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The theory is that catching increases PDs. Regardless, interceptions are more valuable than most people realize. And, Viscount is mean

Originally posted by mmuhr
this just in, I have been testing a highcatching low jumping build and its been working great!

Dude . . . shhh.

Originally posted by Gambit26
pouring points into anything early might pay off at the begginning, but it is gonna hurt you later in your career when your keys attributes aren't where they need to be because you poured pts into things like catching.

And please stop playing in BBB and say it is working because you are doing good. Take your experiment up to a Pro league and watch yourself get burnt imo.

are you talking to me?? I should hope not.

Anyways, the theory is that catching helps with PDs and INts more than jumping does. Believe what you want, but people that have experimented have come to this conclusion.

Originally posted by Daddy Warbucks
Originally posted by cornerbackX24

Originally posted by Viscount


You still don't get it, it's not about INTs.

Allow me to ask what pumping the catching attribute should do then in your opinion?

If it doesn't help my CB deflect or cover well I'm uninterested.

It helps deflect....
but Im more interested in the INTs personally.

So catching > jumping?

Originally posted by whatje
the vast majority of football fans (and probably players/non DB coaches) underrate the value of the interception hugely

Most GLB games are so lopsided that CB stats dont make much difference anyways.

But in close games a single int can be a gamechanger.

Originally posted by mmuhr

Anyways, the theory is that catching helps with PDs and INts more than jumping does. Believe what you want, but people that have experimented have come to this conclusion.

I imagine they would both help in different facets.
But would anyone say that jumping is unnecessary if you have enough catching/vision?

Originally posted by mmuhr
Originally posted by Daddy Warbucks

Originally posted by cornerbackX24


Originally posted by Viscount



You still don't get it, it's not about INTs.

Allow me to ask what pumping the catching attribute should do then in your opinion?

If it doesn't help my CB deflect or cover well I'm uninterested.

It helps deflect....
but Im more interested in the INTs personally.

Originally posted by mmuhr
Originally posted by whatje

the vast majority of football fans (and probably players/non DB coaches) underrate the value of the interception hugely

Most GLB games are so lopsided that CB stats dont make much difference anyways.

But in close games a single int can be a gamechanger.

I get that, but what I'd want is my secondary deflecting as close to 100% of passes as dottingly possible, then I'll start thinking about INTs.

Originally posted by Viscount
Originally posted by UnderDogs

Originally posted by Viscount


Originally posted by UnderDogs



Originally posted by Viscount



I'd suggest getting that catching up....

Test my 3 level 27 corners and guess which one capped jumping first, and which two capped catching first. I bet you can.

At first glance I'm gonna guess Ba'al and Destroyer of Worlds.

Hmm I wonder how you figured it out!! haha
and what do you know. they both have more int's AND p.d's

It's not just the amount they have, using the scout script they also have deflected or intercepted a higher percentage of their passes than the other CB Anubis. So far Ba'al has deflected or intercepted 70% of his passes.


Which scouting script is that?

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=763778&playoffs=0
does ok with PDs. fucking horrible with INTs.
jumping is 68.51 without eq

Originally posted by Viscount
I get that, but what I'd want is my secondary deflecting as close to 100% of passes as dottingly possible, then I'll start thinking about INTs.

ur proving my point. from a game standpoint, that doesn't make a lot of sense.

Originally posted by whatje
ur proving my point. from a game standpoint, that doesn't make a lot of sense.

Why not? Isn't a CB's job supposed to be preventing the WR from catching passes or at least tackling them immediately if one does get through? A lot of people are more worried about receiving the ball as a defender than doing their job. It's all about stats. A great CB gets the ball thrown at him less. But when it is forced in, it is PDed, INTed, knocked loose or tackled immediately.

Originally posted by refguru
Why not? Isn't a CB's job supposed to be preventing the WR from catching passes or at least tackling them immediately if one does get through? A lot of people are more worried about receiving the ball as a defender than doing their job. It's all about stats. A great CB gets the ball thrown at him less. But when it is forced in, it is PDed, INTed, knocked loose or tackled immediately.

no, your job as a defense is to not let the offense score. if you pick the ball off, you did your job. if you get 7 PDs in a drive and then give up a TD on a 20 yard rush - even if it doesn't even come your way, you screwed up.

every DB coach in the world would (and should) rip a CB a new ass hole for knocking down a pass they should've caught.

Originally posted by whatje
ur proving my point. from a game standpoint, that doesn't make a lot of sense.

Originally posted by whatje
no, your job as a defense is to not let the offense score. if you pick the ball off, you did your job. if you get 7 PDs in a drive and then give up a TD on a 20 yard rush - even if it doesn't even come your way, you screwed up.

every DB coach in the world would (and should) rip a CB a new ass hole for knocking down a pass they should've caught.

Anyone with at least reasonable knowledge of football knows that Nnamdi Asomugha is currently by far the best CB in the NFL. In the past 2 seasons he has only had 2 INTs yet he is still the best CB in the league because he shuts down everything.

I have no idea what your point is. All I have been trying to say is catching affects PDs as well as INTs, I'm more focused on PDs because no matter what the possible build a CB will always make more PDs than INTs.

the point is that an int is MUCH better than a PD. they're not even close. i'm arguing against everyone who thinks defending the pass is more important than getting the ball. that's a narrow-minded view of a position's duties on defense that ignores the actual point of defense.

catching as a stat in GLB is > jumping because of that IMO (there's a lot of people pointing to why its better in this very thread). if it helps with PDs more than jumping, even better.

lol at asomugha. if you'd said that 3 seasons ago, his numbers would be a better reflection. 2006 (3 years ago...) is about when people realized to stop throwing the ball at him...and he had 8 picks that year. he's been a beast since college, it's not really a secret anymore... the best NFL corners don't have the ball thrown at them very much (healthy champ bailey). watch what happens to dominique cromartie in 2 seasons.

even corners that get thrown at tend to only have like 15 or so PDs a year in the NFL