As I said, I can understand wanting to shuffle teams to make leagues more competitive. It's just the Pro name thing that is awkward.
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Originally posted by Darkus Black
The biggest problem will be with people not feeling like they are in the correct league to begin with. If this was to happen then some people will just have to suck it up and accept the way it falls. This is the suggestion I have put together:
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1 PRO LEAGUE
8 FEEDERS
16 SUB FEEDERS
Each season 8 winners from the FEEDERS Enter PRO and 8 drop down, 1 in each
Each FEEDER has 2 SUB FEEDERS so the two winners move up and the bottom two drop down out of the FEEDER league.
Every time you want to release new leagues then you can release in multiples of 8 and just move one more team up from the SUB FEEDER and one more team down from the FEEDER leagues every multiple of 8
----------------------------------------------------------PRO----------------------------------------------------
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FEEDER---FEEDER---FEEDER---FEEDER---FEEDER---FEEDER---FEEDER---FEEDER---
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S1-S2--------S1-S2----------S1-S2-----S1-S2---------S1-S2-----S1-S2------S1-S2-------S1-S2---
I then proposed the following system to populate the first season:
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25 winners + 7 random runner ups = 32
That leaves 18 Runner ups they are distributed 2 to a league (One in each conference) with 2 left overs that are assigned to FEEDER 1 & FEEDER 2 league.
Then you have 50 losers from the next round (conference runner ups) you put 6 in each league (3 in each conference) that leaves 2 left overs that are assigned to FEEDER 3 & FEEDER 4 league
Then you have 100 losers from the previous round. 12 to a league (6 in each conference) which leaves 4 left overs that are assigned to FEEDER 5, FEEDER 6, FEEDER 7, FEEDER 8 leagues.
Then you pick 88 random teams from the first round losses and put 11 in each FEEDER league.
That leaves 112 First Round losing teams. 7 are placed in each SUB FEEDER league and then the remaining pee wee teams are distributed amongst those leagues.
This will make the PRO league HIGHLY competitive and very difficult to stay in. This will certainly make for a very exciting top league.
Hoping that Bort will put something into action.
What about the teams that have been here since first season and competitive every year just didn't win this season....shouldn't be based on just this season...I think vet owners should have a crack at Pro lreague
The biggest problem will be with people not feeling like they are in the correct league to begin with. If this was to happen then some people will just have to suck it up and accept the way it falls. This is the suggestion I have put together:
Originally posted by
1 PRO LEAGUE
8 FEEDERS
16 SUB FEEDERS
Each season 8 winners from the FEEDERS Enter PRO and 8 drop down, 1 in each
Each FEEDER has 2 SUB FEEDERS so the two winners move up and the bottom two drop down out of the FEEDER league.
Every time you want to release new leagues then you can release in multiples of 8 and just move one more team up from the SUB FEEDER and one more team down from the FEEDER leagues every multiple of 8
----------------------------------------------------------PRO----------------------------------------------------
---|-----------------|-----------------|------------|-----------------|------------|--------------|---------------|---
FEEDER---FEEDER---FEEDER---FEEDER---FEEDER---FEEDER---FEEDER---FEEDER---
---|-----------------|-----------------|------------|-----------------|------------|--------------|---------------|---
S1-S2--------S1-S2----------S1-S2-----S1-S2---------S1-S2-----S1-S2------S1-S2-------S1-S2---
I then proposed the following system to populate the first season:
Originally posted by
25 winners + 7 random runner ups = 32
That leaves 18 Runner ups they are distributed 2 to a league (One in each conference) with 2 left overs that are assigned to FEEDER 1 & FEEDER 2 league.
Then you have 50 losers from the next round (conference runner ups) you put 6 in each league (3 in each conference) that leaves 2 left overs that are assigned to FEEDER 3 & FEEDER 4 league
Then you have 100 losers from the previous round. 12 to a league (6 in each conference) which leaves 4 left overs that are assigned to FEEDER 5, FEEDER 6, FEEDER 7, FEEDER 8 leagues.
Then you pick 88 random teams from the first round losses and put 11 in each FEEDER league.
That leaves 112 First Round losing teams. 7 are placed in each SUB FEEDER league and then the remaining pee wee teams are distributed amongst those leagues.
This will make the PRO league HIGHLY competitive and very difficult to stay in. This will certainly make for a very exciting top league.
Hoping that Bort will put something into action.
What about the teams that have been here since first season and competitive every year just didn't win this season....shouldn't be based on just this season...I think vet owners should have a crack at Pro lreague
Edited by mvikings77 on Aug 2, 2009 15:45:38
stwcjj
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Originally posted by Dub J
As I said, I can understand wanting to shuffle teams to make leagues more competitive. It's just the Pro name thing that is awkward.
It sounds better than the Pee Wee get together of all those annual owners who kill the competition in their league and wanted to face tougher competition each week and not have to spend flex on scrimmages League
As I said, I can understand wanting to shuffle teams to make leagues more competitive. It's just the Pro name thing that is awkward.
It sounds better than the Pee Wee get together of all those annual owners who kill the competition in their league and wanted to face tougher competition each week and not have to spend flex on scrimmages League
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Originally posted by stwcjj
Originally posted by Dub J
As I said, I can understand wanting to shuffle teams to make leagues more competitive. It's just the Pro name thing that is awkward.
It sounds better than the Pee Wee get together of all those annual owners who kill the competition in their league and wanted to face tougher competition each week and not have to spend flex on scrimmages League
HA. youu got him jj.
Originally posted by Dub J
As I said, I can understand wanting to shuffle teams to make leagues more competitive. It's just the Pro name thing that is awkward.
It sounds better than the Pee Wee get together of all those annual owners who kill the competition in their league and wanted to face tougher competition each week and not have to spend flex on scrimmages League
HA. youu got him jj.
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Basically all the champions and some runner ups start the league, so if your good enough that you win in the feeder league you will replace the bottom 8 teams in pro. If read it correctly. Bottom line is win a championship and your in.
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Originally posted by LordEvil
Basically all the champions and some runner ups start the league, so if your good enough that you win in the feeder league you will replace the bottom 8 teams in pro. If read it correctly. Bottom line is win a championship and your in.
yep you are correct
Basically all the champions and some runner ups start the league, so if your good enough that you win in the feeder league you will replace the bottom 8 teams in pro. If read it correctly. Bottom line is win a championship and your in.
yep you are correct
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Originally posted by enasty19
Originally posted by stwcjj
Originally posted by Dub J
As I said, I can understand wanting to shuffle teams to make leagues more competitive. It's just the Pro name thing that is awkward.
It sounds better than the Pee Wee get together of all those annual owners who kill the competition in their league and wanted to face tougher competition each week and not have to spend flex on scrimmages League
HA. youu got him jj.
I cannot stress enough that I am not trying to insult anyone.
Originally posted by stwcjj
Originally posted by Dub J
As I said, I can understand wanting to shuffle teams to make leagues more competitive. It's just the Pro name thing that is awkward.
It sounds better than the Pee Wee get together of all those annual owners who kill the competition in their league and wanted to face tougher competition each week and not have to spend flex on scrimmages League
HA. youu got him jj.
I cannot stress enough that I am not trying to insult anyone.
Originally posted by Dub J
Originally posted by enasty19
Originally posted by stwcjj
Originally posted by Dub J
As I said, I can understand wanting to shuffle teams to make leagues more competitive. It's just the Pro name thing that is awkward.
It sounds better than the Pee Wee get together of all those annual owners who kill the competition in their league and wanted to face tougher competition each week and not have to spend flex on scrimmages League
HA. youu got him jj.
I cannot stress enough that I am not trying to insult anyone.
What are you trying to do then? Seems like you are just trolling, because you are not saying anything of any substance or worth at the moment.
It is just a name, no forget that, it is just fun because it is a stupid game. Good grief.
We could call it pee wee poopyheads. It wouldn't matter.
Originally posted by enasty19
Originally posted by stwcjj
Originally posted by Dub J
As I said, I can understand wanting to shuffle teams to make leagues more competitive. It's just the Pro name thing that is awkward.
It sounds better than the Pee Wee get together of all those annual owners who kill the competition in their league and wanted to face tougher competition each week and not have to spend flex on scrimmages League
HA. youu got him jj.
I cannot stress enough that I am not trying to insult anyone.
What are you trying to do then? Seems like you are just trolling, because you are not saying anything of any substance or worth at the moment.
It is just a name, no forget that, it is just fun because it is a stupid game. Good grief.
We could call it pee wee poopyheads. It wouldn't matter.
Dub J
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Originally posted by Darkus Black
What are you trying to do then? Seems like you are just trolling, because you are not saying anything of any substance or worth at the moment.
It is just a name, no forget that, it is just fun because it is a stupid game. Good grief.
We could call it pee wee poopyheads. It wouldn't matter.
Actually I posted "forget I ever posted anything" a while back and someone wanted to continue this...so no, I'm not trolling.
What are you trying to do then? Seems like you are just trolling, because you are not saying anything of any substance or worth at the moment.
It is just a name, no forget that, it is just fun because it is a stupid game. Good grief.
We could call it pee wee poopyheads. It wouldn't matter.
Actually I posted "forget I ever posted anything" a while back and someone wanted to continue this...so no, I'm not trolling.
Originally posted by mvikings77
What about the teams that have been here since first season and competitive every year just didn't win this season....shouldn't be based on just this season...I think vet owners should have a crack at Pro lreague
They can win this season an move up next. The Darkus Blacks won't be in the pro league this season and we can run with the best of them when I am not too busy to be able to set the team properly. I certainly won't be complaining about it because we will still have a fun season of playing dotball.
What about the teams that have been here since first season and competitive every year just didn't win this season....shouldn't be based on just this season...I think vet owners should have a crack at Pro lreague
They can win this season an move up next. The Darkus Blacks won't be in the pro league this season and we can run with the best of them when I am not too busy to be able to set the team properly. I certainly won't be complaining about it because we will still have a fun season of playing dotball.
Originally posted by Dub J
Originally posted by Darkus Black
What are you trying to do then? Seems like you are just trolling, because you are not saying anything of any substance or worth at the moment.
It is just a name, no forget that, it is just fun because it is a stupid game. Good grief.
We could call it pee wee poopyheads. It wouldn't matter.
Actually I posted "forget I ever posted anything" a while back and someone wanted to continue this...so no, I'm not trolling.
Ha. I haven't looked back in the thread yet. Sorry.
Originally posted by Darkus Black
What are you trying to do then? Seems like you are just trolling, because you are not saying anything of any substance or worth at the moment.
It is just a name, no forget that, it is just fun because it is a stupid game. Good grief.
We could call it pee wee poopyheads. It wouldn't matter.
Actually I posted "forget I ever posted anything" a while back and someone wanted to continue this...so no, I'm not trolling.
Ha. I haven't looked back in the thread yet. Sorry.
mvikings77
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"We could call it pee wee poopyheads. It wouldn't matter. "
I don't know....I might have to take exception to that one....
I don't know....I might have to take exception to that one....
Edited by mvikings77 on Aug 2, 2009 16:12:59
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I'm sorry, I skipped to post after reading the first couple of pages, so forgive me if this has been already suggested.
Rather than selecting teams at random, would it be difficult to instead select teams who have had success for a few seasons? Meaning, instead of a 1st year team or perhaps a team who was pretty bad for a few seasons and then snuck up into 3rd or 4th place; allow the team that has made it deep into the playoffs the past few seasons get the nod. This would give a reward to the teams who have been around and well-run for longer their reward, as well as help the teams who are very good teams, but are stuck in very tough divisions.
Perhaps something like 40% weight to total wins over the last 3 seasons (including playoffs, but not scrimmages) and 60% weight to the win % over the last 3 seasons. I wouldn't think that would be too touch to calculate and implement.
Rather than selecting teams at random, would it be difficult to instead select teams who have had success for a few seasons? Meaning, instead of a 1st year team or perhaps a team who was pretty bad for a few seasons and then snuck up into 3rd or 4th place; allow the team that has made it deep into the playoffs the past few seasons get the nod. This would give a reward to the teams who have been around and well-run for longer their reward, as well as help the teams who are very good teams, but are stuck in very tough divisions.
Perhaps something like 40% weight to total wins over the last 3 seasons (including playoffs, but not scrimmages) and 60% weight to the win % over the last 3 seasons. I wouldn't think that would be too touch to calculate and implement.
Edited by PING72 on Aug 2, 2009 16:30:02
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Originally posted by Darkus Black
Originally posted by mvikings77
What about the teams that have been here since first season and competitive every year just didn't win this season....shouldn't be based on just this season...I think vet owners should have a crack at Pro lreague
They can win this season an move up next. The Darkus Blacks won't be in the pro league this season and we can run with the best of them when I am not too busy to be able to set the team properly. I certainly won't be complaining about it because we will still have a fun season of playing dotball.
That's my attitude now too although if the league 5 teams that don't make it stay together, that's going to be one insane feeder team.
Originally posted by mvikings77
What about the teams that have been here since first season and competitive every year just didn't win this season....shouldn't be based on just this season...I think vet owners should have a crack at Pro lreague
They can win this season an move up next. The Darkus Blacks won't be in the pro league this season and we can run with the best of them when I am not too busy to be able to set the team properly. I certainly won't be complaining about it because we will still have a fun season of playing dotball.
That's my attitude now too although if the league 5 teams that don't make it stay together, that's going to be one insane feeder team.
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