Warrior General Games

Originally posted by FairForever
Originally posted by Joebarber

Originally posted by FairForever



Is it because you guys can't beat teams in your own leagues?

Pretty much, I'd say.

If we weren't undefeated with a win against a team in the "top 64" that statement would make sense...but it doesn't.

Try again

2-0 FTW? LOL!

Sure, you can beat one top 64 team. Too bad we'll never find out if you could beat the best teams out there, because you backed out.

Or a 12 game win streak...you know whatever...

We have already said we would play any team who wanted to, we just don't want anything to do with the garbage tourney. But then again I think you may have a reading problem because you can't comprehend that.

Originally posted by Commander
lolcobrakai

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Any tourny made by anyone but bort is going to have serious flaws. We'll participate but take it with a grain of salt.

I don't get why some of these almighty Pro teams don't want to be in this. It's not like your guys will be drained of energy or get hurt. It doesn't take that long to create a gameplan either.

Originally posted by ImTheScientist
Yes I do think we are one of the Top 5 teams in GLB. I have a couple ideas. 1) Would be to have the people choose the matchups. It would be games people want to see ... maybe the Kai vs Pimps or Kai vs Mustangs for example. Another option would be to take records/winning streak/and other things into consideration. Set up a BCS style system.

I'm picturing a The Quick and the Dead style competition here

I think you'll end up with knowing the top team pretty well that way, but you won't get much of a feel for the 2nd-64th ranked teams that way. And if you're using a BCS-style system, you'll need to have a coach's poll (which will be just as biased as someone setting up a tourney like this) and/or have a formula, which we know doesn't 100% work or the BCS system would have turned completely to that.

Also, you mention people picking their own matchups. That doesn't seem like it will prove much of anything unless the field is somehow narrowed down first to the top X teams to compete. And then we're back to what you, kalkmanc, and others are complaining about the most: the system to pick the teams.

So until I see a system by you or someone else which I really think will be more fair and less opinionated, I'm still supporting this one. I would still love to hear ideas on how to do this better. Personally, the only thing I see done wrong here is the fact that the teams were decided and then there's a big gap before it starts. There's most likely going to have to be some big changes in it by the time it actually gets going, since teams will have changed quite a bit.

Originally posted by ImTheScientist
Originally posted by FairForever
You must be a total idiot. Oh wait, you're a Cobra Kai member!

Have you read the GLB forum posting rules? Where is the Ban Hammer?

I'll take care of it.

I think the 64 teams should have been taken from all league divisions (or maybe AA and up). I would much preferred to see only the league champs from every division square off. This would eliminate bias. This current system gives no respect to the majority of GLB. It smells of "USA PRO/Canada PRO" when there clearly are talented teams in all leagues and all divisions. Im more than sure there are teams in AA leagues that may just upset some Pro League teams...wouldn't that be great. Much more like the NCAA. That eliminates all favoritism and creates an "Underdog" mentality to the game. You would also then get to see who is the best team in ALL of GLB. I doubt it would be a Pro team to be honest...but then again...that would upset the "We are USA Pro" and we are better than you groupthink that goes around here.

Originally posted by ImTheScientist
I think the 64 teams should have been taken from all league divisions (or maybe AA and up). I would much preferred to see only the league champs from every division square off. This would eliminate bias. This current system gives no respect to the majority of GLB. It smells of "USA PRO/Canada PRO" when there clearly are talented teams in all leagues and all divisions. Im more than sure there are teams in AA leagues that may just upset some Pro League teams...wouldn't that be great. Much more like the NCAA. That eliminates all favoritism and creates an "Underdog" mentality to the game. You would also then get to see who is the best team in ALL of GLB. I doubt it would be a Pro team to be honest...but then again...that would upset the "We are USA Pro" and we are better than you groupthink that goes around here.


+1

when do we actually get to Start doing these Friendlies? Has bort stated when it would start happening?

Originally posted by ImTheScientist
I think the 64 teams should have been taken from all league divisions (or maybe AA and up). I would much preferred to see only the league champs from every division square off.

So how do you take into account when one division in a league is much stronger than the other? That happens all the time, so you'd automatically be snubbing many deserving teams right there.

Originally posted by ImTheScientist
It smells of "USA PRO/Canada PRO" when there clearly are talented teams in all leagues and all divisions.


So were there ones which you think were really top 20-30 teams which were left out in favor of US/CA Pro teams that are in? If you think that some people were snubbed by being left out but realistically wouldn't advance very far, then who really cares? Some people are going to be snubbed towards the bottom in any system. I mean look at the NCAA tournament. There's teams snubbed every year, but other than the occasional upset which gets a lower team 2 or MAYBE 3 rounds in, they're not the ones who are going to really be towards the top anyway.

Originally posted by ImTheScientist
You would also then get to see who is the best team in ALL of GLB. I doubt it would be a Pro team to be honest...but then again...that would upset the "We are USA Pro" and we are better than you groupthink that goes around here.

So between this and other posts I've seen from you, you're so against US/CA Pro teams, that you're almost ruling out the possibility that one is actually the best? So how many teams who probably do deserve to be in this are you going to leave out from US/CA Pro to overcompensate for the bias you see here? If you go in with this kind of thinking, your tournament is going to be just as flawed as you see this one being, just in the other direction.

Originally posted by ImTheScientist
I would much preferred to see only the league champs from every division square off. This would eliminate bias. This current system gives no respect to the majority of GLB.

this proposed system gives no respect to those who were haxed imo

edited cause I fail at quoting

Originally posted by JED
So how do you take into account when one division in a league is much stronger than the other? That happens all the time, so you'd automatically be snubbing many deserving teams right there.

Is this not the way the NFL works? Sure there are a few wild cards but the best teams get in the playoffs (those that won their division). Are you scared you won't get in? Im sure USA Pro people HATE my idea because it will lead to them being exposed for what they are. Who is to say what division is toughest or not? An average lvl list? That list has NOTHING to do with how good or not good a leagues champion is.

Originally posted by JED
So were there ones which you think were really top 20-30 teams which were left out in favor of US/CA Pro teams that are in? If you think that some people were snubbed by being left out but realistically wouldn't advance very far, then who really cares? Some people are going to be snubbed towards the bottom in any system. I mean look at the NCAA tournament. There's teams snubbed every year, but other than the occasional upset which gets a lower team 2 or MAYBE 3 rounds in, they're not the ones who are going to really be towards the top anyway.

They don't snub league champions. You don't see the whole PAC-10 in the NCAA tourney. Why are you so scared to give others a chance to prove their worth. For all you know South East Asia AA could have the best team but you all are unwilling to give them a chance due to fear.


Originally posted by JED
So between this and other posts I've seen from you, you're so against US/CA Pro teams, that you're almost ruling out the possibility that one is actually the best? So how many teams who probably do deserve to be in this are you going to leave out from US/CA Pro to overcompensate for the bias you see here? If you go in with this kind of thinking, your tournament is going to be just as flawed as you see this one being, just in the other direction.

FALSE. It would be a true tournament of champions. What did the teams in CA/US Pro do to deserve entry? They didn't win anything did they? Should they be in because an average lvl list says they are 1 rank above another league. We are talking about 5 freaking XP distributed over 200-300 XP. What a joke. If they win their league they get in, if they lose they do not. Its very simple.

BOW TO YOUR SENSEI JED!

Wow, I took the time to respond to you because, despite your little Kobra Kai schtick you have going on, I thought you were a more level-headed and rational person. But after seeing you irrationally throw away 2 leagues because other people favor them shows I was wrong on that front. Thanks for proving me wrong, I'll make sure not to bother seriously answering your posts like this anymore. Have fun with your tournament which will prove the best team who isn't in US or CA Pro.

Originally posted by Jed
Wow, I took the time to respond to you because, despite your little Kobra Kai schtick you have going on, I thought you were a more level-headed and rational person. But after seeing you irrationally throw away 2 leagues because other people favor them shows I was wrong on that front. Thanks for proving me wrong, I'll make sure not to bother seriously answering your posts like this anymore. Have fun with your tournament which will prove the best team who isn't in US or CA Pro.

I thought you would actually be open minded. Have fun proving who the best team in only US or Canada Pro is. Someday you will open your eyes to the rest of GLB. There are plenty of other good leagues with plenty of teams that could easily compete in US or CA Pro. I hope your responses to me have opened the minds of others in GLB. Your closed minded attitude towards the skill level of the ENTIRE GLB community as a whole is ridiculous.

ETA: I realize that people hate the schtick but no reason to be closed minded or try to divert based off a schtick. WEAK!

Hey, I've asked a number of times to name teams who were snubbed and would be in the top 20-30 teams, no one has responded. Your only response was "US AND CA PRO SUCK <insert Kobra Kai quote here> THEY SHOULD ALL BE OUT!! <insert Kobra Kai quote here>." Yup, that's open minded.

Originally posted by Jed
Hey, I've asked a number of times to name teams who were snubbed and would be in the top 20-30 teams, no one has responded. Your only response was "US AND CA PRO SUCK <insert Kobra Kai quote here> THEY SHOULD ALL BE OUT!! <insert Kobra Kai quote here>." Yup, that's open minded.

I never said they "sucked". I said there are others that are deserving. If you want to see a list of teams that I believe were snubbed go to the "leagues" link. From there you can access Africa, Asia, South America, W & E Europe...etc.... You can click on AA leagues, AAA leagues, and Pro Leagues. From there you can find last seasons champions. Of course you would have to change the tournament entries every year based off of champions....but you get the point.