Originally posted by jdbolick
No, the fact of the matter is that they fell ass backwards into staying despite constantly failing to make the playoffs. When you fail and fail and fail and fail, someone with any decency would pass and let someone else get their shot. Demote and then actually earn your way back up. Alpine doesn't make the WL any more competitive than any number of other teams that haven't already gotten repeated free passes and yet continuously failed to make the playoffs. Let someone else stay who might actually succeed. Hell, we've even had a team get the free pass and then win the WL the following season. Alpine's constant failure means that they shouldn't be wasting our time.
So different rules for different people? That's exactly what banning APL teams would be too. Hey, they've shown their teams do not win many games in the WL, they have shown they are incapable of producing a team that can win the whole thing, so why even have them here at all? I'm not saying it isn't a stupid argument, I'm saying it's the same argument you are making with Alpine. Not buying the "same people" argument at all, you earn your right to be in the WL, and in some years 9th place is good enough.
Even if it's the "same people", the team has played 24 playoff games in the WL with a 0.500 record. If that's constant failing then you are setting a ceiling you can't even reach yourself.
In fact I'm pretty sure I could dig up quotes from you when this was being discussed initially years ago that allowing the 9th seed to stay would be the best idea. What team gets 9th place should be completely irrelevant, it's not like you can plan for it.
Hogwarts is in the CC game, let everyone in Zeta get demoted
No, the fact of the matter is that they fell ass backwards into staying despite constantly failing to make the playoffs. When you fail and fail and fail and fail, someone with any decency would pass and let someone else get their shot. Demote and then actually earn your way back up. Alpine doesn't make the WL any more competitive than any number of other teams that haven't already gotten repeated free passes and yet continuously failed to make the playoffs. Let someone else stay who might actually succeed. Hell, we've even had a team get the free pass and then win the WL the following season. Alpine's constant failure means that they shouldn't be wasting our time.
So different rules for different people? That's exactly what banning APL teams would be too. Hey, they've shown their teams do not win many games in the WL, they have shown they are incapable of producing a team that can win the whole thing, so why even have them here at all? I'm not saying it isn't a stupid argument, I'm saying it's the same argument you are making with Alpine. Not buying the "same people" argument at all, you earn your right to be in the WL, and in some years 9th place is good enough.
Even if it's the "same people", the team has played 24 playoff games in the WL with a 0.500 record. If that's constant failing then you are setting a ceiling you can't even reach yourself.
In fact I'm pretty sure I could dig up quotes from you when this was being discussed initially years ago that allowing the 9th seed to stay would be the best idea. What team gets 9th place should be completely irrelevant, it's not like you can plan for it.
Hogwarts is in the CC game, let everyone in Zeta get demoted
Edited by Golan on Aug 30, 2013 18:36:46






























