Warrior General Games

Originally posted by jrry32
Yes, Kurieg was right on that...the point I was making is that both sides agreed to it whether or not Gart told ksychic what he planned to do.
Right, but that kinda makes it not collusion.

Like not at all.

Originally posted by jrry32
No but Haliblack and BFM are 2 separate teams. I am saying that BFM and Haliblack colluded because ksychic agreed to let Gart alter the AI in any way he wanted to by giving him control...thus allowing him to do this. Whether or not this was what he wanted, ksychic agreed to it when he gave Gart the controls to the AI and did not take them away for the Haliblack game. He condoned his actions by giving him control of the AI thus agreements were made from both sides.

No, that's not collusion. If you think that's sufficient for collusion, there's no help for you tbh.

nm, not going to bother

The not telling part.

Originally posted by Gart888
Originally posted by Drago

Originally posted by TrevJo


So which loltrophies are affected?

Alpha QB TD leader, WR TD/Yds leader, and Sacks leader?

P.S. TD passes in games not against BFM:
JR - 24 (includes 2 vs Lincoln)
DP - 27 (includes 6 in probable collusion game vs Lincoln)

I guess there are more if you consider beyond 1st place loltrophies.
Oh yeah and Zeta due to Tasmania, assuming Bort does this based on blowout games in some way.

You're a goddamn fucking idiot if you think MEM vs. Lincoln was collusion.

In a three game stretch we put up 41, 44, and 50. So the 50 game was collusion? Figure it out you ignorant fucks.

Wait, you're arguing that putting up more points against a much better team makes it less likely to be collusion? sol'd.

We beat three teams in a row for pretty similar offensive scores. If you're too stupid to know how to connect the dots and claim there was some sort of collusion there I'd love to see any evidence. The 80 yard TD bomb where the WR broke his first tackle of the year? COLLUSION DAMMIT, THAT CORNER HAD TO BE ON FORCE FUMBLES FOR TACKLING!?1?!!!1111!

Originally posted by Drago
We beat three teams in a row for pretty similar offensive scores.

It could have been luck.

Just sayin'.

Originally posted by Darth Asheme
Originally posted by Drago

You're a goddamn fucking idiot if you think MEM vs. Lincoln was collusion.

In a three game stretch we put up 41, 44, and 50. So the 50 game was collusion? Figure it out you ignorant fucks.
Well, if the teams are entities, then it's possible they entered into an agreement entirely on their own. So, yes, according to your use of the word collusion (as has been expanded by jrry), you totally were involved in colludaments.

Sorry, we don't enter into agreements with other teams where we agree to change our tactics to "make a mockery of the game."

Originally posted by Gart888
Originally posted by jrry32

Originally posted by kurieg


Originally posted by jrry32



Teams are entities in dotball.

Who do you think is responsible?

Are you really going to attempt to say that the agents should be held responsible?

The dots?

What's the entity you're trying to make a really terrible argument about?

No but Haliblack and BFM are 2 separate teams. I am saying that BFM and Haliblack colluded because ksychic agreed to let Gart alter the AI in any way he wanted to by giving him control...thus allowing him to do this. Whether or not this was what he wanted, ksychic agreed to it when he gave Gart the controls to the AI and did not take them away for the Haliblack game. He condoned his actions by giving him control of the AI thus agreements were made from both sides.

But bort gave me the power to change hali's AI, and gave ksychic the power to give me teh power to change BFMs AI. So this was clearly Bort-Bort collusion. amirite?

Sort of, Bort allowed you to do it so he is at fault in the matter.

Originally posted by jrry32
Yes, Kurieg was right on that...the point I was making is that both sides agreed to it whether or not Gart told ksychic what he planned to do.

No, they didn't agree to it. You cannot possibly claim that ksychic agreed beforehand to this unless you have some evidence. You're not entitled to convict someone for not knowing what the other person was up to unless you want to say they SHOULD have known. However, in this case, you're essentially going after an owner for not interfering with his coordinator or even really knowing what he was doing.

You might call that incompetence, but it's not collusion.

Originally posted by joshuashipley21
Wouldnt the coordinators/owners be classified as entities in this specific situation?

which would make the point its not collusion

Originally posted by Gart888
Originally posted by Drago

Originally posted by Darth Asheme


Originally posted by jrry32




He used it right.
Then, pray tell, how does collusion work when only one person is involved?

Way to go Riddler.

Two teams were involved, owned by two different people. The fact that one of them turned a blind eye to what the other was going to do, "I knew he had something special planned" makes him guilty of it too.

Two teams.

He knew i had something special planned because he's not pants on head retarded, not because he had any sort of inside info.

Great, we agree. The fact remains he knew.

Originally posted by jrry32
Originally posted by Gart888

Originally posted by jrry32


Originally posted by kurieg



Originally posted by jrry32




Teams are entities in dotball.

Who do you think is responsible?

Are you really going to attempt to say that the agents should be held responsible?

The dots?

What's the entity you're trying to make a really terrible argument about?

No but Haliblack and BFM are 2 separate teams. I am saying that BFM and Haliblack colluded because ksychic agreed to let Gart alter the AI in any way he wanted to by giving him control...thus allowing him to do this. Whether or not this was what he wanted, ksychic agreed to it when he gave Gart the controls to the AI and did not take them away for the Haliblack game. He condoned his actions by giving him control of the AI thus agreements were made from both sides.

But bort gave me the power to change hali's AI, and gave ksychic the power to give me teh power to change BFMs AI. So this was clearly Bort-Bort collusion. amirite?

Sort of, Bort allowed you to do it so he is at fault in the matter.

wow far fetched tbh

Originally posted by Drago
Sorry, we don't enter into agreements with other teams where we agree to change our tactics to "make a mockery of the game."
Um, really?

I was. Uh, nevermind.

Originally posted by jrry32
Sort of, Bort allowed you to do it so he is at fault in the matter.

Bort might be at fault for incompetence/negligence, but not collusion.

Originally posted by Drago
Originally posted by Gart888

Originally posted by Drago


Originally posted by Darth Asheme



Originally posted by jrry32





He used it right.
Then, pray tell, how does collusion work when only one person is involved?

Way to go Riddler.

Two teams were involved, owned by two different people. The fact that one of them turned a blind eye to what the other was going to do, "I knew he had something special planned" makes him guilty of it too.

Two teams.

He knew i had something special planned because he's not pants on head retarded, not because he had any sort of inside info.

Great, we agree. The fact remains he knew.

But in that case so did everyone in the league. Meaning it couldn't have been a secret agreement.