Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Sellars
Guess what guys, Einer has more groundbreaking knowledge for all of u. His DOTs are soo good they dnt need AEQ. In fact they are the only dots on GLB to pump SPs with BTs and STILL come out terrible

Ok Sellars first... it is Einar, not Einer. It is kinda hard to insult someones intelligence when you cannot spell a name that is right in front of you on the screen. It makes you look like a total idiot.

Second, as I have shown time and again, my players are not terrible. They are as good as yours at the same age, and as good as Roy's at the same age. I have a 70 day CB that has 88 speed, and 67 agility (both natural) which is not bad at level 30.

Are my dots as fast as Roy's? No. they are younger then his by an entire season, but both my older CBs are still fast... 92+ natural speed, and being lower level they do not have as much in Eq, so end result is the younger dot is not as fast... not a shock.

Originally posted by ANumber1Roy
Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 21
Speed: 136.9 (+36)
Agility: 90.9 (+8)
Jumping: 72.9
Stamina: 54.06
Vision: 76.9
Confidence: 30.06

Football Skills
Blocking: 8
Catching: 20.06
Tackling: 62.06
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 8
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8

Special Abilities
Shutdown Corner Abilities
Swat Ball: 1
Sticky Hands: 1
Superior Vision: 1
Smooth Operator: 1
Shutdown Coverage: 1

Speedster Abilities
First Step: 0
Change Direction: 0
Return Specialist: 0
Blitz: 0
Closing Speed: 0

Additional Abilities
Jackhammer: 0
Veteran Abilities
Football Genius: 15
Long Reach: 7
Second Wind: 5
Third Down Stopper: 15

Current Bonuses/Penalties
Vision: +5.77
Deflect ball chance: +16%
Avoid fake chance: +13%



Hjørne Tilbake (Lv. 52 CB)

Ht/Wt: 6'3", 170lbs

Experience, Skill Points, and Cash
Money: $0
Daily Salary: $4400
Skill Points: 0
Training Points: 2
Bonus Tokens: 91
Veteran Points: 0
Next Level: 125/1000

Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 35 (14 higher then Ty)
Speed: 126.43 (+34) (natural is 8 lower)
Agility: 84.43 (natural is 2 higher)
Jumping: 64.43 (natural is 8 lower)
Stamina: 35.29 (natural is 19 lower)
Vision: 60.43 (natural is 16 lower)
Confidence: 44.29 (natural is 14 higher)

Football Skills
Blocking: 8
Catching: 52.29 (natural is 32 higher)
Tackling: 48.29 (natural is 14 lower)
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 8
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8

Special Abilities
Shutdown Corner Abilities
Swat Ball: 2
Sticky Hands: 2
Superior Vision: 2
Smooth Operator: 2
Shutdown Coverage: 2

Speedster Abilities
First Step: 1
Change Direction: 1
Return Specialist: 0
Blitz: 0
Closing Speed: 0

Additional Abilities
Wrap Up Tackle: 0
Veteran Abilities
Ball Hawk: 15
Third Down Stopper: 13

Current Bonuses/Penalties
Intercept chance: +3%

so on Skills and attributes that matter to a CB my guy's natural abilities are collectively on 3 points lower then Roy's player at 7 levels lower and a season younger. Does that suck? No. His speed will get better with AEGs as he ages... he still has something like 250 days left before plateau... so yeah he is good, and will continue to improve. And he still has Bonus Tokens to spend when he needs them, so wake up and stop making yourself look like an idiot Sellars

Originally posted by einar_90808


Hjørne Tilbake (Lv. 52 CB)

Ht/Wt: 6'3", 170lbs

Experience, Skill Points, and Cash
Money: $0
Daily Salary: $4400
Skill Points: 0
Training Points: 2
Bonus Tokens: 91
Veteran Points: 0
Next Level: 125/1000

Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 35 (14 higher then Ty)
Speed: 126.43 (+34) (natural is 8 lower)
Agility: 84.43 (natural is 2 higher)
Jumping: 64.43 (natural is 8 lower)
Stamina: 35.29 (natural is 19 lower)
Vision: 60.43 (natural is 16 lower)
Confidence: 44.29 (natural is 14 higher)

Football Skills
Blocking: 8
Catching: 52.29 (natural is 32 higher)
Tackling: 48.29 (natural is 14 lower)
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 8
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8

Special Abilities
Shutdown Corner Abilities
Swat Ball: 2
Sticky Hands: 2
Superior Vision: 2
Smooth Operator: 2
Shutdown Coverage: 2

Speedster Abilities
First Step: 1
Change Direction: 1
Return Specialist: 0
Blitz: 0
Closing Speed: 0

Additional Abilities
Wrap Up Tackle: 0
Veteran Abilities
Ball Hawk: 15
Third Down Stopper: 13

Current Bonuses/Penalties
Intercept chance: +3%

so on Skills and attributes that matter to a CB my guy's natural abilities are collectively on 3 points lower then Roy's player at 7 levels lower and a season younger. Does that suck? No. His speed will get better with AEGs as he ages... he still has something like 250 days left before plateau... so yeah he is good, and will continue to improve. And he still has Bonus Tokens to spend when he needs them, so wake up and stop making yourself look like an idiot Sellars



You've already crowned yourself as King Idiot by stating that you sell BTs for SPs instead of using them for AEQ. You're comparing a build that is saving BTs for AEQ to a build that is spending them for SPs and you're making that comparison while ignoring the value of that AEQ. Newsflash, there is no way you can ever get your skills high enough by spending BTs that you will overtake the value of 3 pieces of % AEQ.

Originally posted by einar 90808
so on Skills and attributes that matter to a CB my guy's natural abilities are collectively on 3 points lower then Roy's player at 7 levels lower and a season younger. Does that suck? No. His speed will get better with AEGs as he ages


Im sorry but this is an extremely short-sighted argument on your part. Collective 3pts lower? What?
7 levels difference is a straight 35 SPs worth. Yes you also have training to go and ALGs which would also add to the SP totals you're behind due to level difference, but is that going to make up my very rough math of around 190 SPs total your build is currently behind (not counting level difference)? Even if you went and made his Speed difference nonexistent and gave your dot the 7 levels of SPs behind, Roy's dot is still ahead by roughly 8-10 levels of SPs. That's not even taking into consideration his opportunity to advance his highest SP valued attributes at higher future amounts at higher rate than your more-rounded build...But the game sure does take that into account in sim rolls at later builds' leagues.

I have no problem with to each their own on enjoyment, but wrong evidence trying to prove right is still wrong...

Originally posted by rivergato
Im sorry but this is an extremely short-sighted argument on your part. Collective 3pts lower? What?
7 levels difference is a straight 35 SPs worth. Yes you also have training to go and ALGs which would also add to the SP totals you're behind due to level difference, but is that going to make up my very rough math of around 190 SPs total your build is currently behind (not counting level difference)? Even if you went and made his Speed difference nonexistent and gave your dot the 7 levels of SPs behind, Roy's dot is still ahead by roughly 8-10 levels of SPs. That's not even taking into consideration his opportunity to advance his highest SP valued attributes at higher future amounts at higher rate than your more-rounded build...But the game sure does take that into account in sim rolls at later builds' leagues.

I have no problem with to each their own on enjoyment, but wrong evidence trying to prove right is still wrong...

We gave up on trying to help him on his cb's long ago. Hard headed as they come...

The only idiot in this thread is the one who still thinks they are right even after being proven wrong. One more thing, I dont give a rats ass how u spell your name.

1075 vs 866.68

That is over 200 SP's worth more value in my build and that's including your BT's for SP's in the build while I use my BT's for AEQ which gives me +6 attribute more at this point with +6 more to go from 2 more future pieces. Even if I went back 1 season on my CB he would still be over 100 SP's higher than your guy still with a AEQ advantage.

I guess aeq is mainstream too...
Let's see, tackle over speed. Bt used for sp over aeq. I guess we all got it wrong guys. I now gotta start from scratch.

Originally posted by Sellars
The only idiot in this thread is the one who still thinks they are right even after being proven wrong. One more thing, I dont give a rats ass how u spell your name.

you continue to prove your ignorance. I am not even going to bother to reply to anything you post in here again Sellars becaause it is clear you are about as big a moron as there is in GLB

Arguing with all of GLB when your wrong makes u the clear winner

for those that still believe my CB is cr@p:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=2054252

playoff game. The team they were up against was not the best, but was good enough to make the second round.

My CB was targeted 5 times... allowed 0 receptions, and had 3 PDs.

My other CB had 1 TK, 1 MsTk (with strength of 36 and Tackling of 51.85 so yeah a player with lower tackling would likely have missed 2 tackles), was targeted 4 times allowing 2 receptions.

in our previous playoff game against a much better team:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=2050855

one of my CBs had 3 TK, 2 TFL, was targeted 7 times, allowed 3 receptions, and had 5 PDs.

The other had 1 Tk, was targeted 3 times, allowed only 1 reception, had 1 PD and 2 Reverse Pancakes.

So do the math...

my best CB in the playoffs this season: 1 Tk, 0 MsTk, 1 TFL, 8 Targ, 1 RecAlw, 4 PDs.

my second CB: 4 Tk, 1 MsTk, 2 TFL, 11 Targ, 5 RecAlw, 5 PDs.

Clearly they do not suck.

So yeah, if a lot of people in GLB want to act like sheep and make carbon copies of their CBs and claim 'it is the only way to make a good CB' and I have repeatedly shown that a couple of my CBs made a different way are in fact just as good, then yes... I am right and the sheep ARE wrong.

Oh and for the record Sellars... how about some more facts:

1) you have been in GLB 1 day longer then me

2) your players have won 10 League Championship trophies, 21 Conference Championship trophies, and 4 have been MVPs.

3 My players have won 31 League Championships trophies (21 more then your's), 53 Conference Championship trophies (32 more then your's, and 3 have been MVPs.

So 21 more League Championships, 32 more Conference Championship and only 1 less MVP in the same amount of time pretty much proves right there that I make players as well or better then you. The only reason I ever retire players is when I can no longer boost them, because it is universally true that non-boosting players cannot compete.

So until your players catch up to mine, you can pretty much just shut up until you realize that you ARE wrong.

You are wrong, your comparing stats of a lvl 52 cornerback who is built to perform now vs our corner backs who are built to perform at the only lvl anyone really cares about (lvl 79). In addition, when u trade in BTs for SPs u gain SP value yet your dots are still horribly behind even using BT boosting as an advantage over everyone elses. When u make a DOT who can play at the PRO or WL lvl then u are free to post and make us all look bad, until then you have nothing.

Facts? Wow even more drivel from you, league championships have what to do with building dots?? mvps ?? again nothing. But since u wanna bring it up ill make u look stupid once again. Since u were to slow to notice, u say iv been here longer, I can see how that would cancel out the fact that you yourself have a ridiculously long list of retired dots compared to my very small one. I mean really having about 10 times more dots to compete for those aforementioned titles u would think that your trophy case would be overflowing, but its not. Not that having trophy's means a f### one way or another but its something that u personally seem to think has relevance. Now that iv shown u my dots to trophy ratio is superior what do u have to say for yourself??

PeeWee Copper gold is srs business

Einar... just stop.
We aren't advocating there is only one way to build CB's. There isn't, there are a number of ways. However, when it comes to build efficiency there will always be better ways to be more efficient, and sadly the things you are advocating have a serious lack of build efficiency. Which is why your SP values are so low despite you trading all of your BT's for SP.