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Originally posted by brigmar
Originally posted by The Strategy Expert

I'm not contending he's doing anything illegal or cheating in any way, he's just not winning the game or gaining any glory for his accomplishments to the tune of what he thinks he's getting or acts like he's getting or deserves.


Strange.
From my perusals of the boards, I've not seen much of Tim boasting his own achievements.
It's usually the agents on his team that do that.

You, however ...


This isn't about Tim boasting, this is about the quality of his accomplishments, and in my estimation they aren't as glorified as they sound when you look at his place in the standings or see his trophy case or what not, that's just my opinion of what those accomplishments are worth in my estimation.
 
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Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
Originally posted by brigmar
Originally posted by The Strategy Expert

I'm not contending he's doing anything illegal or cheating in any way, he's just not winning the game or gaining any glory for his accomplishments to the tune of what he thinks he's getting or acts like he's getting or deserves.

Strange.
From my perusals of the boards, I've not seen much of Tim boasting his own achievements.
It's usually the agents on his team that do that.

You, however ...

This isn't about Tim boasting, this is about the quality of his accomplishments, and in my estimation they aren't as glorified as they sound when you look at his place in the standings or see his trophy case or what not, that's just my opinion of what those accomplishments are worth in my estimation.


WTF has 'place in the standings' got to do with anything, given that both of you claim that so long as you make the playoffs, regular season means shit?

You might also consider that Harper could care less how you view the accomplishments.
Much like you could about how he views DDL, and by extension, YOUR accomplishments.

Random Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRmLGYSc0XQ
 
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Originally posted by brigmar
Originally posted by The Strategy Expert

Originally posted by brigmar

Originally posted by The Strategy Expert


I'm not contending he's doing anything illegal or cheating in any way, he's just not winning the game or gaining any glory for his accomplishments to the tune of what he thinks he's getting or acts like he's getting or deserves.

Strange.
From my perusals of the boards, I've not seen much of Tim boasting his own achievements.
It's usually the agents on his team that do that.

You, however ...

This isn't about Tim boasting, this is about the quality of his accomplishments, and in my estimation they aren't as glorified as they sound when you look at his place in the standings or see his trophy case or what not, that's just my opinion of what those accomplishments are worth in my estimation.


WTF has 'place in the standings' got to do with anything, given that both of you claim that so long as you make the playoffs, regular season means shit?

You might also consider that Harper could care less how you view the accomplishments.
Much like you could about how he views DDL, and by extension, YOUR accomplishments.

Random Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRmLGYSc0XQ


Regular season standings is just an example for illustration purposes for the comment I made.

Fine, substitute it for " x-variable of something that has quantitative or qualitative value in terms of an accomplishment ".

There are many of these, I just picked one at randome, which one is irrelevant for the discussion purposes, it's just a place holder flavor.
 
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Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
Originally posted by teamjumpman


You promised me the starting gig and PT and I ended up playing like 30 plays a game. Asked to be released and you traded me because you wanted VALUE back. You lied to me and then used me to get something because you didnt want to release me. After that i got traded 4 more times because I wouldnt resign with the teams. It was aseason from hell.


Well that's a bold faced lie...

You were the starter every game you were here. Second, you never even brought this reason up until now, which is false, the ONLY thing you said at the time was that you didn't like "how I played the game". Those were your exact words and it took 2 days to get even that response from you, you never once sent me a PM with any indication you were unhappy and you didnt reply to MY PMs when I received info from other owners that said you wanted out.

The play log doesnt lie, anybody can look it up. You were here for 3 games, the first game you were the only human SS on the roster, the 2nd game you got 73 plays, and the 3rd game we had Dinkin Jones and he got less plays than you did but he only came here to replace a CPU SS that was your previous backup.

GAME 1: You got 41 plays as the only human SS. We only had one human FS and he only got 31 plays! You still got more work outside of your defense duties than even he did as the only human opposite you.

GAME 2: 73 plays

GAME 3: 35 plays, but that was after you initiated the trade request, I remember because I posted in our forum and discussed how we had a guy wanting to get out but I was still putting you on the field rather than just flat out benching you, so your basis for wanting to get out was only after those 2 games in which you had 114 plays, or 57 per game. You also got more plays than the other SS I picked up to replace you, and that guy only replaced the CPU SS so you still got more play time than him.

But either way you had owners PMing me for a trade after only 2 games with the 57 plays per game average.


What about when I got benched the fourth game as you can see I didnt play in week eight. Which would bring my total down to 30. And I still stand by that i dont like the way you play the game. Telling people things and selling them off.

 
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Originally posted by teamjumpman


You almost got beat by Dark lotus so I would shut your trap. Dark Lotus is 4-9 and are a ways from being a complete team. And your excuse for that game was we had bad tactics well that means you dont know how to gameplan and since then you have lost two. I think they exposed you guys. And nobodys afraid of the Demon Lions



We didn't even gameplan for lotus.

We've lost 2 games, yes. One was a Mustangs team and another to a half-boosted team. I think we're in a pretty good position. Have you forgotten we have beaten the Pushovers and Kalamazoo? Are you trying to say they aren't good?

Get over yourself. Ever since you left DDL (by your own choosing) you've been nothing but a whimpering little baby about it.

Face it -- should we meet you guys in the playoffs be prepared for your 1st round exit.




Wheres whimpering. Its pretty safe to say that this is about the only time Ive ever posted ask Sam and anybody else I play with. So your saying your going to take out the Warpath or the Mustangs cause last I checked I have two players going to the playoffs.
 
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Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
Originally posted by bolstersam

I understand where TSE is coming from. It is hard just to release a good player, teamjumpman, and get nothing at all back. It's pretty much a waste of money and chemistry. But I also understand where you are coming from. Saying you want released.

It really just depends on thw owner.


Uhhh no, he didnt say he wanted a release or a trade, he said NOTHING and he ignored my PMs. Not a good way to communicate when you make up a FALSE reason for why you wanted to be traded and you first tell me about it 2 seasons later! lol



That is bullshit io asked to be released and you asked what was wrong.
I responded with I either want to be released or traded to one of the teams another of my players were on and you wouldnt do it because you werent getting your value out of me. You were being stuborn. i accused you of playing God because you wanted to contol evreything and it got nasty. So I ignored your pm because you would nt trade me even after the team was willing to give you something in return. Does this sound familar

 
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Originally posted by HoggLife



Well we did win so he doesnt have to talk about that cause I am but his player did get an INT on you guys and he is unboosted

Are we sure he got an INT? I better check the stat sheet, he does have a propensity for lying, brb...

Ok yeah he's telling the truth, he did get it. But ya never know with guys like this.


You should be the one to talk. I never said anything about you that was not true.

Sorry for posting so many in row guys dont know what has gotten into me.
 
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That is bullshit io asked to be released and you asked what was wrong.
I responded with I either want to be released or traded to one of the teams another of my players were on and you wouldnt do it because you werent getting your value out of me. You were being stuborn. i accused you of playing God because you wanted to contol evreything and it got nasty. So I ignored your pm because you would nt trade me even after the team was willing to give you something in return. Does this sound familar



Lies. I sent you at least 5 PMs that NEVER got returned to this day.

IN FACT, you still owe me a reply, so I'm still waiting on your response to those messages.

Also, there you go I asked why, you never gave me a why, UNTIL this thread. And your reason makes no sense cause obviously I've proven you had fantastic play time. If you didn't you would have sent me ONE message saying, coach why don't I have much play time?

You NEVER once said you were unhappy before I got a message from Sprovo saying you wanted traded.

You are being very deceitful here, but whatever.
 
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Originally posted by teamjumpman


What about when I got benched the fourth game as you can see I didnt play in week eight. Which would bring my total down to 30. And I still stand by that i dont like the way you play the game. Telling people things and selling them off.



This was AFTER the BS you created. I also informed my team of MULTIPLE reasons why I was going to bench you, I didnt want it to come to that but you left me no choice.
 
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^^^^^^^^ Sounds like TSE can explain the reasons why so many players have hated him that have been on his team and he can explain why he looses every time. Does anyone see that unless it praises TSE for not ever doing a damn thing in the Pros and praising him for being such a great owner and all his great wins he will just give you reasons for why bad things keep going his way????? He NEVER owns up for anything he does wrong or for any of his losses. TSE you are a sad sad man that you just cant admit your failures bud. In your eyes you should have an undefested team by now but how come you dont????? Hummmmmmmm??????????
 
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Originally posted by HoggLife
so many players have hated him


2 players? And with shady stories to go with them?

 
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Originally posted by Doc
Originally posted by HoggLife

so many players have hated him


2 players? And with shady stories to go with them?



Still more excuses. He even has his peasants brainwashed to make excuses for everything! Man up bitches!
 
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I forget who it was but when I posted I wanted to be released or traded and gave you my reasons so one else on the team sent me a Pm and said that he agreed wiyth me 100% and that if it didnt change he was going to be asked to be traded. Anyway Im done trying to prove to this little thing of non-importance I'm just trying to put you in your place. GL the rest of the way TSE. I will see you in the playoffs im sure.
 
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You never posted or PMd that you wanted a release until more than a day after the trade offers started coming in. You have failed MISERABLY in putting me in my place. Your wishes are rejected, I don't accept them from liars and deceivers, get lost.
 
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Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
You never posted or PMd that you wanted a release until more than a day after the trade offers started coming in. You have failed MISERABLY in putting me in my place. Your wishes are rejected, I don't accept them from liars and deceivers, get lost.


Ya but you are the one with all the excuses why players hate you, why your team loses, why you like dong over pu-nanny. Excuses excuses. Just man up dude!
 
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