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Originally posted by Dpride59
The fact is Jdros doesn't want balance he want auto sacks


Actually, what Dpride wants is to be able to use his team speed to throw 30 yard passes on everydown and overpower the opponent with his superior catch ball % and pass quality %. Not as useful if you force him to throw underneath with pass rush pressure.

I think this sim is boring and I've said as much (skewed too far in favor of the defense). Not sure why you'd put those words in my mouth. We have typically run as many or more plays than most teams in the past and that is not really the case so far this season as much of the playbook is neutered, at least if we want a chance to move the ball on offense - you either play against a team that doesn't rush the passer and you can't complete passes into double coverage or you can't get the ball off in time. No argument from me. I have to laugh when you guys say "have to leave the TE in or get sacked" though. That's not the case and you could easily get someone to back off of blitzing by just calling plays that you know work. If we were getting a sack on every down I wouldn't argue with you, but no one is and you don't have to keep the TE in to block if you don't want to, you just can't call TE drive on every down if you leave the QB exposed to a blitz.

Originally posted by chronoaug
Bort should leave the DPC but put a RNG script for blocking logic so the same blitzes probably won't work week to week.

mission accomplished


no, he should allow the users who actually understand how this works to set assignments like he does on defense, in conjunction with a OPC. That's highly unlikely to happen though.
 
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Originally posted by chronoaug
Bort should leave the DPC but put a RNG script for blocking logic so the same blitzes probably won't work week to week.

mission accomplished


also, it wouldn't change the 6 vs 5 argument, which is what many don't like. God forbid a TE or HB needs to stay in and block occasionally.
 
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No way. That's awful to set every single blocking assignment. You'll just have to learn how to DC without just finding the new way to break the oline logic. I think the last thing the userbase wants is another 30minutes tacked on to gameplanning or even more lopsided scores because someone happened to have dinner plans and couldn't invest the time into advanced ST AI, finding the newest cheap exploit blitz, setting the OAI and DAI, scouting the opposing teams blitzes by down and yardarge and formation and then set all the blocking logics situationally. If we do that i hope they just make custom every position and allow for 3-4 layers of offensive and defensive audibles.
 
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Originally posted by jdros13
Originally posted by chronoaug

Bort should leave the DPC but put a RNG script for blocking logic so the same blitzes probably won't work week to week.

mission accomplished


also, it wouldn't change the 6 vs 5 argument, which is what many don't like. God forbid a TE or HB needs to stay in and block occasionally.


lol you know that's not the only thing people are talking about. doesn't matter 6v5 isn't an auto sack within half a second plus some glitches still exist holding the TE in on plays. Sorry if you feel threatened because of the glitch blitz 1trick pony but i think you're missing what people actually are arguing for. They're not all doing it because they feel threatened and want bort to save them. You're a good DC and know GLB well. You should get what most are talking about (not just whining)
Edited by chronoaug on Nov 26, 2010 18:38:48
Edited by chronoaug on Nov 26, 2010 18:37:56
 
jdros13
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Originally posted by chronoaug
No way. That's awful to set every single blocking assignment. You'll just have to learn how to DC without just finding the new way to break the oline logic. I think the last thing the userbase wants is another 30minutes tacked on to gameplanning or even more lopsided scores because someone happened to have dinner plans and couldn't invest the time into advanced ST AI, finding the newest cheap exploit blitz, setting the OAI and DAI, scouting the opposing teams blitzes by down and yardarge and formation and then set all the blocking logics situationally. If we do that i hope they just make custom every position and allow for 3-4 layers of offensive and defensive audibles.


lol. It shouldn't even be close to that. The only dots that can blitz on the weak side are the ROLB, RILB, MLB, FS, CB

The only dots that can blitz on the strong side are the LOLB, LILB, MLB, SS, CB

you really don't think you could set up an if/then statement for your OLine and TE in about 30 minutes for a package and then never touch it again?
 
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I mean, Madden/NCAA isn't quite as broken as that so it's possible to make blocking work ok. Though i'm sure if you could have a full DPC in those games you would find exploit blitzes. At least in those you can scramble a bit or move in and out of pockets and stuff like that. Most the time in real life if a blitzer fires like that full speed and the QB sidesteps or steps up properly the LB will go past him a bit and buy an extra second to make a good throw. The problem is that GLB doesn't really have artificial intelligence but rather follows a set gameplan. Auto-adjust isn't really enough but prob impossible to code it like people would want. Not really sure what the answer is but i'm hoping things change some
 
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hopefully bort doesnt nerf blitzing until my blitzing builds are level 60ish. I enjoy a good nerf after 2 years of building
 
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Originally posted by chronoaug
lol you know that's not the only thing people are talking about. doesn't matter 6v5 isn't an auto sack within half a second plus some glitches still exist holding the TE in on plays. Sorry if you feel threatened because of the glitch blitz 1trick pony but i think you're missing what people actually are arguing for. They're not all doing it because they feel threatened and want bort to save them


yes they are, and they always have. They want the defense to adjust to them and not the other way around. This has existed since before the DPC started - and offense had a huge advantage at that point since they could exploit the defensive matchups since certain formations would have the LB on the opposite side of the field covering a HB going out on a route and there was nothing the DC could do about it.

If they go back to the old style of defensive playcalling the offense will be absolutely unstoppable because the offensive dots are too fast - defenses won't be able to do anything but play vanilla. If they leave the DPC but have certain locations where the blitzes can come from that would be fine with me and I have always wanted that - all I care about is the ability to determine which dot is covering which offensive dot.

If it helps them iron out the bugs I'm all for it. It still won't change the fact that fast blitzers who are unblocked will get to the QB quickly, nor should it.
 
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Originally posted by jdros13
also, it wouldn't change the 6 vs 5 argument, which is what many don't like. God forbid a TE or HB needs to stay in and block occasionally.


lmao
 
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isnt the issue with blitzing is the poor Oline recognition of the blitzer?

I havent OCed in a while but does the "Allow QB to audible" work in keeping a blocker in?
 
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also unblocked doesn't always mean a free 40yard dash in a straight line on a track. It'd be nice if they couldn't just go through people and had to weave and change direction a bit and maybe not get to maximum speed within 2yards. GLB obviously has a lot of issues but the blitzes have been an annoying and stupid looking one for awhile
 
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Originally posted by Ubasstards
isnt the issue with blitzing is the poor Oline recognition of the blitzer?

I havent OCed in a while but does the "Allow QB to audible" work in keeping a blocker in?


I don't know, I never use it. Didn't like it when we did. My impression is that some use it all the time.

I don't typically keep a TE in to block right now though since we aren't getting sacked on every play.
 
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i also guess ill just hold in that extra WR on 5WR occasionally.
 
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Originally posted by jdros13
I don't know, I never use it. Didn't like it when we did. My impression is that some use it all the time.

I don't typically keep a TE in to block right now though since we aren't getting sacked on every play.


are OCs basically forced to keep a dot in to block just in case the other team is blitzing? Or i guess you put in the same play twice with the only difference being holding in another blocker and set auto adjust on

That is unless the audible function works properly.
 
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