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I'll tell you why I wouldn't vote this in. I went through a experience in season 5 where a owner wanted me to build my dot a certain way and I refused. Due to me refusing this owner's suggestion my dot was immediately traded to a team with no warning. The worst part about it was the owner was wrong in my mind on where I should put my SP's on the build. He wanted me to put all my SP's from boosting on tackling for my CB at level 25 when I was building up his vision to be a cover corner. I told him I was training tackling which I was and it made no difference cause he was a control freak like some people are in real life with power. A good owner would have given the player a option to find another team if they didn't like the direction I was going with my build but unfortunately you have many bad owners. I was a owner for many seasons and always respected agents wishes but this owner was a prick that no longer plays this game the last time I checked.

The point I'm making is once this becomes an option the owner will gain more power over a agent because your giving that option that isn't there now. The argument of attribute sharing option already being there so why not tactics is a bad one in my mind. By a owner seeing my attributes and telling me how to build a player after I signed I was already in his side pocket and he had all the control of how to use my player. Some team owners don't know what they're doing yet will tell experienced builders how to build there players or else. I don't have that problem anymore cause I've built up a network of good agents and owners to play for but this option will hurt the newbies or agents with no network.

I get the idea of it cause it would be a good idea for the good owners out there but I have to vote against it seeing 1st hand how egotistical some owners about how to build or set tactics.

mark me down -1

I'm a agent that shows his build to owners and DC's only. Some teams I may do GM's only. I'd have no problem showing tactics to my teams if it became an option but I know it will be abused by owners.

Edit: By some owners I mean. Not all

F No

Originally posted by ANumber1Roy
I'm a agent that shows his build to owners and DC's only. Some teams I may do GM's only. I'd have no problem showing tactics to my teams if it became an option but I know it will be abused by owners.

Edit: By some owners I mean. Not all

I get that you were screwed by a bad owner but wouldnt the tactics sharing be the most logical thing to share anyway?

I mean, in theory the lolbars, effective level, & archetype could be looked at to identify a player's general skillset in order to compare builds & determine the right fit for your team. Obviously, none of these can be relied upon to tell us a dam thing but that's because they aren't implemented correctly(separate topic).

But the tactics are actually very specific to the team and the ability to share/not share doesn't screw up your build longer term. Could be less optimal for stats or something depending on position (but even that is probably not fair since stats rely on scheme/gameplan anyway) but I dont see how its the same drawback as sharing skills.

Originally posted by SteveMax58
I get that you were screwed by a bad owner but wouldnt the tactics sharing be the most logical thing to share anyway?

I mean, in theory the lolbars, effective level, & archetype could be looked at to identify a player's general skillset in order to compare builds & determine the right fit for your team. Obviously, none of these can be relied upon to tell us a dam thing but that's because they aren't implemented correctly(separate topic).

But the tactics are actually very specific to the team and the ability to share/not share doesn't screw up your build longer term. Could be less optimal for stats or something depending on position (but even that is probably not fair since stats rely on scheme/gameplan anyway) but I dont see how its the same drawback as sharing skills.

I'm personally fine with having the option but I know it will hurt new agents more than anything when they sign with poorly ran teams that bench players for not building a dot or setting tactics a certain way. Players will lose out on XP and it hurts the team.

Roy,what happened to you is not nearly as common as it used to be, nor as common as you think it is. Check out this thread.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4435940

Originally posted by Novus
Roy,what happened to you is not nearly as common as it used to be, nor as common as you think it is. Check out this thread.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4435940

Most of those agents are part of some kind of network. I'm not saying it isn't common anymore but to say it doesn't happen anymore is a reach too. You probably have your own network of agents you've worked with for some time so it'd be tough to witness this type of activity unless people spoke up. Even when people have spoke up in the past they have been frowned upon for airing dirty laundry on the team by the community which I've seen happen quite a few times in the past.

Like I said I know this change would benefit me but it could hurt some new guys.

Originally posted by ANumber1Roy
I'm not saying it isn't common anymore but to say it doesn't happen anymore is a reach too.
If I said it doesn't happen at all anymore, yes, that would be a reach. That's why I didn't say it doesn't happen at all anymore.

What I said is that it's not as common as it used to be, nor as common now as you think it is. Of course there are still idiot owners who try to bench players for stupid reasons, and who will do so if my Suggestion is implemented. But I think it's far fewer than you seem to think, and the thread I linked to backs that up.

Most owners have learned that doing stupid shit like trying to bench dots doesn't do any good. The benched dot is just going to run to Support and probably get released anyway, and it just gives you a bad reputation as an owner and keeps good agents and good dots from signing with your team.

Originally posted by ANumber1Roy
Most of those agents are part of some kind of network... You probably have your own network of agents you've worked with for some time so it'd be tough to witness this type of activity unless people spoke up.
I do have a small, loose network, but I also have a long history of placing my dots on teams that are completely outside of that small network. (2 of my 4 dots right now are on teams owned by complete strangers, and when I had more dots in the past, that number was a bit higher.) So I've actually been on teams where a teammate's dot was benched and rotted -- but it was always over some petty personal bullshit between that agent and the team owner, never over a build being closed. I was also on a team once where my QB was clearly putting up better numbers than the starting QB (who happened to be owned by the team owner), but I kept my mouth shut, rejected his contract offer at the end of the season, and found a better team for him elsewhere.

So believe me, I have plenty of personal experience with the shadier side of GLB. This hasn't been all sunshine and roses for me in my Happy Good Luck Novus Network.

There's always going to be jerk owners. There's always going to be jerk agents too. But I think it's important to note that your own bad benching experience happened back in Season 5, and the stories I have are all from before Season 10. We're in Season 20 now. A lot of the jerkiness from both agents and team owners has sorted itself out -- not all, but a lot -- simply because being a jerk in this game hurts you big-time in the long run. Smart owners and agents figure that out and chill out. Dumb owners and agents keep acting like jerks until nobody's willing to play with them anymore, and then they get bored and leave.

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Originally posted by Novus
Originally posted by ANumber1Roy

I'm not saying it isn't common anymore but to say it doesn't happen anymore is a reach too.
If I said it doesn't happen at all anymore, yes, that would be a reach. That's why I didn't say it doesn't happen at all anymore.

What I said is that it's not as common as it used to be, nor as common now as you think it is. Of course there are still idiot owners who try to bench players for stupid reasons, and who will do so if my Suggestion is implemented. But I think it's far fewer than you seem to think, and the thread I linked to backs that up.

Most owners have learned that doing stupid shit like trying to bench dots doesn't do any good. The benched dot is just going to run to Support and probably get released anyway, and it just gives you a bad reputation as an owner and keeps good agents and good dots from signing with your team.

Originally posted by ANumber1Roy

Most of those agents are part of some kind of network... You probably have your own network of agents you've worked with for some time so it'd be tough to witness this type of activity unless people spoke up.
I do have a small, loose network, but I also have a long history of placing my dots on teams that are completely outside of that small network. (2 of my 4 dots right now are on teams owned by complete strangers, and when I had more dots in the past, that number was a bit higher.) So I've actually been on teams where a teammate's dot was benched and rotted -- but it was always over some petty personal bullshit between that agent and the team owner, never over a build being closed. I was also on a team once where my QB was clearly putting up better numbers than the starting QB (who happened to be owned by the team owner), but I kept my mouth shut, rejected his contract offer at the end of the season, and found a better team for him elsewhere.

So believe me, I have plenty of personal experience with the shadier side of GLB. This hasn't been all sunshine and roses for me in my Happy Good Luck Novus Network.

There's always going to be jerk owners. There's always going to be jerk agents too. But I think it's important to note that your own bad benching experience happened back in Season 5, and the stories I have are all from before Season 10. We're in Season 20 now. A lot of the jerkiness from both agents and team owners has sorted itself out -- not all, but a lot -- simply because being a jerk in this game hurts you big-time in the long run. Smart owners and agents figure that out and chill out. Dumb owners and agents keep acting like jerks until nobody's willing to play with them anymore, and then they get bored and leave.

ur a jerk jerk jerk

Originally posted by stromstarhammer
ur a jerk jerk jerk

Et tu, strom?

(I'm assuming this is a joke that I just don't get. )

Owners should be able to see EVERY player profile on the roster they own.