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What league you play in should have difrent chance of getting that kind of weather than another.

Ex. Oceania should'nt have any chance of causing snow, but bigger chanse of strong sun.

Originally posted by drifter
Originally posted by Ken1

I haven't read through all this; but my big thing, if weather is added, is that it should be based on actual climate in the area where the game is played.

I have a team in Cairo, so I'd venture to say it shouldn't snow at any of their games. The heat should get so bad early in the season, though, that it can lower stamina.

How to do that? Someone can get a list of 100 world cities and their climates (can't be too hard online) and then have people choose the city their team is closest to. This would be displayed (along with a weather forecast for their next game, based on climate September through December, the month based on where we are in the season-- January for the playoffs) on the team page.

Some people may make a mistake in their choice of city, or some people may decide they want a different city's weather and cheat. For both cases, there'd be a button by the city "report city mistake" that would go to Mods or whoever.

If it's a fairly harmless mistake (if my team's in Cairo and I was a bit ignorant of world geography and chose Tripoli, Libya over Jerusalem as the closer city, for example), it would get changed but it wouldn't be a big deal. If someone was obviously trying to pull a fast one (choosing Los Angeles for a team in Fairbanks rather than Anchorage or even Edmonton), then the team might be fined and the city changed.

Way too complicated and too easy to exploit. I've been saying since season 1, when this was first discussed that it should be global weather - from day to day, it's the same everywhere, regardless of the meaningless geography of the game.

The day before a weather forecast would come out allowing GMs to gameplan accordingly and then the day of, the weather would be the same for every game, every league that is played. The forecast would not always be 100% accurte. There would always be 3 factors: temperature, precipitation and wind. Early in the season, high heat would be more likely and later in the season, cold.

This would be easy to implement, add some game strategy and provide some variation to the games.

I'm all for weather, but only if it's realistic for the city. If it can snow in Cairo (or Florida, or Hawaii, or whatever), I'm against it.

Make it work realistically for the city (not necessarily as intricate as I suggested, although I think my way would be the best), and it's a nice addition. I was going to say the region of the league might be enough, but then in the USA you could still have snow in Miami or Los Angeles, or awful heat and humidity in Seattle, so it has to be more intricate than that.

yea and u can build closed stadium and stuff to avoid this and upgrade your staduim ground like grass to turf.

Originally posted by Ken1
Originally posted by drifter

Originally posted by Ken1


I haven't read through all this; but my big thing, if weather is added, is that it should be based on actual climate in the area where the game is played.

I have a team in Cairo, so I'd venture to say it shouldn't snow at any of their games. The heat should get so bad early in the season, though, that it can lower stamina.

How to do that? Someone can get a list of 100 world cities and their climates (can't be too hard online) and then have people choose the city their team is closest to. This would be displayed (along with a weather forecast for their next game, based on climate September through December, the month based on where we are in the season-- January for the playoffs) on the team page.

Some people may make a mistake in their choice of city, or some people may decide they want a different city's weather and cheat. For both cases, there'd be a button by the city "report city mistake" that would go to Mods or whoever.

If it's a fairly harmless mistake (if my team's in Cairo and I was a bit ignorant of world geography and chose Tripoli, Libya over Jerusalem as the closer city, for example), it would get changed but it wouldn't be a big deal. If someone was obviously trying to pull a fast one (choosing Los Angeles for a team in Fairbanks rather than Anchorage or even Edmonton), then the team might be fined and the city changed.

Way too complicated and too easy to exploit. I've been saying since season 1, when this was first discussed that it should be global weather - from day to day, it's the same everywhere, regardless of the meaningless geography of the game.

The day before a weather forecast would come out allowing GMs to gameplan accordingly and then the day of, the weather would be the same for every game, every league that is played. The forecast would not always be 100% accurte. There would always be 3 factors: temperature, precipitation and wind. Early in the season, high heat would be more likely and later in the season, cold.

This would be easy to implement, add some game strategy and provide some variation to the games.

I'm all for weather, but only if it's realistic for the city. If it can snow in Cairo (or Florida, or Hawaii, or whatever), I'm against it.

Make it work realistically for the city (not necessarily as intricate as I suggested, although I think my way would be the best), and it's a nice addition. I was going to say the region of the league might be enough, but then in the USA you could still have snow in Miami or Los Angeles, or awful heat and humidity in Seattle, so it has to be more intricate than that.

Too many teams have made up cities or no city at all. It's just not feasible to do it that way. If you don't do game wide weather, make it regional weather, but city weather is completely out of the question the way the game is currently set up and any idea that requires a massive change in other features of the game is just not going to happen. They key to any good suggestion is making it fit within the existing framework of the game. This is why GG's suggestions so often fail.

If you get specific enough about the region (e.g. region within a region), I could see regions working.

I don't think my idea is that unworkable, though. Most teams are in specific cities and those that aren't can just pick any city in their league's region to be close to, it would be publicly visible, and it couldn't be changed (unless a new owner changed the city, and that might only be allowed in the offseason, and once per owner).

But to get simpler you might have regions like "USA Southeast," (basically anywhere there used to be slavery) with a climate based on Atlanta, "USA Northeast" based on New York, "USA Midwest" based on Chicago and including anything north of the Confederacy and east of the Rockies, "USA Southwest" based on Albuquerque, covering California, Arizona, New Mexico (using Albuquerque as it's less extreme than Phoenix but more extreme than the West Coast).

The rest of the USA could fit into general regions that would cover areas through the world:

"Mountain," including all the world's areas that are basically mountain climates based on something like Cheyenne, "Maritime," based on Seattle and also including places like London as well as the Pacific Northwest, "Arctic" for northern Canada and Alaska, plus much of Russia, and places like Sweden, maybe using Anchoarge, "Tropical" with San Juan as a basis that would include all Tropical areas, and then for Europe, "Continental Europe" (using Berlin) for most of it with "Mediterranean Europe" (using Naples, Italy) for that close to the sea, with the aforementioned "Maritime" covering England, Ireland, etc..

"Sahara Desert" (using an Ethiopian city) could cover northern Africa, with Johannesburg covering "Southern Africa."

One city like Sydney could cover Australia and New Zealand, and I could see Seoul covering Southeast Asia, although I'm sure there are some major differences in climate within the region that I don't know but someone who knows the region better would.

That's most of the world in maybe 15 climate types. I'd gladly just use Koppen classifications, but that would confuse people more.

I think we need something at least that intricate (either regions like I described or Koppen classifications, or my original idea), though, to make the weather not ridiculous for the areas.

Yea I like this idea, but it shouldnt interefere too much with the actual gameplay.

like the idea

I like the weather idea in general. I think to make it more realistic it may have to be limited to just wind and percipitation. It would be great to have it affect different field surfaces differently (natural vs artificial) and include the option of a dome as a stadium option.

It would also have to be forcastable to within a percentage of accuracy. I think it would defeat the purpose just having it be a game time roll.

yea at the very least add in wind. That would affect passes as well as kicks.

I would like to add, subjecting to this change being implemented, that the percentage that it is rainy/sunny or snowy varies depending on which region you are in (the north american league/ European League/ African League.


For Example in the North American region The weather is Sunny 35% of the time, Rainy 25% of the time, Snowy 5% and Cloudy 35% of the time.

Where as in Africa it would be Sunny 65% of the time, Rainy 3% of the time Snowy 1% of the time and Cloudy 21% of the time.

Obviously the percentages would be up to the BORT but its just an idea.

Would like to hear thoughts and prefferably constructive feedback.

Would also like to add i haven't seen anyone mention this before but if they have then i would like to add my support to their proposition.

Hahahahaha just had a look and it seems as though lots of people have suggested 'my idea'.

i would like to apologize for bringing it up again. i just thought it was a good idea and couldn't be bothered to read the comments on the page before posting.

INAE

great idea

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