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Originally posted by Air18
Can you comment on my build?

Strength: 50.41 Blocking: 16.69
Speed: 81.65 Tackling: 34.62
Agility: 62.64 Throwing: 9
Jumping: 19.92 Catching: 9
Stamina: 35.77 Carrying: 9
Vision: 29.68 Kicking: 7
Confidence: 24.44 Punting: 7

Containment:
1-1-1-2

Pass:
4-3-3-5-1

I'm about to lv in about 300 xp and I've got one SP saved up which would give me 6. I need 1 more point in speed to get it to a natural 60 (although the lv may give it to me) and my Agility is already a natural 62. I'm probably just going to train vision while I get tunnel vision to at least 8. What do you think?


I think for level 28 you should be much better if going the speed route.

What are the best SAs for a speed rusher right now?

is tunnel vision the one I should increase a lot?

Originally posted by Air18
Can you comment on my build?

Strength: 50.41 Blocking: 16.69
Speed: 81.65 Tackling: 34.62
Agility: 62.64 Throwing: 9
Jumping: 19.92 Catching: 9
Stamina: 35.77 Carrying: 9
Vision: 29.68 Kicking: 7
Confidence: 24.44 Punting: 7

Containment:
1-1-1-2

Pass:
4-3-3-5-1

I'm about to lv in about 300 xp and I've got one SP saved up which would give me 6. I need 1 more point in speed to get it to a natural 60 (although the lv may give it to me) and my Agility is already a natural 62. I'm probably just going to train vision while I get tunnel vision to at least 8. What do you think?


I would recommend getting speed up to a base 68 with your next 24ish SP while training vision. After that I would go back to vision and tunnel vision with your SPs. Your plan is not bad by any means either, and should work just fine if you decide to go that route. It should get you slightly better numbers in the short term, while my plan would make your DE slightly better in the long term.

Originally posted by Darkstrand
What are the best SAs for a speed rusher right now?

is tunnel vision the one I should increase a lot?

Still tunnel vision if you ask me, pending any changes in season 5 of course.

Originally posted by miked33
Originally posted by Darkstrand

What are the best SAs for a speed rusher right now?

is tunnel vision the one I should increase a lot?

Still tunnel vision if you ask me, pending any changes in season 5 of course.

Thanks for your input.

My speed DE isn't going to productive for a while. I went to 2nd caps for speed and agility and vision is in the mid 20s right now. DO you think I should get a few SAs points into tunnel vision or just focus on getting vision up to the soft cap?

I'd like him to get a little production although I've always figured he wouldn't be that productive till the early 20s.

Originally posted by Darkstrand
Originally posted by miked33

Originally posted by Darkstrand


What are the best SAs for a speed rusher right now?

is tunnel vision the one I should increase a lot?

Still tunnel vision if you ask me, pending any changes in season 5 of course.

Thanks for your input.

My speed DE isn't going to productive for a while. I went to 2nd caps for speed and agility and vision is in the mid 20s right now. DO you think I should get a few SAs points into tunnel vision or just focus on getting vision up to the soft cap?

I'd like him to get a little production although I've always figured he wouldn't be that productive till the early 20s.

I would just keep training vision while it's still efficient to train before putting any SPs into it. Tunnel vision will get you more production quicker, but is slightly less efficient long term. It really depends on how important production is to you right now.

Originally posted by DLight03
Originally posted by Air18

Can you comment on my build?

Strength: 50.41 Blocking: 16.69
Speed: 81.65 Tackling: 34.62
Agility: 62.64 Throwing: 9
Jumping: 19.92 Catching: 9
Stamina: 35.77 Carrying: 9
Vision: 29.68 Kicking: 7
Confidence: 24.44 Punting: 7

Containment:
1-1-1-2

Pass:
4-3-3-5-1

I'm about to lv in about 300 xp and I've got one SP saved up which would give me 6. I need 1 more point in speed to get it to a natural 60 (although the lv may give it to me) and my Agility is already a natural 62. I'm probably just going to train vision while I get tunnel vision to at least 8. What do you think?


I think for level 28 you should be much better if going the speed route.

That's the thing, when i created my DE i hadn't heard of the "Speed Route". I went all str until the scientist told me that agility was the key, so then I went all agility. Now that miked33 revealed that speed was a big factor I changed to the speed route.

Strength: 49.81
Speed: 80.02
Tackling: 31.76
Agility: 50.02
Stamina: 32.94
Vision: 31.55
Confidence: 18.14
Blocking: 14.65

Containment 1 1 2 1
Pass Rush 3 3 4 5 1 (custom equipment)
All equipment on speed

How is this for a level 25 RE? I usually like to plan my builds out on paper in 8 level increments and estimated that I could have my speed up to 90 with 16 points left over at level 32. I was thinking I should put it either in agility to get it to 60, shed block/tunnel vision to 5-6 respectively, or first step to 7. What do you think would be the best route MikeD?

I'm also working on training up confidence and blocking this season, I know they're pretty low.

Originally posted by Air18
Originally posted by DLight03

Originally posted by Air18


Can you comment on my build?

Strength: 50.41 Blocking: 16.69
Speed: 81.65 Tackling: 34.62
Agility: 62.64 Throwing: 9
Jumping: 19.92 Catching: 9
Stamina: 35.77 Carrying: 9
Vision: 29.68 Kicking: 7
Confidence: 24.44 Punting: 7

Containment:
1-1-1-2

Pass:
4-3-3-5-1

I'm about to lv in about 300 xp and I've got one SP saved up which would give me 6. I need 1 more point in speed to get it to a natural 60 (although the lv may give it to me) and my Agility is already a natural 62. I'm probably just going to train vision while I get tunnel vision to at least 8. What do you think?


I think for level 28 you should be much better if going the speed route.

That's the thing, when i created my DE i hadn't heard of the "Speed Route". I went all str until the scientist told me that agility was the key, so then I went all agility. Now that miked33 revealed that speed was a big factor I changed to the speed route.

Yeah I know what you're saying. I have a "speed" DE that is at 32, and he's basically the same as yours but better in specials and physical abilities because of 32 equip... and he's not producing.

It's really hard to create an effective speed DE if you start late. You can do it, just don't expect to see results right away. You have a good deal to catch up relative to your level.

Mike... do you think I should just bite the bullet and have my DE be ineffective his first season of capped league and go to were speed and agility become 4:1? He's a little past 3:1 right now.

Originally posted by Darkstrand
Mike... do you think I should just bite the bullet and have my DE be ineffective his first season of capped league and go to were speed and agility become 4:1? He's a little past 3:1 right now.


That is definitely the most effective plan long term It really depends on how long you're willing to wait to start seeing big sack numbers.

Originally posted by DLight03

Yeah I know what you're saying. I have a "speed" DE that is at 32, and he's basically the same as yours but better in specials and physical abilities because of 32 equip... and he's not producing.

It's really hard to create an effective speed DE if you start late. You can do it, just don't expect to see results right away. You have a good deal to catch up relative to your level.

Last season I started off with all my EQ in Agility. Once I switched to speed, about 10 games in, I noticed an immediate improvement in my game. I think I finished with 10 hurries and 6 sacks since I made the switch. Not incredible by any means, but I still made an impact and helped my team.

Is agi>spd viable? Basically I need to know before I purchase regular equipment, and it would involve selling my custom if I needed to change to speed gear.

Mike-My DE has a 77 Speed, 52 strength and 54 agility, with a 37 vision. I have 5 SP after our first regular season game, plus 32 equipment upgrades. Should I add my points to speed, or vision, or agility. My equipment is going speed probably. Here's the thing with my DE:

He plays very fast, but he struggled to get off the line and beat the OT off the snap. Once I got off the block the QB was mine, but I think I could get more sacks if I get off the line faster. Is that more agility needed? More speed/vision?

Originally posted by ZeroTolerance
Is agi>spd viable? Basically I need to know before I purchase regular equipment, and it would involve selling my custom if I needed to change to speed gear.

Agility > speed is most definitely viable, if a little bit inferior to speed imo. Ideally you want to have agility and speed approximately equal base, plus all of your equipment points in speed. I've seen many successful builds that do the same but put their equipmnt into agility instead.

To everyone else, no time to respond right now. I'll get back to as many of you as I can tomorrow.