Warrior General Games

Originally posted by yello1
Originally posted by reddogrw

Originally posted by yello1


Originally posted by reddogrw



Originally posted by yello1




Originally posted by hatchman





yello1 you continue to think your way and the rest of GLB will continue to think their way on this. your only defense to all the points that have been given is that you are only referring to National Pro. yet in another thread you have spoken that all of your suggestions are for the betterment of GLB as a whole. well you have basically proved yourself to bend the truth to try to help your own cause here. there are alot more leagues than National Pro and if your suggestion were implemented by some stupid reasoning. then it wouldn't only affect National Pro it would affect every league.

so if you were telling the truth and your suggestion is to help all of GLB. then your suggestion here has been shot down on multiple levels. now if you were trying to sell a load of bull like I figure you are. then you will come back with yet another argument to try to make people see things your way. and that essentially is you just trying to help yourself and not the whole GLB community.

so what is it going to be:
a.) you drop this defeated suggestion and move onto something else or
b.) you continue to argue and show all of us that this suggestion was made to try to help you and not all of GLB.

You logic is flawed once again.

National Pro is the center piece of GLB. Improving Natty Pro IS improving GLB.

There are enough differences between Natty Pro and the rest of the leagues that an improvement might be best for Natty and not necessarily for the Minors, and vice versa.

And where I actually had agreed with you is that some contraction is a good thing if the level of CPUs in a league level is enough to close a whole league (ie Reg Pro #69 etc).

But its not okay for National Pro. The day you start contracting the National Pro leagues is the day you start the timer to GLBs demise.

CPU gaps in the Natty Pro should be filled by adding owners, for example letting the people with a demonstrated desire to buy teams buy them with less restraints. That would be good for ALL of GLB.

So your effort to paint my statements as contradictory is what we in the internet cool set call Phail!!!!

they should have killed off one National Pro League when they added WL - there are 9 National Pro and above leagues now - kill off one National Pro league and you are back to the 8 top level leagues that existed before WL

or they could promote out of the regional pro elite leagues until National Pro is filled up

There are not enough CPU teams in National Pro to warrant that. No where near the 32 of a whole league.

And IMO National Pro is the primary goal of the game. and that should be as big a community as you can make it, otherwise players may feel it is unattainable and give up on the game.



Between CPU and crappy teams, there are more than enough to drop a pro league

Arguably, sure. But who are you, or anyone, to say someone is too bad to be in the bigs? The NFL is not filled with 32 Super Bowl Contenders, after all. And two teams have to be demoted each season to maintain the circulation anyway. So having some bad teams in Natty Pro is not a bad thing.

And more practically, when you tell those 1-55 players on the 12 or so teams you are axing out of natty pro that they suck too much to be in the big leagues, what do you really expect all those agents are going to feel about Bort and GLB afterwards?

A move like that is going to cost him customers, PDQ.

And worse a contraction like that sends a message of decay and player loss across the community that shrinks business even more.

So no, I would not think its a good idea. Bort should not do that till its all over and hes trying to just keep a cadre of players around to keep him in beer money.

IMO anyway.

go through the pre-season game 4 link for each league - look at all the teams that lost by 100+ - many of those are all CPU teams owned by someone

having those teams in Natty Pro serve zero purpose

more players!

Originally posted by reddogrw
Originally posted by yello1

Originally posted by reddogrw


Originally posted by yello1



Originally posted by reddogrw




Originally posted by yello1





Originally posted by hatchman






yello1 you continue to think your way and the rest of GLB will continue to think their way on this. your only defense to all the points that have been given is that you are only referring to National Pro. yet in another thread you have spoken that all of your suggestions are for the betterment of GLB as a whole. well you have basically proved yourself to bend the truth to try to help your own cause here. there are alot more leagues than National Pro and if your suggestion were implemented by some stupid reasoning. then it wouldn't only affect National Pro it would affect every league.

so if you were telling the truth and your suggestion is to help all of GLB. then your suggestion here has been shot down on multiple levels. now if you were trying to sell a load of bull like I figure you are. then you will come back with yet another argument to try to make people see things your way. and that essentially is you just trying to help yourself and not the whole GLB community.

so what is it going to be:
a.) you drop this defeated suggestion and move onto something else or
b.) you continue to argue and show all of us that this suggestion was made to try to help you and not all of GLB.

You logic is flawed once again.

National Pro is the center piece of GLB. Improving Natty Pro IS improving GLB.

There are enough differences between Natty Pro and the rest of the leagues that an improvement might be best for Natty and not necessarily for the Minors, and vice versa.

And where I actually had agreed with you is that some contraction is a good thing if the level of CPUs in a league level is enough to close a whole league (ie Reg Pro #69 etc).

But its not okay for National Pro. The day you start contracting the National Pro leagues is the day you start the timer to GLBs demise.

CPU gaps in the Natty Pro should be filled by adding owners, for example letting the people with a demonstrated desire to buy teams buy them with less restraints. That would be good for ALL of GLB.

So your effort to paint my statements as contradictory is what we in the internet cool set call Phail!!!!

they should have killed off one National Pro League when they added WL - there are 9 National Pro and above leagues now - kill off one National Pro league and you are back to the 8 top level leagues that existed before WL

or they could promote out of the regional pro elite leagues until National Pro is filled up

There are not enough CPU teams in National Pro to warrant that. No where near the 32 of a whole league.

And IMO National Pro is the primary goal of the game. and that should be as big a community as you can make it, otherwise players may feel it is unattainable and give up on the game.



Between CPU and crappy teams, there are more than enough to drop a pro league

Arguably, sure. But who are you, or anyone, to say someone is too bad to be in the bigs? The NFL is not filled with 32 Super Bowl Contenders, after all. And two teams have to be demoted each season to maintain the circulation anyway. So having some bad teams in Natty Pro is not a bad thing.

And more practically, when you tell those 1-55 players on the 12 or so teams you are axing out of natty pro that they suck too much to be in the big leagues, what do you really expect all those agents are going to feel about Bort and GLB afterwards?

A move like that is going to cost him customers, PDQ.

And worse a contraction like that sends a message of decay and player loss across the community that shrinks business even more.

So no, I would not think its a good idea. Bort should not do that till its all over and hes trying to just keep a cadre of players around to keep him in beer money.

IMO anyway.

go through the pre-season game 4 link for each league - look at all the teams that lost by 100+ - many of those are all CPU teams owned by someone

having those teams in Natty Pro serve zero purpose

Only because of the CPU nerf. Last season those teams were competitive if not contenders (Devon won its leagues Conference game before being promoed even).

I imagine those teams will be manning up next season, if they avoid demotion.

But yes. CPU only is not an option now. Have to have players which is what my OP is all about.

Originally posted by joesox
more players!


Which is the point. How do you improve the game to retain more players that we have now and improve word of mouth to get new players to join.

I suggest having as many teams owned rather than CPU as possible is one step that will help.

Originally posted by yello1
Originally posted by reddogrw

Originally posted by yello1


Originally posted by reddogrw



Originally posted by yello1




Originally posted by reddogrw





Originally posted by yello1






Originally posted by hatchman







yello1 you continue to think your way and the rest of GLB will continue to think their way on this. your only defense to all the points that have been given is that you are only referring to National Pro. yet in another thread you have spoken that all of your suggestions are for the betterment of GLB as a whole. well you have basically proved yourself to bend the truth to try to help your own cause here. there are alot more leagues than National Pro and if your suggestion were implemented by some stupid reasoning. then it wouldn't only affect National Pro it would affect every league.

so if you were telling the truth and your suggestion is to help all of GLB. then your suggestion here has been shot down on multiple levels. now if you were trying to sell a load of bull like I figure you are. then you will come back with yet another argument to try to make people see things your way. and that essentially is you just trying to help yourself and not the whole GLB community.

so what is it going to be:
a.) you drop this defeated suggestion and move onto something else or
b.) you continue to argue and show all of us that this suggestion was made to try to help you and not all of GLB.

You logic is flawed once again.

National Pro is the center piece of GLB. Improving Natty Pro IS improving GLB.

There are enough differences between Natty Pro and the rest of the leagues that an improvement might be best for Natty and not necessarily for the Minors, and vice versa.

And where I actually had agreed with you is that some contraction is a good thing if the level of CPUs in a league level is enough to close a whole league (ie Reg Pro #69 etc).

But its not okay for National Pro. The day you start contracting the National Pro leagues is the day you start the timer to GLBs demise.

CPU gaps in the Natty Pro should be filled by adding owners, for example letting the people with a demonstrated desire to buy teams buy them with less restraints. That would be good for ALL of GLB.

So your effort to paint my statements as contradictory is what we in the internet cool set call Phail!!!!

they should have killed off one National Pro League when they added WL - there are 9 National Pro and above leagues now - kill off one National Pro league and you are back to the 8 top level leagues that existed before WL

or they could promote out of the regional pro elite leagues until National Pro is filled up

There are not enough CPU teams in National Pro to warrant that. No where near the 32 of a whole league.

And IMO National Pro is the primary goal of the game. and that should be as big a community as you can make it, otherwise players may feel it is unattainable and give up on the game.



Between CPU and crappy teams, there are more than enough to drop a pro league

Arguably, sure. But who are you, or anyone, to say someone is too bad to be in the bigs? The NFL is not filled with 32 Super Bowl Contenders, after all. And two teams have to be demoted each season to maintain the circulation anyway. So having some bad teams in Natty Pro is not a bad thing.

And more practically, when you tell those 1-55 players on the 12 or so teams you are axing out of natty pro that they suck too much to be in the big leagues, what do you really expect all those agents are going to feel about Bort and GLB afterwards?

A move like that is going to cost him customers, PDQ.

And worse a contraction like that sends a message of decay and player loss across the community that shrinks business even more.

So no, I would not think its a good idea. Bort should not do that till its all over and hes trying to just keep a cadre of players around to keep him in beer money.

IMO anyway.

go through the pre-season game 4 link for each league - look at all the teams that lost by 100+ - many of those are all CPU teams owned by someone

having those teams in Natty Pro serve zero purpose

Only because of the CPU nerf. Last season those teams were competitive if not contenders (Devon won its leagues Conference game before being promoed even).

I imagine those teams will be manning up next season, if they avoid demotion.

But yes. CPU only is not an option now. Have to have players which is what my OP is all about.

Quote pyramid ban then?

Originally posted by yello1
Tell that to George Bush.

But as to GLB I am neither stupid nor a dictator.

Course Bort said you all were wrong on many of my subjects, and implemented them (probably without seeing my thread but still). You may think hes stupid for that, though you would be wrong. But he is certainly in this environ a dictator, however much he may be reliant upon the public good will.

thanks for proving my point.
There is has been maybe 1 thing you suggested that b ort put into place(after some adjustments to it)
But I sure you will take credit on a lot of them.

You are to easy

Holy quote pyramids, Batman.

Originally posted by ron2288
Originally posted by yello1

Tell that to George Bush.

But as to GLB I am neither stupid nor a dictator.

Course Bort said you all were wrong on many of my subjects, and implemented them (probably without seeing my thread but still). You may think hes stupid for that, though you would be wrong. But he is certainly in this environ a dictator, however much he may be reliant upon the public good will.

thanks for proving my point.
There is has been maybe 1 thing you suggested that b ort put into place(after some adjustments to it)
But I sure you will take credit on a lot of them.

You are to easy

Puhleeze way more than one. More than one just this month.

Originally posted by reddogrw


Originally posted by yello1



Originally posted by reddogrw




Originally posted by yello1





Originally posted by reddogrw






Originally posted by yello1







Originally posted by hatchman








yello1 you continue to think your way and the rest of GLB will continue to think their way on this. your only defense to all the points that have been given is that you are only referring to National Pro. yet in another thread you have spoken that all of your suggestions are for the betterment of GLB as a whole. well you have basically proved yourself to bend the truth to try to help your own cause here. there are alot more leagues than National Pro and if your suggestion were implemented by some stupid reasoning. then it wouldn't only affect National Pro it would affect every league.

so if you were telling the truth and your suggestion is to help all of GLB. then your suggestion here has been shot down on multiple levels. now if you were trying to sell a load of bull like I figure you are. then you will come back with yet another argument to try to make people see things your way. and that essentially is you just trying to help yourself and not the whole GLB community.

so what is it going to be:
a.) you drop this defeated suggestion and move onto something else or
b.) you continue to argue and show all of us that this suggestion was made to try to help you and not all of GLB.

You logic is flawed once again.

National Pro is the center piece of GLB. Improving Natty Pro IS improving GLB.

There are enough differences between Natty Pro and the rest of the leagues that an improvement might be best for Natty and not necessarily for the Minors, and vice versa.

And where I actually had agreed with you is that some contraction is a good thing if the level of CPUs in a league level is enough to close a whole league (ie Reg Pro #69 etc).

But its not okay for National Pro. The day you start contracting the National Pro leagues is the day you start the timer to GLBs demise.

CPU gaps in the Natty Pro should be filled by adding owners, for example letting the people with a demonstrated desire to buy teams buy them with less restraints. That would be good for ALL of GLB.

So your effort to paint my statements as contradictory is what we in the internet cool set call Phail!!!!

they should have killed off one National Pro League when they added WL - there are 9 National Pro and above leagues now - kill off one National Pro league and you are back to the 8 top level leagues that existed before WL

or they could promote out of the regional pro elite leagues until National Pro is filled up

There are not enough CPU teams in National Pro to warrant that. No where near the 32 of a whole league.

And IMO National Pro is the primary goal of the game. and that should be as big a community as you can make it, otherwise players may feel it is unattainable and give up on the game.



Between CPU and crappy teams, there are more than enough to drop a pro league

Arguably, sure. But who are you, or anyone, to say someone is too bad to be in the bigs? The NFL is not filled with 32 Super Bowl Contenders, after all. And two teams have to be demoted each season to maintain the circulation anyway. So having some bad teams in Natty Pro is not a bad thing.

And more practically, when you tell those 1-55 players on the 12 or so teams you are axing out of natty pro that they suck too much to be in the big leagues, what do you really expect all those agents are going to feel about Bort and GLB afterwards?

A move like that is going to cost him customers, PDQ.

And worse a contraction like that sends a message of decay and player loss across the community that shrinks business even more.

So no, I would not think its a good idea. Bort should not do that till its all over and hes trying to just keep a cadre of players around to keep him in beer money.

IMO anyway.

go through the pre-season game 4 link for each league - look at all the teams that lost by 100+ - many of those are all CPU teams owned by someone

having those teams in Natty Pro serve zero purpose

Only because of the CPU nerf. Last season those teams were competitive if not contenders (Devon won its leagues Conference game before being promoed even).

I imagine those teams will be manning up next season, if they avoid demotion.

But yes. CPU only is not an option now. Have to have players which is what my OP is all about.

Quote pyramid ban then?

Hey I didn't start it. Don't even know how.

Originally posted by yello1
Puhleeze way more than one. More than one just this month.

Then you woke up wet from the dream you was having.

Originally posted by yello1
Only because of the CPU nerf. Last season those teams were competitive if not contenders (Devon won its leagues Conference game before being promoed even).

I imagine those teams will be manning up next season, if they avoid demotion.

But yes. CPU only is not an option now. Have to have players which is what my OP is all about.

Quote pyramid ban then?

Hey I didn't start it. [Don't even know how.

You did not know how, but yet you did it.

Man you making yourself look more and more like a self righteous hypocrite

Originally posted by ron2288
Originally posted by yello1

Only because of the CPU nerf. Last season those teams were competitive if not contenders (Devon won its leagues Conference game before being promoed even).

I imagine those teams will be manning up next season, if they avoid demotion.

But yes. CPU only is not an option now. Have to have players which is what my OP is all about.

Quote pyramid ban then?

Hey I didn't start it. [Don't even know how.

You did not know how, but yet you did it.

Man you making yourself look more and more like a self righteous hypocrite

All I do is hit reply, if it stacks quotes it does if it don't it don't. I have not taken the time to be saavy on the nuances of the forum code.

Originally posted by ron2288
Originally posted by yello1

Puhleeze way more than one. More than one just this month.

Then you woke up wet from the dream you was having.


The following are all updates from this month and all things I have posted about on this forum.

- Reduced pump fake chance by a little in general, and catch fake chance specifically vs zone defenders (mid day patch)
- Updated blocking decision order of operations for run blocking to fix some wrong decisions vs certain blitzes (mid day patch)
- Increased deflection/int chance in general by a little bit, especially for double+ coverage (mid day patch)
- Updated zone coverage logic to better cover and hand off players coming into and out of zone, and give zone defenders a small natural bonus to interceptions and deflections (mid day patch)
- Added head fake/juke icons on route running
- Human owned teams with more than 10 CPUs now have a penalty to CPU player strength for each CPU over 10 (up to 25% penalty)

Originally posted by yello1
Originally posted by ron2288

Originally posted by yello1


Puhleeze way more than one. More than one just this month.

Then you woke up wet from the dream you was having.


The following are all updates from this month and all things I have posted about on this forum.

- Reduced pump fake chance by a little in general, and catch fake chance specifically vs zone defenders (mid day patch)
- Updated blocking decision order of operations for run blocking to fix some wrong decisions vs certain blitzes (mid day patch)
- Increased deflection/int chance in general by a little bit, especially for double+ coverage (mid day patch)
- Updated zone coverage logic to better cover and hand off players coming into and out of zone, and give zone defenders a small natural bonus to interceptions and deflections (mid day patch)
- Added head fake/juke icons on route running
- Human owned teams with more than 10 CPUs now have a penalty to CPU player strength for each CPU over 10 (up to 25% penalty)


there is a huge difference in posting in a thread and actually making the suggestion. come on and stop trying to stroke your little ego. it is getting sort of tiring hearing you try to toot your own horn so much.

12 pages now... has anyone actually supported this terrible idea (outside of those who did to encourage yello to foolishly defend this awful idea)?