Warrior General Games

Originally posted by wlarson
Originally posted by BiggerBlue

Originally posted by bluto


Originally posted by Tymkin



sounds like we are all in the same boat.

We are...

...but some deluded fools are polishing the brass on the Titanic

Oh, Mr. "please be nice and kind" on the net is dishing out personal insults.

Where is Popeye when you need him?

The mask is finally off. Another hypocrite exposed. LOL

Anyway Tymkin. If you want to be rational and sane you can join the few of us that have actually work some progress towards Bort's mods. There is no reason to think Bort will screw with the DEs again and this is probably his last major nerf for awhile, so it's worth the time to test out what we've already figured out.

But, on the other hand, you can join the cry babies whiners... er... I mean "less motivated" faces like bluto here that will simply cry... er.. I mean "discuss" that DE should dominate and put up sacks with minimal effort.

Of course I don't get the fact that what do they want from a game like GLB which is trial-and-error, and by the virtue of BETA it means the programmers will constantly change things around. Some seasons it's ok to just major on spd/agi and minor on everything else, but others (like this season) are not. Some seasons all you need is FS and TV SAs, but it seems like this season Bort has rework the algorithm to make Wall, Strong Base, and Shed Block work better.

Finally, these idiotic fools... er... sorry I meant "intellectually challenged" refuse to witness the improvements in play-by-play, but instead will just read the final score and declare: "shit, it's 0 sacks, that means my DE is worthless and Bort's nerf sucks"



umm i watch all the replays and i can say with absolutely certainty that my DE is worthless on passing downs. he's got 70+ base strength and is heavily invested in strong base and shed block, along with 105+ agility and 67 speed. but i guess i'll just watch your DE and figure out what i'm doing wrong.

Fix to bug on acceleration (disallow a negative divisor) where having an extremely high agility score would allow you to accelerate faster than the player's max speed, causing strange jittering and other odd unintented behavior

Larson you need to take some away from agility and add it too speed. When that came out it really affected us high agility DE's.

I would switch it up and try to get 70-80 speed and 80-90 agility.

good info, thanks much.

Originally posted by wlarson
good info, thanks much.

Also, how's your First Step and Tunnel Vision? They need to be high too

Originally posted by iMan
its ALL about First step and Speed this season
i have low agility for a lvl 33 DE and yet i can still get sacks against OT few levels higher/lower than me.

so Speed and First step will do the trick
first cap str will help

According to signal, underdog, and bluto what you just said is impossible. To them it's impossible for any DE to do anything against OT a few lvls higher or lower. So stop lying... LOL

Why are some lazy fools that won't try things around?

Originally posted by BiggerBlue
According to signal, underdog, and bluto what you just said is impossible. To them it's impossible for any DE to do anything against OT a few lvls higher or lower. So stop lying... LOL

Why are some lazy fools that won't try things around?


This season these are some notable players( between 3 levels lower to 3 levels higher) or plays My D.E.( 0 wall 0 strong base) has beaten for sacks. has your guy beaten one player higher level than yours, ever?

KEEP MY NAME OUT OF YOUR MOUTH

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=300958&pbp_id=3500958

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=110926 -2

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=171011 -1

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=257538 -2

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=300935&pbp_id=7316706 - my level 38 D.E. beating a level 40 L.O.T.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=300935&pbp_id=7314122


My D.T.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=618835 -2

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=292196 -2

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=300958&pbp_id=3500415

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=300952&pbp_id=6559897 my personal favorite. MY level 33 DT beating a 42 guard.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=325242 60 over all bar and 60 blocking bar so you can't say it's a bad build

Lets start by taking out 28 sacks against gutted or CPU teams of your 34 sacks all season off the top. you're down to 6.


http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=304624&pbp_id=2416089 here ya go you're beating a level 37 LOT on a screen pass to a h.b. everyone does, even really poorly built ones. this doesn't count. this sack had nothing to do with wall or strong base. It had nothing to do with your build,this is a complete gimmy sack.


http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=304574&pbp_id=5464630 Congrats, your first real sack of the season. against a guy 3 levels higher. i still think you had help since the q.b pretty much ran right into you. But I will give you the benifit of the doubt. I also took the time to notice wall and strong base did nothing on this play. That's one(1) "worthy" sack.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=304657&pbp_id=6998646 here you are beating a level 29 LOT doesn't count. 7 levels lower than you, and i recall you saying a 3 level difference. Plus yet again I didn't notice strong base or wall helping you whatsoever

And here is a LOT you beat 3 times in the game you got 3
obviously a poorly build LOT for his level.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=104881

then you had games, against gutted teams with 7,7, then recently 14.

so basically all in all in 15 regular season games, you have one (1) sack against a quality opponent. That's giving you the benefit of the doubt, because after all, the quarterback ran right into you.

Strong base and wall did nothing for you on any of those sacks, or in any game where you got shut out. You have a poorly built D.E. and It would do the whole GLB community as a whole if you would quit spouting garbage about Wall and strong base, a long with insulting everyone who says anything to you.

imo, its all about speed and FS.
i have ZERO points in containment yet i have a sack in all but one game
my sacks have been spread out evenly
i still have the 2 teams that give up the most sacks in the conference coming up.
hopefully i can snag a sack trophy

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=290622&pbp_id=1522711

I'm pretty sure that's a result of strong base or wall.

I jump the snap fast cause of vision (something underdogs thinks is over rated)
I push em back because of strong base
Then I knock the OT over
and Get the Sack! Hurrah.

Originally posted by direfire
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=290622&pbp_id=1522711

I'm pretty sure that's a result of strong base or wall.

I jump the snap fast cause of vision (something underdogs thinks is over rated)
I push em back because of strong base
Then I knock the OT over
and Get the Sack! Hurrah.

and look at this
48 str, no containment SA, low agility for a lv 33
that is not strong base nor is this
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=316438&pbp_id=11791070

its speed

Alright iMan your right. Everyone stop using different ways to build your DE's. Here is the only build that is successful.

48 Str
68 Spd/Agi
40 Vision

9+ First Step 9+ Tunnel Vision
All equipment in speed.

End of discussion we have found the DE that works this season.

/End Sarcastic Rant.

iMan your DE is good this year. I'm not trying to put your guy down, but quite clearly there is multiple ways to build a DE this year. As my DE was not built very good and is putting up stats this year. Not quite stats like your DE (Difference in Leagues might factor into that) but he is putting up stats and not just vs gutted teams.

BtW those plays are different you try to get around the OT all together and then cut in front of him last minute. My DE actually knocks the OT back and then knocks him out! Also you had a 1 level advantage on your OT. I had a 4 level disadvantage vs my OT. Nice try though.

Originally posted by direfire
Alright iMan your right. Everyone stop using different ways to build your DE's. Here is the only build that is successful.

48 Str
68 Spd/Agi
40 Vision

9+ First Step 9+ Tunnel Vision
All equipment in speed.

End of discussion we have found the DE that works this season.

/End Sarcastic Rant.

iMan your DE is good this year. I'm not trying to put your guy down, but quite clearly there is multiple ways to build a DE this year. As my DE was not built very good and is putting up stats this year. Not quite stats like your DE (Difference in Leagues might factor into that) but he is putting up stats and not just vs gutted teams.

BtW those plays are different you try to get around the OT all together and then cut in front of him last minute. My DE actually knocks the OT back and then knocks him out! Also you had a 1 level advantage on your OT. I had a 4 level disadvantage vs my OT. Nice try though.


my post was a counter argument

Well that's nice my post is just trying to point out there are tons of ways to build a DE and what it really comes down too is. Just build your DE how you want him to play.

Originally posted by UnderDogs
Lets start by taking out 28 sacks against gutted or CPU teams of your 34 sacks all season off the top. you're down to 6.


http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=304624&pbp_id=2416089 here ya go you're beating a level 37 LOT on a screen pass to a h.b. everyone does, even really poorly built ones. this doesn't count. this sack had nothing to do with wall or strong base. It had nothing to do with your build,this is a complete gimmy sack.


http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=304574&pbp_id=5464630 Congrats, your first real sack of the season. against a guy 3 levels higher. i still think you had help since the q.b pretty much ran right into you. But I will give you the benifit of the doubt. I also took the time to notice wall and strong base did nothing on this play. That's one(1) "worthy" sack.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=304657&pbp_id=6998646 here you are beating a level 29 LOT doesn't count. 7 levels lower than you, and i recall you saying a 3 level difference. Plus yet again I didn't notice strong base or wall helping you whatsoever

And here is a LOT you beat 3 times in the game you got 3
obviously a poorly build LOT for his level.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=104881

then you had games, against gutted teams with 7,7, then recently 14.

so basically all in all in 15 regular season games, you have one (1) sack against a quality opponent. That's giving you the benefit of the doubt, because after all, the quarterback ran right into you.

Strong base and wall did nothing for you on any of those sacks, or in any game where you got shut out. You have a poorly built D.E. and It would do the whole GLB community as a whole if you would quit spouting garbage about Wall and strong base, a long with insulting everyone who says anything to you.



the fact that his DE hasn't accomplished anything of note was pointed out to him several days ago (you did the most thorough post on it though...you poor, poor man )

hang on while he actually, finally looks at his own game footage... nope can't find more than a couple of sacks that are even close to being legit against comparable opponents.

Wall and Strong Base may in fact help (direfire actually makes an intersting case...) but obviously the vast, vast majority of sacks we see are spd/agi/tv/fs sacks. how could anyone but a complete fool dispute that?

if facts had any influence on BiggerBlue, he'd have figured out that DEs in season 7 basically are doing the equivalent of bringing knives to a gun fight.

Originally posted by direfire
Well that's nice my post is just trying to point out there are tons of ways to build a DE and what it really comes down too is. Just build your DE how you want him to play.

that was the purpose of my counter argument

Originally posted by BiggerBlue
Originally posted by iMan

its ALL about First step and Speed this season
i have low agility for a lvl 33 DE and yet i can still get sacks against OT few levels higher/lower than me.

so Speed and First step will do the trick
first cap str will help

According to signal, underdog, and bluto what you just said is impossible. To them it's impossible for any DE to do anything against OT a few lvls higher or lower. So stop lying... LOL

Why are some lazy fools that won't try things around?


Why do you act like your the fucking god of DE's? Your sacks are all in meaningless blowouts. Your DE and mine have the same number of meaningful sacks, and I'm really sick of this high and mighty crap your spouting off with every post.