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Originally posted by Myd
Originally posted by hatchman

that was one of the first points I tried to make when he started this suggestion. but instead of him agreeing he came back with the notion that owning more teams would let him network more. or that was the way I took it from reading all of his babble.

Who exactly is he networking with? The team of his that I had a dot on a few seasons ago was a ghost town after people got tired of asking for what tactics he wanted set.

When was this and what team? Sorry about that.

I usually try to respond to active forums. But there were times I lost track of it. When they were just parking spots for farm builds for me and the guys in the network (I am in one, small though) I was a bad owner no doubt. Didnt do much. And the last couple of years have been some lean times for some stretches due to various family disasters (like the three months living at my Moms nursing her with out much PC time). And of course I have had some guys say they would coach a team and the not do it.

But if the team seems dead I do tend to give up on the forums.

This is why I asked Bort to put a "new thread" button on the team pages and on the home page, so I wouldnt lose track like that.

I think you -1'd it. Luddite.

Originally posted by Dub J
You should just go ahead and +1 my suggestion yello and forget all this silliness.

I thought I did? Lemme go see what you have new.

you basically just proved a huge point against owning more teams yello1. you admitted that you had problems keeping the current teams you have active. hell if that is a problem now how is that going to improve with you owning even more crappy teams?

Originally posted by yello1
Once again dude, I hit reply. It stacks or it doesnt.

But thanks for calling me a liar you POS.



WOW..now there you go
For one that carries the cross and promotes miracles and all that and give the impression of christian person.

Now once again your proved another one my points ..that you are a self righteous hypocrite

lets look at this :
I never called you a liar. I just stated what happens when you hit the post button without running any scripts on GM(you could be doing this and causing the pyramid) Or messing with quote manually(which i did not say you did.

Now since you can not comprehend what you are reading I did not call you a liar...I did call you a self righteous hypocrite and
(calling me a POS is not very christian which you try to portray yourself as(which defines the hypocrite part)
Then I called you simple one track minded person in which you answer to me proves that.

I was trying to say what happens when i hit the quote button w/o any GM (grease monkey in case you do not understand what GM is for) scripts or messing with the quote code (as you called it) manually . I did not call you a liar
So once again you read something and did not fully comprehend what you read and . Hence the part where I called a simple one track minded person...which you proved me right

you are really to easy

Originally posted by ron2288
Originally posted by yello1

Once again dude, I hit reply. It stacks or it doesnt.

But thanks for calling me a liar you POS.



WOW..now there you go
For one that carries the cross and promotes miracles and all that and give the impression of christian person.

Now once again your proved another one my points ..that you are a self righteous hypocrite

lets look at this :
I never called you a liar. I just stated what happens when you hit the post button without running any scripts on GM(you could be doing this and causing the pyramid) Or messing with quote manually(which i did not say you did.

Now since you can not comprehend what you are reading I did not call you a liar...I did call you a self righteous hypocrite and
(calling me a POS is not very christian which you try to portray yourself as(which defines the hypocrite part)
Then I called you simple one track minded person in which you answer to me proves that.

I was trying to say what happens when i hit the quote button w/o any GM (grease monkey in case you do not understand what GM is for) scripts or messing with the quote code (as you called it) manually . I did not call you a liar
So once again you read something and did not fully comprehend what you read and . Hence the part where I called a simple one track minded person...which you proved me right

you are really to easy



Christian doesnt mean I need to tolerate someone saying I am lying (or okay maybe it should but hey no ones perfect but the man himself). And I told you I did not know how to make the perpetual quotes, and it sure seemed to me like you were trying to suggest I was. Someone calling me a liar is a huge affront to me. if I got inappropriately bent, if I misread you as you say I did, then I am very sorry indeed.

I did jump the gun I guess. But as to your point I do not have GM running here. Explorer only on this machine. And until my PC gets replaced at work I wont have it there either. Not gumming up the borrowed one with my personal crap.

Anyway, sorry about that. But your next post I believe was not exactly complimentary (imbecile or something like that was bandied about I believe) so I won't exactly feel horrible about it, but I am embarrassed if that makes you feel better.

Anyway, its a New Year coming so I am going to just let bygones be bygones and stop tossing flames back and forth in here. If I can resist the temptation anyway.

Hope you all enjoy your New Years Eve. Drive Safe.

Originally posted by hatchman
you basically just proved a huge point against owning more teams yello1. you admitted that you had problems keeping the current teams you have active. hell if that is a problem now how is that going to improve with you owning even more crappy teams?

No you misread me, I said that was true in the past. And it wasnt a problem doing it, it was a choice at first. Just built farm teams. Said they were in the forums, asked for GMs to run em, etc. Later on I did have issues but if planning for agents Moms needing a nurse maid for 90 days is how we design the game we are doing it wrong. Family emergency's screw all gamers and plans.

As it is now I can manage the ones I choose to manage. But that does include a liberal useage of GMs to OC etc. But thats a part of the game too. If I bought three more teams I would likely do it with them too. Well all but one. I have been too liberal with handing those out. I actually do not full run any of my teams. I am feeling left out.

Anyway, enjoy your festivities. I will be on tomorrow but I wont be flaming. At best a mild discussion!

Originally posted by yello1
Originally posted by hatchman

you basically just proved a huge point against owning more teams yello1. you admitted that you had problems keeping the current teams you have active. hell if that is a problem now how is that going to improve with you owning even more crappy teams?

No you misread me, I said that was true in the past. And it wasnt a problem doing it, it was a choice at first. Just built farm teams. Said they were in the forums, asked for GMs to run em, etc. Later on I did have issues but if planning for agents Moms needing a nurse maid for 90 days is how we design the game we are doing it wrong. Family emergency's screw all gamers and plans.

As it is now I can manage the ones I choose to manage. But that does include a liberal useage of GMs to OC etc. But thats a part of the game too. If I bought three more teams I would likely do it with them too. Well all but one. I have been too liberal with handing those out. I actually do not full run any of my teams. I am feeling left out.

Anyway, enjoy your festivities. I will be on tomorrow but I wont be flaming. At best a mild discussion!

I am very sorry for your mother's illness. Truly hope she is up and about as soon as possible. I don't worship at any altars but I do have empathy for anyone who has terrible things going on in their lives.

Having said that, I'd like to point out that as much as I would like for no one on the site to ever have personal issues pop up in their lives and for everyone who is associated with GLB have perfect lives that simply is not the case whether it be bad luck, happenstance or the constant meddling of a crazed God with an inferiority complex (see Exodus 20:3).

Having 9 teams at a time just increases the likelihood of a real life emergency taking an owner away from multiple teams at a time which in turn leads to a bad experience for up to 495 individual agents. It is bad enough when one agent goes inactive and owns a team of 55 different dots, when you expand that number across 9 teams it is devastating to the game you purport to love. A single inactive user ruining that many experiences is far more damaging than a few CPU teams.

I highly doubt this will have any impact on you since you seem to be self-absorbed to a degree that will never allow you to understand simple truths that fly in the face of your very flawed logic but I will still put it out there for you in hopes that maybe it hits the small part of your ego that isn't threatened by opinions that aren't yours.

Seriously though, hope your mom is okay. Despite whatever delusions of grandeur you are laboring under no one should have to see the people whom they love in pain, I hope everything works out for both you and your mom.

I want to express that I didn't miss read you at all yello1. I know what you posted and I understood what you said. I have a decent education and I have a good understanding of the english language. I am also not illiterate so I can read and understand written words. with that said I am truly sorry for your mothers illness that type of stuff happens to alot of agents on the site. and even worse stuff as well. personally I have laid flat on my back in the hospital for almost a month. yet I logged onto the site each day and did what I had to do for my teams. yes I resigned the OC duties and I asked a very good friend to help take care of the teams while I was laid up. But I was able to atleast sign on for 15 to 20 minutes each day. I had a very active team forum. and even with my activity level down the forum didn't suffer.

basically I read what you post and I always get the same things.

1.) someone posts a disagreement to your suggestion. you then either tell them they misread you or if their logic is sound and their argument has enough legs to stand on. you will try to add to your suggestion to make it sound a little different. or the classic yello1 you will come across like you are taking it personal that someone doesn't agree with your infinite knowledge and start calling people names like Nazi or Luddite or whatever word you have heard or read that day. You preach about how you are all about the game. and how your motives are strictly for the users of GLB. yet then you make a post showing all the stuff that has been implemented that you posted in the threads. those threads weren't all started by you basically you made a post or 2 in them and agreed with the OP. yet you attempted to take credit for it. seriously Yello1 anyone can say they helped get a idea implemented simply by your logic of well I posted in the thread.

I liked the old waiting list because there was more people wanting a team then teams available.

made it like Christmas morning when the team sales processed.

-1

This is the thread that keeps on giving!

Originally posted by beenlurken
This is the thread that keeps on giving!

thanks for your contribution it is appreciated

Originally posted by hatchman
I want to express that I didn't miss read you at all yello1. I know what you posted and I understood what you said. I have a decent education and I have a good understanding of the english language. I am also not illiterate so I can read and understand written words. with that said I am truly sorry for your mothers illness that type of stuff happens to alot of agents on the site. and even worse stuff as well. personally I have laid flat on my back in the hospital for almost a month. yet I logged onto the site each day and did what I had to do for my teams. yes I resigned the OC duties and I asked a very good friend to help take care of the teams while I was laid up. But I was able to atleast sign on for 15 to 20 minutes each day. I had a very active team forum. and even with my activity level down the forum didn't suffer.

basically I read what you post and I always get the same things.

1.) someone posts a disagreement to your suggestion. you then either tell them they misread you or if their logic is sound and their argument has enough legs to stand on. you will try to add to your suggestion to make it sound a little different. or the classic yello1 you will come across like you are taking it personal that someone doesn't agree with your infinite knowledge and start calling people names like Nazi or Luddite or whatever word you have heard or read that day. You preach about how you are all about the game. and how your motives are strictly for the users of GLB. yet then you make a post showing all the stuff that has been implemented that you posted in the threads. those threads weren't all started by you basically you made a post or 2 in them and agreed with the OP. yet you attempted to take credit for it. seriously Yello1 anyone can say they helped get a idea implemented simply by your logic of well I posted in the thread.

Sorry to hear that and thanks.

Your dedication is duly noted, but I think its a little extreme to expect that of people.

Your wrong about started by me, I meant threads started by me.

Nazi and Luddite is humor. You do understand that as well, right?

And if you understand then how are you categorizing my adapting my suggestions to deal with valid objections as anything other than actually ACCEPTING criticism in a constructive way? If there is something wrong in an idea and its fixable you fix it, you dont capitulate like an emboldening surrender monkey.

Originally posted by merenoise
Originally posted by yello1

Originally posted by hatchman


you basically just proved a huge point against owning more teams yello1. you admitted that you had problems keeping the current teams you have active. hell if that is a problem now how is that going to improve with you owning even more crappy teams?

No you misread me, I said that was true in the past. And it wasnt a problem doing it, it was a choice at first. Just built farm teams. Said they were in the forums, asked for GMs to run em, etc. Later on I did have issues but if planning for agents Moms needing a nurse maid for 90 days is how we design the game we are doing it wrong. Family emergency's screw all gamers and plans.

As it is now I can manage the ones I choose to manage. But that does include a liberal useage of GMs to OC etc. But thats a part of the game too. If I bought three more teams I would likely do it with them too. Well all but one. I have been too liberal with handing those out. I actually do not full run any of my teams. I am feeling left out.

Anyway, enjoy your festivities. I will be on tomorrow but I wont be flaming. At best a mild discussion!

I am very sorry for your mother's illness. Truly hope she is up and about as soon as possible. I don't worship at any altars but I do have empathy for anyone who has terrible things going on in their lives.

Having said that, I'd like to point out that as much as I would like for no one on the site to ever have personal issues pop up in their lives and for everyone who is associated with GLB have perfect lives that simply is not the case whether it be bad luck, happenstance or the constant meddling of a crazed God with an inferiority complex (see Exodus 20:3).

Having 9 teams at a time just increases the likelihood of a real life emergency taking an owner away from multiple teams at a time which in turn leads to a bad experience for up to 495 individual agents. It is bad enough when one agent goes inactive and owns a team of 55 different dots, when you expand that number across 9 teams it is devastating to the game you purport to love. A single inactive user ruining that many experiences is far more damaging than a few CPU teams.

I highly doubt this will have any impact on you since you seem to be self-absorbed to a degree that will never allow you to understand simple truths that fly in the face of your very flawed logic but I will still put it out there for you in hopes that maybe it hits the small part of your ego that isn't threatened by opinions that aren't yours.

Seriously though, hope your mom is okay. Despite whatever delusions of grandeur you are laboring under no one should have to see the people whom they love in pain, I hope everything works out for both you and your mom.

Unfortunately Mom passed this year after I took care of her in my home for a couple of years, the 90 days thing was some time ago when she first was injured. I appreciate your well wishes. Thanks.

Good point about the one guy taking out nine teams thing. But thats actually a problem that takes care of itself. If nine teams go CPU in competitive leagues then having "megaowners" free to pick them up will increase the odds that they do indeed get picked up. That said, your point is a good reason why they need to improve the ability of GMs and players to buy their team if the owner goes CPU, and for the coaches to do as many owner like things as is possible.

But other than things like that I do not think you should plan for family disaster. Its a game, not the ICBM defense. But your point is a good one for having some sort of cap. As I believe I discussed in the OP a cap is good, it just needs to be sliding to allow demand to meet supply or something like that. Obviously one guy owning a third of the teams would be bad for your reasons and many more.

dude seriously you need to stop. you keep on making yourself look worse and worse.

lets look at this rationally for a second so try to stay with me.

1.) You suggested to raise the teams owned limit from what we have now. and you wanted this because there were so many CPU owned teams in Natty Pro.

these are the points people made that countered your suggestion and these were basically proven that they would work alot better than your suggestion.

1.) Not enough players to actually fill teams so adding more owners would further kill the player pool. thus killing the competition level even more.
2.) League contraction actually taking 32 teams out of Natty Pro and Regional Pro would essentially fix the problem of CPU owned teams and thus would not need your suggestion at all.
3.) Having 9 teams at a time just increases the likelihood of a real life emergency taking an owner away from multiple teams at a time which in turn leads to a bad experience for up to 495 individual agents. It is bad enough when one agent goes inactive and owns a team of 55 different dots, when you expand that number across 9 teams it is devastating to the game you purport to love. A single inactive user ruining that many experiences is far more damaging than a few CPU teams.
4.) Teams who have owners who have their attention spread too thin essentially become the equivalent of CPU teams..
Besides, it would just lead to the sale of or just the abandonment of teams that have losing records midseason.
5.) With 99 leagues there are potentially 174,240 roster spots. Is it your contention that there are 58,000 players, by your estimation 1/3 of all players, that half ass play the game? Really? Based on the players that I see rostered when I scout, the average inactives I see are about 5 or 6. That would put that number closer to 10% which would push the total player population closer to 125k-130k, 45,000-50,000 players off from filling every team that exists now.
Bort could easily contract 20% of all teams in the game, go down to 80 total leagues, and still have homes for every human owned dot. That would still accommodate 154,000 players, more than the player estimates.

and these are just a few key points that showed the flaws in your reasoning.

Originally posted by hatchman
thanks for your contribution it is appreciated

Whatever it takes to get a one of yello's ridiculous suggestions locked... as much as I enjoy someone else making him out to be the fool that he is and watching him self-destruct it is pointless to argue with him. He is a laughingstock of GLB and no matter how many of us point it out to him (while no one supports him) it will never register in his simple/immature mind.

That said if you can tolerate arguing with someone who is clearly insane (hell I have with him for too long) then by all means keep it up as it is quite entertaining sitting back watching someone else call him out on his bullshit!