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Originally posted by purehatred
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I wouldn't say that TSE is a liar per se
More like intentionally obtuse


eh, hes repeatedly said he had no intention of deceiving anyone.

So is he lying about that too? Oh what a web we weave...


Well her adjective is more of a subjective claim, and if I was obtuse, I might not be shrewd enough to distinguish that I'm obtuse, so it is theoretically possible that I could be obtuse, so I can't automatically refute her supposition.
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Originally posted by purehatred
I can't even look at you w/o emobear btw.

Yeah, it's freaking me out, tbh.
 
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Originally posted by The Strategy Expert

Well her adjective is more of a subjective claim, and if I was obtuse, I might not be shrewd enough to distinguish that I'm obtuse, so it is theoretically possible that I could be obtuse, so I can't automatically refute her supposition.


You might not be smart enough to KNOW if you're being obtuse? SO are you or aren't you? Smart enough? Because someone who's not smart enough to know they're being obtuse is usually just dumb.

if so: ffa ftw imo

 
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I'm not part of the USA Pro in anyway but I feel the need to post here.

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Originally posted by davitrav30

Originally posted by bolstersam


Originally posted by davitrav30



Originally posted by bolstersam




Go demand them from USA AA first. We don't want to completely destroy your team...


Haha ! Now were talking ! I luv me some smack talk !


Haha I would hit ya with a couple more but your in USA A which is sort of like picking on a third grader.

Edit: and from all things statistical we're swimming way out of our league, of course though they said we'd never get here either.

bottom line you would get killed here.


So none of the Pro teams have boosted yet ?


We haven't and most of the other "Good" ones didn't either


We can all agree that, the above, is the starting point of the thread.


Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
Originally posted by bolstersam

The only top team that actually has is the daggers... the others like DDL pushovers k-zoo and mustangs have not.


We are boosted.


Simply the phrase "We are boosted", "We" meaning more than one and mostly used to describe a team as a whole and "are" meaning currently and "boosted" to most GLB-ers as meaning fully boosted. It would be safe to assume that this could be misconstrued to mean the team has fully boosted.

The fault was with the statement. This leads people is ask why the statement was made. If there had been a voluntary admission that this statement was badly written and could be misunderstood after it was clearly shown that people misread it then we wouldn't have reached this point. This was a second error

Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
Originally posted by Jed

The one where you're going to claim you boosting players means "we've boosted"? That's only true for very small values of "we."


What are you talking about, small values of we? LOL

There's only 1 team here, which is the "we" I had referenced. And yes, "we", the team, have boosted.


Rather than simply correct the error this was posted. Stating the "TEAM" have boosted. Strengthening the belief that the whole "TEAM" had boosted.

Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
Well for one, how do you have secret info from the mods and why? So if you aren't going to name names or details, then it sounds like you are making it up.

And for two, the chart proved that my team had boosted in fact. Apparently you didn't read it very carefully where the chart showed at least one player did in fact boost.


Forgive me if I am wrong because I am very confused but are you actually saying that because at least one player boosted then the "TEAM" boosted?

Why didn't you say "At least one of my players has boosted." It would have cleared up a lot of this thread and clarified your position.

Please clarify this for me because as an outsider to the USA Pro I am very confused as to what is going on here.

p.s. I have a British accent too

 
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Tremendous. When you say "charade" does it come out "shuh -rad"?
 
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Originally posted by Vawn
Sane, rational post

Yeah, you're not welcome in this thread. Sorry.
 
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Originally posted by Asheme


See...better with the bear?
 
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Originally posted by purehatred
See...better with the bear?

Truth. I had a momentary lapse of sanity. Which can be the only reason I've even remained in this twilight zone of a thread.
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Originally posted by Vawn
I'm not part of the USA Pro in anyway but I feel the need to post here.

Oh I clarified this just a few posts back. It should be obvious to anybody that clicked on our roster that we weren't fully boosted, and the fact that I didn't say we were "fully boosted" should have been a dead giveaway that we were not.

Also, when people talk to other teams and other players about being "fully boosted" late in the year, that's how they refer to it!..."Hey, Mr. LB, do you have any boosts left or are your fully boosted?". Or a general post in the team forum "HEY, who is not fully boosted, make sure you use up your boosts". Or from a friendly team chatting with another, "hey did you fully boost yet?".

And the reason I didn't get specific was because all I wanted to do was set the record straight that we weren't "unboosted". I didn't want to bring a lot of attention to people scoping out our team and knowing our boosting plans of who and how many we decided to boost. Too late for that now, but that was the plan was to be discrete and clear up the misinformation and then to get out quietly.

And the term "we" have boosted. All it says is we as a team have boosted. We have 40+ players each with 3 boosts, so we have 120 total boosts and we boosted. Whether we boosted, 1, or 5, or 20, or 120, we boosted. End of story.

I shouldn't have any obligation to quantify it further than that. Just wanted to undo the misinformation so people didn't think we were trying to take extra credit for big wins in the first 2 games with the illusion that we hadn't boosted up, which we did. And it wasn't just 1 or 2 players, it was at least a significant amount of players.
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Originally posted by purehatred
Tremendous. When you say "charade" does it come out "shuh -rad"?


It's more "shuh - raid" but I could be wrong. I've been saying it for the past minute to see if I'm right. I'll say it on the next Sunday show and you can tell me if I'm right.

I prefer saying the expression "hoist by one’s own petard".

For the unfamiliar
http://www.bartleby.com/59/4/hoistbyoneso.html

Very oldie english expression.
 
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Originally posted by Vawn
I prefer saying the expression "hoist by one’s own petard".




Again, tremendous. I may have to call in.
 
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Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
Originally posted by Vawn

I'm not part of the USA Pro in anyway but I feel the need to post here.

Oh I clarified this just a few posts back. It should be obvious to anybody that clicked on our roster that we weren't fully boosted, and the fact that I didn't say we were "fully boosted" should have been a dead giveaway that we were not.

Also, when people talk to other teams and other players about being "fully boosted" late in the year, that's how they refer to it!..."Hey, Mr. LB, do you have any boosts left or are your fully boosted?". Or a general post in the team forum "HEY, who is not fully boosted, make sure you use up your boosts". Or from a friendly team chatting with another, "hey did you fully boost yet?".

And the reason I didn't get specific was because all I wanted to do was set the record straight that we weren't "unboosted". I didn't want to bring a lot of attention to people scoping out our team and knowing our boosting plans of who and how many we decided to boost. Too late for that now, but that was the plan was to be discrete and clear up the misinformation and then to get out quietly.

And the term "we" have boosted. All it says is we as a team have boosted. We have 40+ players each with 3 boosts, so we have 120 total boosts and we boosted. Whether we boosted, 1, or 5, or 20, or 120, we boosted. End of story.

I shouldn't have any obligation to quantify it further than that. Just wanted to undo the misinformation so people didn't think we were trying to take extra credit for big wins in the first 2 games with the illusion that we hadn't boosted up, which we did. And it wasn't just 1 or 2 players, it was at least a significant amount of players.


Thank you for replying to my query.

Wouldn't the sentence "Some of our players have boosted" been a more efficient way of providing this information. From my limited experience with you TSE, I have found you very precise in your speech and the information you provide.

Can you see how people would fine this apparent lapse in that trend odd? I have to admit that I find it very unlike the TSE I have come in to contact with and thus very strange indeed.

I still wonder why, when the statement was questioned in the first place you didn't just set it straight then since the aim of your original post was clarity? To clear up the original issue with a mundane statement seems a bit counter intuitive and can lead to this kind of paradox. Don't you agree?

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Originally posted by Vawn

Thank you for replying to my query.

Wouldn't the sentence "Some of our players have boosted"

Well all I did was something very simple, and again I could have said "one" or "some" or "several" players, but I didn't want to allude to ANYTHING specific whatsoever as to what boosting strategy decisions were being made.

Then BAM, Jed slaps a comment accusing my statement of being a lie, so I replied and asked him to "check his facts" before saying something like that and insinuating that somebody is a liar. I don't know how much clearer I could get without giving a specific answer, but he and everybody else CHOSE to ignore my suggestion of actually checking FACTS and all of a sudden I'm getting mobbed by people with irrational and illogical posts, and it just became trying to fend them off one by one.

I'm not going to let somebody call me out on doing something wrong without proof and extending negative connotations about who I am and what my ethics are. Those are fighting words, and if you are going to try and get nasty, and rude, and illogical, and debase, well then you are going to get thrashed by me. My principles are strong and they will not stand for this type of shameful behavior.
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Originally posted by The Strategy Expert

I'm not going to let somebody call me out


I can understand that.

It's just the TSE I know is very thoughtful of his words, so I just find this situation very odd.

Oh well I'll quote an early post and make my exit.

Originally posted by Asheme
Originally posted by Vawn

Sane, rational post

Yeah, you're not welcome in this thread. Sorry.




 
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Originally posted by Vawn

I can understand that.

It's just the TSE I know is very thoughtful of his words, so I just find this situation very odd.


True that. I try very hard not to say stupid things, I'm a man of my word, and I stand by everything I say.

And I try equally as hard to be very courteous and respectful to people that show it to me, or earn it, or deserve it, or when they don't say stupid things that don't make any sense.
 
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