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Not sure why paying customers are so defensive regarding flex discounts. The bottom line with any business is that you keep your customers happy. I definitely think there should be flex discounts for long term ownership. it doesnt give me any in game advantage but it rewards me for keeping my team and paying for my team.

What about the seasons where through no fault of my own my team had no chance to win when my young team came out of the cap leagues and into the uncapped. I still paid my team fee even though the it was a wasted season.

I personally couldn't care less about another trophy, plaque or other useless item that takes up space. I would even take reward points or fill up my team flex bank or give me an extra free scrimmage.

Look at the leagues, there are a lot less league Levels & Teams these days. In Regional Minor, National Minor and Semi Pro they dont even have 3 full leagues each. Not to mention there is no longer a Local minor Bracket. Semi Pro only has 72 teams that have 40 or more players. Seems like GLB should be paying more attention to team owners, remember that when you buy a team you don't get flex back when you give it up unlike making players, so team owners are more valuable, we pay for the teams and for the most part have more players.

Originally posted by Lewk57
Not sure why paying customers are so defensive regarding flex discounts. The bottom line with any business is that you keep your customers happy. I definitely think there should be flex discounts for long term ownership. it doesnt give me any in game advantage but it rewards me for keeping my team and paying for my team.

What about the seasons where through no fault of my own my team had no chance to win when my young team came out of the cap leagues and into the uncapped. I still paid my team fee even though the it was a wasted season.

I personally couldn't care less about another trophy, plaque or other useless item that takes up space. I would even take reward points or fill up my team flex bank or give me an extra free scrimmage.

Look at the leagues, there are a lot less league Levels & Teams these days. In Regional Minor, National Minor and Semi Pro they dont even have 3 full leagues each. Not to mention there is no longer a Local minor Bracket. Semi Pro only has 72 teams that have 40 or more players. Seems like GLB should be paying more attention to team owners, remember that when you buy a team you don't get flex back when you give it up unlike making players, so team owners are more valuable, we pay for the teams and for the most part have more players.

It isn't that anyone is against flex rewards persay it is more of that if it was implemented a bunch of people would go out and buy teams and then you would have a influx of crappy teams that make the competition level even worse than it already is. why reward teams just for owning a team. make the stipulation that they have to atleast be trying.

Originally posted by hatchman
It isn't that anyone is against flex rewards persay it is more of that if it was implemented a bunch of people would go out and buy teams and then you would have a influx of crappy teams that make the competition level even worse than it already is. why reward teams just for owning a team. make the stipulation that they have to atleast be trying.

Who cares how hard they try? They're paying real money for a fake team. It cost 8.50 to buy a team and $4.50 per season after that. Thats $12.50 more than the "average player" has to pay to play this game. I think long term owners should get a 5 to 10% discount after so many seasons for loyalty say 10 seasons 5% 15 seasons 10% and 20 or more 15%

Originally posted by edwardwscollins
Who cares how hard they try? They're paying real money for a fake team. It cost 8.50 to buy a team and $4.50 per season after that. Thats $12.50 more than the "average player" has to pay to play this game. I think long term owners should get a 5 to 10% discount after so many seasons for loyalty say 10 seasons 5% 15 seasons 10% and 20 or more 15%

The problem that has been brought up before is two things.

1. Its borderline NGTH but I wont speak for the admins on this particular topic.

2. A team costs 500 flex a season. Where each player costs 300, 600, or 900 flex per season. So it seems like maybe long term players are in just as good of position to be rewarded for playing for 25 seasons.

For those that don't seem to have a finger on the pulse of this game...

WE DON'T NEED MORE TEAMS/TEAM OWNERS. THERE ARE WAY TOO MANY TEAMS RIGHT NOW. WE NEED MORE PLAYERS. THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH PLAYERS TO FILL THE ROSTERS OF THE CURRENT AMOUNT OF TEAMS. TO GIVE MONETARY REWARDS FOR OWNING WOULD BE COMPLETELY RETARDED.


If anything there should be talk about a free player for every 100 dollars spent.

Originally posted by bigtisme
Originally posted by edwardwscollins

Who cares how hard they try? They're paying real money for a fake team. It cost 8.50 to buy a team and $4.50 per season after that. Thats $12.50 more than the "average player" has to pay to play this game. I think long term owners should get a 5 to 10% discount after so many seasons for loyalty say 10 seasons 5% 15 seasons 10% and 20 or more 15%

The problem that has been brought up before is two things.

1. Its borderline NGTH but I wont speak for the admins on this particular topic.

2. A team costs 500 flex a season. Where each player costs 300, 600, or 900 flex per season. So it seems like maybe long term players are in just as good of position to be rewarded for playing for 25 seasons.

Yes but player build points are 100% refunded and boosting custom points are 70% refunded. Team fees are not refunded at all. And running a team is much more work.

Keep in mind there is no reason some other rewards package could not be made for continuous player creation as well.

Just because something else could be done in addition is not a logical reason to do nothing at all.

Or as a cop once said in response to why he pulled a driver over when others were also speeding

"You ever gone fishing? You ever caught ALL the fish?"

Originally posted by All American Dude
For those that don't seem to have a finger on the pulse of this game...

WE DON'T NEED MORE TEAMS/TEAM OWNERS. THERE ARE WAY TOO MANY TEAMS RIGHT NOW. WE NEED MORE PLAYERS. THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH PLAYERS TO FILL THE ROSTERS OF THE CURRENT AMOUNT OF TEAMS. TO GIVE MONETARY REWARDS FOR OWNING WOULD BE COMPLETELY RETARDED.


If anything there should be talk about a free player for every 100 dollars spent.

Anarchist

Originally posted by All American Dude
For those that don't seem to have a finger on the pulse of this game...

WE DON'T NEED MORE TEAMS/TEAM OWNERS. THERE ARE WAY TOO MANY TEAMS RIGHT NOW. WE NEED MORE PLAYERS. THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH PLAYERS TO FILL THE ROSTERS OF THE CURRENT AMOUNT OF TEAMS. TO GIVE MONETARY REWARDS FOR OWNING WOULD BE COMPLETELY RETARDED.


If anything there should be talk about a free player for every 100 dollars spent.

The bottom suggestion is fine, but everything else is meh. Good owners are the drivers in this game, laying both the foundation for more dots to be made via farms, as well as improving the fun that dotbuilders have.

Tbph owning a team forum a season is nearly free compared to the cost of a boosting 55 man roster. This is good and intentional, because owning a team successfully is a lot of work. Rewards good long-term owners is good for the game, because it keeps those owners happy (just like rewarding long term player builders is good for the game).

So you're saying there aren't currently too many leagues/teams?

Well, why not have something along this line...

Rather then free flex that can be used for anything...

If an owner owns a team for 10 seasons, the owner can get 1 free season of owning the team.
21 seasons - 2 more free seasons (21 because that would mean the 1 free from 10 seasons and then 20 total purchased seasons.
33 seasons - 3 free seasons (and so on...)

This would allow the owners to want to keep their teams a bit longer, and it wouldn't be much of a hit for GLB economy because its only 400 after 10 seasons, 1200 flex after 21 seasons and 2400 after 33 seasons (and we haven't even gone through 33 seasons of GLB so far.)

This is just an idea... feel free to comment on it.

Originally posted by All American Dude
So you're saying there aren't currently too many leagues/teams?

There definitely are not too many current teams with capable owners. Those teams that sit around with 15 man rosters who can't recruit, those are the short-term, bad owners, and they will exist regardless. Furthermore, each age bracket needs to be rounded to the closest 32. Its better to round up and have some cpu teams in the league, than it is to round down and have homeless players (both in the interest of higher level leagues, and in the interest of GLB making money). Minors recruiting is gonna suck regardless, simply because the VAST majority of those dots stay locked into their teams, so the FA market is gonna be small.

If we are talking about at the pro level, its not as much that we have too many teams/leagues, but rather that they are in the wrong places. The minors system is not wide enough to support 8 leagues of the same age with parity. By recent numbers I've seen, we have about 40 Pro league <40 dot teams, so we have about 1 league too many. The main issue however is that there is zero parity in these these leagues, and each team only ends up going against ~5 teams that they are competitive against. A WL-2-4 system rather than WL-8 would make a lot more sense. 1 more league might be needed to add to regional pro to compensate, but thats fine because the whole point of the current minors system, is number of leagues are fluid and adjusts to number of dots.

Protip, lock in your rookie dots on 3 year contracts. Almost every team in the game is staying static through the minors, and yours should too. Create your rookie team on the pretense that you will be sticking together through the minors.

Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
There definitely are not too many current teams with capable owners. Those teams that sit around with 15 man rosters who can't recruit, those are the short-term, bad owners, and they will exist regardless. Furthermore, each age bracket needs to be rounded to the closest 32. Its better to round up and have some cpu teams in the league, than it is to round down and have homeless players (both in the interest of higher level leagues, and in the interest of GLB making money). Minors recruiting is gonna suck regardless, simply because the VAST majority of those dots stay locked into their teams, so the FA market is gonna be small.

If we are talking about at the pro level, its not as much that we have too many teams/leagues, but rather that they are in the wrong places. The minors system is not wide enough to support 8 leagues of the same age with parity. By recent numbers I've seen, we have about 40 Pro league <40 dot teams, so we have about 1 league too many. The main issue however is that there is zero parity in these these leagues, and each team only ends up going against ~5 teams that they are competitive against. A WL-2-4 system rather than WL-8 would make a lot more sense. 1 more league might be needed to add to regional pro to compensate, but thats fine because the whole point of the current minors system, is number of leagues are fluid and adjusts to number of dots.

Protip, lock in your rookie dots on 3 year contracts. Almost every team in the game is staying static through the minors, and yours should too. Create your rookie team on the pretense that you will be sticking together through the minors.

You just agreed with AAD and didn't even know it. he asked if there are to many teams and not enough players and you said not here isn't. but then you used teams with 15 players on them that can't recruit. that is the biggest problem in the game right now. not enough players and to dang many sorry owners. you go to about any forum during the season and you are gonna see more than a few agents whining and crying that they are on teams that do not try, or they lied about the players role or countless other problems. this is a problem with bad ownership and not enough players to fill the teams.

I am agreeing with long term good owners should be rewarded. but if you tie flex to the reward that will essentially make the sucky owners hold on even longer just to reap those rewards. GLB needs to find a way to get rid of the crappy owners and crappy teams filled with CPU's. this would make recruiting much easier and would improve competition tremendously. also your idea of people signing 3 season deals in the rookie season. well that is a decent idea but what happens to that team when said rookies that are signed for 3 seasons. start not boosting and some go inactive and screw their builds up. basically the 3 season contracts don't help if you do not have quality agents that stay active.

Originally posted by yello1
Yes but player build points are 100% refunded and boosting custom points are 70% refunded. Team fees are not refunded at all. And running a team is much more work.

Keep in mind there is no reason some other rewards package could not be made for continuous player creation as well.

Just because something else could be done in addition is not a logical reason to do nothing at all.

Or as a cop once said in response to why he pulled a driver over when others were also speeding

"You ever gone fishing? You ever caught ALL the fish?"

and last I checked player build points are not 100% refunded unless I misunderstood what you meant to say.