MWC because Baylor bumped them out of a chance in the B12 15 years ago. Ahh Baylor, get back in the shallow end of the pool already.
 
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Originally posted by MoJames
Originally posted by Aggie_Outlaw

With the exception of the initial insult, I agree with this. They're trying to discourage others from leaving. It seems like a smarter move would have been to market yourself to the Big East or someone else. But maybe they realize no one wants their miserable school and this is the only option.


I will laugh my ass off if Baylor some how goes to the SEC with aggy.


I'll lmao if Texas ends up in the MAC. I'd say the likelyhood is about the same.
 
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Originally posted by Aggie_Outlaw
I'll lmao if Texas ends up in the MAC. I'd say the likelyhood is about the same.


Then you are misinformed.
 
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Originally posted by MoJames
Then you are misinformed.


The odds are around 0% for either scenario, so I would say he is right.
 
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Originally posted by MoJames
Then you are misinformed.


 
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Originally posted by RayRay99
The odds are around 0% for either scenario, so I would say he is right.


So if Texas joins the ACC, who will the SEC go after to fill up to 16 teams?
 
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Originally posted by MoJames
So if Texas joins the ACC, who will the SEC go after to fill up to 16 teams?


I honestly believe Chip was ordered to write that piece to see if UT boosters would be ok with that. You have to admit that it is kinda funny they have to fly over the entire SEC to go play their games.

I think West Virginia is an easy choice for obvious reasons. I would say Mizzou becomes hot property instantly if UT leaves and the B12 collapses. I find it hard to believe that the B1G has been quite staunch in not expanding, and if this holds true, the SEC would love to add that market. Pitt will never get into the B1G, so it will be interesting to see if the ACC or SEC go after them. Texas politics could force the hand of the SEC and depending how desperate they (the SEC) are to get into the Texas market, they may have to take TTech, Baylor, TCU, or Houston, but I doubt it. You also have Kansas floating around and I just don't know how it would truly work for them to join the P12 being two time zones away.
 
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