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Bukowski
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Originally posted by lolMurp
Originally posted by Coltzilla

Originally posted by jrry32


Originally posted by tdm13



Originally posted by jrry32






Again, find 10(down from 20) DEs putting up good sack numbers in a league vs. equal level players with no gutted teams.(or that have not played a gutjob)



Are you asking for AAA/Pro or for any leagues outside of BBB? Because I've already shown you one


Well, I mean he could post 10 DEs from BBB but he'd be laughed at.


On a side note, I didn’t have to look real hard to find these guys.

USA AAA #1 Gut Job.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=119968

USA AAA #1 Entirety of his sacks were from lopsided games.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=251068

USA AAA #2 Played blowouts
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=26316

African Pro League APL. Do I need to say anything more?
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=134364

African AAA #1Played blowouts.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=405585

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=379574

And I am either lying through my teeth or have not taken a single look at the opposition of any of these guys.

Fixed your post.


This.

I was just about to post the same thing.

People really need to at least try to make a reasonable case, that shit was pathetic.
 
Coltzilla
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Originally posted by lolMurp
Originally posted by Coltzilla

Originally posted by jrry32


Originally posted by tdm13



Originally posted by jrry32






Again, find 10(down from 20) DEs putting up good sack numbers in a league vs. equal level players with no gutted teams.(or that have not played a gutjob)



Are you asking for AAA/Pro or for any leagues outside of BBB? Because I've already shown you one


Well, I mean he could post 10 DEs from BBB but he'd be laughed at.


On a side note, I didn’t have to look real hard to find these guys.

USA AAA #1 Gut Job.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=119968

USA AAA #1 Entirety of his sacks were from lopsided games.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=251068

USA AAA #2 Played blowouts
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=26316

African Pro League APL. Do I need to say anything more?
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=134364

African AAA #1Played blowouts.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=405585

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=379574

And I am either lying through my teeth or have not taken a single look at the opposition of any of these guys.

Fixed your post.


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addddddum
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I smell a whole-lotta-fail in this thread.
 
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Originally posted by Bukowski
Originally posted by lolMurp

Originally posted by Coltzilla


Originally posted by jrry32



Originally posted by tdm13




Originally posted by jrry32







Again, find 10(down from 20) DEs putting up good sack numbers in a league vs. equal level players with no gutted teams.(or that have not played a gutjob)



Are you asking for AAA/Pro or for any leagues outside of BBB? Because I've already shown you one


Well, I mean he could post 10 DEs from BBB but he'd be laughed at.


On a side note, I didn’t have to look real hard to find these guys.

USA AAA #1 Gut Job.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=119968

USA AAA #1 Entirety of his sacks were from lopsided games.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=251068

USA AAA #2 Played blowouts
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=26316

African Pro League APL. Do I need to say anything more?
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=134364

African AAA #1Played blowouts.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=405585

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=379574

And I am either lying through my teeth or have not taken a single look at the opposition of any of these guys.

Fixed your post.


This.

I was just about to post the same thing.

People really need to at least try to make a reasonable case, that shit was pathetic.


Shooting it down is fun, though. I'm thinking of wittier and wittier ways to pound the same message into people's heads.
 
Firenze
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Originally posted by addddddum
I smell a whole-lotta-fail in this thread.


Kinda like DE's as a whole, then.
 
Maddoc
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Originally posted by Coltzilla
have not taken a single look at the opposition of any of these guys.


Pretty sure it's that one
 
Bukowski
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Originally posted by Maddoc
Originally posted by Coltzilla

have not taken a single look at the opposition of any of these guys.


Pretty sure it's that one


Looks like it.
 
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Originally posted by Firenze
Originally posted by addddddum

I smell a whole-lotta-fail in this thread.


Kinda like DE's as a whole, then.


Agreed, exactly what I meant.
 
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Last edited May 7, 2009 15:27:06
 
Maddoc
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They really need to just not even record stats in games with a difference in score of, say, over a hundred.
 
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Originally posted by Maddoc
They really need to just not even record stats in games with a difference in score of, say, over a hundred.


Then I'd set my AI to punt whenever we're winning by 94+.
 
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Originally posted by tjsexy82
Originally posted by Maddoc

They really need to just not even record stats in games with a difference in score of, say, over a hundred.


Then I'd set my AI to punt whenever we're winning by 94+.


A lot of teams would

Maybe in games where winning margin is higher than 50 the stats aren't recorded. Would balance out trophy races.
 
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Originally posted by Maddoc
To be fair, you need as high as 10 Blocking to block multiple players at a time.


true that
 
Bukowski
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DEs would cease to exist, if stats in blowouts didn't count.

I still can't understand, how Bort & Co didn't realize that DEs would be even more fucked this season, than they've ever been before, because of the loss of attribute VAs.

Any decent OT I knew, had their VAs in Strength and Blocking, not Speed/Agility. While basically every DE had their points in Track Star and Quick.

So basic math would tell you, that DEs would be losing a ton of Speed/Agility, while OTs wouldn't be losing any.

Just goes to show you how much they care.

But wait.. They gave DEs Pass Rusher....that doesn't even work as much as Pass Blocker for Olineman.
 
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Originally posted by Maddoc
Originally posted by whoshotjr

Originally posted by Snakebite99


I love when people come in here bragging about how great their player is doing, and then you realize he's beating up on players 12-15 levels lower. Dont beat your chest if you have a level 45 beating up on level 30s, please


Honestly this line of thinking seemed to help DEs get nerfed in the first place. I think in most cases if you went back to S6 filtered out sacks versus gut jobs and underleveled/poorly built backups, the sack numbers were not that bad.


This is exactly why these "nerfs" are so infuriating.

Looking at actual decent competition, the sack numbers were in no way out of control. People just saw inflated numbers from teams beating up on gutjobs and flipped the fuck out.


This isn't entirely true. Heaps of DEs were running up 20-40 sacks in Pro leagues against agile, well-built OTs at one point.

Also, in games where the DE was somewhat superior to the OT in a game where the teams were roughly equal in talent, the DE often ran up 5-12 sacks. That made DEs way too influential on the outcome of a game.
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