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Originally posted by Valkyrie
Stadium Upgrades:

*Possibly limit two per season to keep teams on the same level*

This would not be the same as Stadium Construction. This would include the following type of items:

* Prices may not realistic, but since I don't own my own NFL team.....I had to make some estimates. *

$15,000,000 ($500,000 Maintenance Fees Per Year) - Stadium Roof (Increases Fan Support 10%)
$7,500,000 ($500,000 Maintenance Fees Per Year)- Build Parking Garage (Increases Fan Support 7.5%, provide income)
$3,500,000 ($50,000 Maintenance Fees Per Year)- Build Tailgating Area (Increases Fan Support 15%)
$500,000 ($150,000 Maintenance Fees Per Year)- Build Improved Concession Stands (Increases Fan Support 5% & could expand the items for sale at the Concession Stands)
$100,000 ($25,000 Maintenance Fees Per Year)- Purchase Comfort Seating For Fans (Increases Fan Support 2.5%)
$500,000 ($25,000 Maintenance Fees Per Year)- Purchase Stadium Speakers (Increases Fan Support 10%)
$100,000 ($15,000 Maintenance Fees Per Year)- Purchase Plasma Display Scoreboard(Increases Fan Knowledge 12.5%)
$2,500,000 ($50,000 Maintenance Fees Per Year)- Purchase Improved Locker Rooms (Increase Team Chemistry 10%)

Others:

$500,000 - Purchase Medical Facility (Requirement for a Team Doctor and/or Team Medical Technicians suggested in the Team Staff suggestion section)


1. Catering Service (for the loges... increase to your high income people)
2. Club level lounge (the place where medium income people go to be snooty together)
3. Escalators (people more likely to purchase upper level seats)
4. Pretzel Stand / Ice Cream Stand / Sushi Stand (all have their various plusses and minuses. Like the sushi is great for teams with high income fans).
5. Team Hall of Fame (must be 5+ season old team, helps fan happiness)
6. Wall of Champions (only for teams who have won a championship in their league)


Stadium Maintenance Contracts

All of the suggested Stadium Upgrades would require a maintenance costs. The actual stadium itself should also require a maintenance cost.

Total maintenance costs would be determined and billed as a "Maintenance Contract"

There could also be a factor that would determine how old each upgrade is, and therefore billed even more money to the Maintenance Contract. Think of a 20 Year old stadium roof costing more to maintain than a 2 Year old stadium roof (logical to me).

Single Upgrade Purchased:

Only the designated maintenance fee would apply per year.

Multiple Upgrades Purchased:

( U1 + U2 + U3 + U4 + U5 + U6 + U7 + U8 ) + ( N x $50,000 ) = Maintenance Contract Cost

U = Upgrade Maintenance Cost
N = Number of Upgrades Purchased (Two or More)

Each Upgrade would require different maintenance costs. Each additional upgrade beyond one (1) would also cost a extra $50,000.

Example

If you were to purchase the Stadium Roof and the Improved Locker Rooms;

Stadium Roof would cost $2,500,000 per year for maintenance.
Improved Locker Rooms would cost $50,000 per year for maintenance.

Since there have been two (2) upgrades purchased, it would also add $100,000 to the maintenance costs ($50,000 X 2 = $100,000) and the complete total per year maintenance fees would equal $2,650,000.

All of these upgrades could be reflected on the Stadium page with small icons that either are included within a additional tab or could be superimposed onto the stadium itself.

Team graphics on the field of play would also be a very nice addition (http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=1093618).

My Idea For Pictures

New Stadium Upgrades Picture

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/3053/allbuyvv9.png

New Stadium Page with Upgrades Purchased

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4062/buypurchasescreenei2.png



Possible Additional Purchases:

Cheerleaders/Team Mascot
Air Guns - Shoots T-Shirts and other memorabilia into the crowd.
Halftime Show - Entertainment for Halftime, pumps up the crowd for the 2nd half.
Restaurants
Team Hall of Fame


All of these upgrades would be purchasable in the off season just like the stadium construction is.



Fan Support Attributes:

Fan Support would increase the Moral and Concentration of the Home Team, and at the same time decrease the same attributes for the Away Team.



Team Staff:

This does not include GMs.

Team Doctor - A team doctor would be available to treat injured players back to health and help prevent injuries.

Medical Technicians - Cheaper Team Doctors with less of a effect. Would also be able to improve player energy during halftime.

Team Physiologist - Would be able to help increase a teams confidence level.

Team Training Staff - Would assist players during training. This could improve the rarity that a player receives a breakthrough during training or the percentage that they player's trained attribute increases.

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I have taken some of my own ideas and combined them with some input and other suggestions. Below are some of the names of those people;

kevbk6222
kretchfoop
hexxum
turnerhero
Swiftus
The Angry Beavers

This idea continues to develop all the time. Thanks for all the input from everyone (positive & negative). I will try to continue to update the OP.



My ideas on this concept. I like this but should be a new stadium as well in there...


I imagine this has been suggested before. But in case not, its clear that it doesn't necessarily take a long time to completely build your stadium up. This brings a boring conclusion to a certain part of the game for those players whose teams reach that level. Sooo...

Once a player has built his stadium to its full size, he then obtains the ability to build a New Stadium. New Stadiums will come with additional features that can be constructed, such as Domes, Luxury Boxes, Seat Licenses & Naming Rights and Gigantic Replay Screens. Each, of course, would be an additional money making feature and could also increase the fame obtained by players on the team and or the owner (yes I think their should be a fame track for owners as well). You could even throw in some sort of Public Funding feature, that lets players

Now it might be annoying to have players have to start their stadium over again from scratch. So you COULD have a second stadium construction screen where the stadium is being built in the new stadium location while the player is still playing in his current stadium. Or you could simply expect players to hoarde cash for the new stadium and then build it all at once in the off season. I kinda prefer the first option myself though since it gives them something to do and to brag on.

Specifics of how the new features could work would be as follows - Domes give you improved fame for all. Also the owner can generate higher fan loyalty among the upper crust (who are less likely to brave subzero temperatures, or tropical ones). And in the offseason the dome can generate extra cash as the stadium is used for conventions and other events (say income equal to one game). AND one random owner of a Dome in each league generates concession sales at the time of the championship game, simulating the use of Dome stadiums for the Super Bowl.

Luxury Boxes would just be additional seating that would generate top shelf ticket prices. Extra bonuses would be that they would also increase higher class loyalty, and that they would sell out more often at season ticket sales, since the luxury boxes are corporately owned and used for business purposes. Also improves fame generation for all.

Seat Licenses would be a one time income boost at the season ticket generation stage of the first season of the stadiums opening. Additionally, it would improve subsequent season ticket sales since once the fans shell out 1000 bucks for a seat, they will be more likely to keep buying tickets. This increases higher class loyalty and decreases lower class loyalty, as you tick off the old poor season ticket holders when they can not afford to buy in. But the cash income is substantial.

Naming Rights puts a random corporate name (eg CITYNAME x Bank/Inc/Financial/Co/Insurance x Field/Park/Dome/Stadium etc) as your stadium name in return for a lump sum payment each season. The owner tries to get this by sliding how much cash he is offering and the number of years for the deal. The server then determines randomly whether the deal is accepted based upon fan loyalties. If accepted the owner gets the offered amount immediately and then at each season ticket sales phase for the life of the deal. Renegotiation to extend the deal is possible and is more likely to be accepted.

Public Funding would be another offer slider that the owner could use to try and get public funding. The owner can request a percentage of construction costs he wishes to be publicly funded, and offer for that a percentage of his revenues from ticket sales and concession sales for the life of the stadium (separate sliders and they can be set to zero). Based upon fan loyalties, the amount of funding requested, and the amount of revenue sharing offered, the server will randomly determine if a deal is accepted or not. If accepted the owners construction costs for the current stadium are reduced by the percentage of public funding obtained (ie 50%). Thereafter the owner will only generate 100 percent minus the amount shared with the public funder from ticket sales and or concessions.

Gigantic Replay Screens increase fan loyalties, concession sales (since people can go get a beer and still see the game), cheap seat ticket sales, and player and owner fame.

EDIT - Also maybe you could have a step in between the starter stadiums and this one, say a larger stadium with Big Replay Screens and some luxury boxes that are expensive to add on, etc, but which have a lot more seats than any other type. This would be the Riverside, Veterans, Three Rivers Stadium kind of round stadium built in the 1970s. Fits more fannies, but not as amenable to luxury suites and Gigantic Screens nor Domes. This would give you three levels of stadium to build through, further increasing player amusement.

Anyone have other ideas for new stadium features that might be of interest?
 
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Maybe not an entirely new stadium, but, work off the old one.

I don't know how easy this would be to do, but, maybe a team owner could spend 30 million or so on a track as part of the training facility within the stadium. This track would allow all the players on that team to train "speed" at 2x the percentage they would otherwise. Similar expansions could include a new weightroom (2x strength training), video room (2x vision training), etc. If you make these things really expensive, owners will have no choice but to pick and choose what they expand on. Certain owners would be able to attract offensive linemen while others would have a better chance of landing WRs. And the cool thing is that it could be limitless. 30 million buys you 2x training and an additional 60 million buys you 1 more for a total of 3x training, another 90 million buys you 4x... and so on. Maybe I'm cool having a full stadium that's 2 complete levels and I want to start saving for a new weight room... I can do that.

IMO this solves 3 problems. 1st - No one that owns a high level team cares about cash at all. Just look at the trading block. This would change that. Money would have value again. 2nd - If I'm a high level player, how do I decide between one Pro team or another? If you're a Pro team in season 7, you're a good squad with a complete stadium and great players with an active forum... blah, blah, blah. Now if I'm a DT looking for a team with a new weight room that allows me to train strength faster and a new obstacle course that allows me to train agility faster, then maybe it makes the search for a team a little more interesting. 3rd - Owners wouldn't reach this great culmination of finally completing their stadium and then go... "Now what do I do".

Best part about it, new teams wouldn't really be effected so much. Lower level players train at high enough percentages already. They have more important things to worry about then training an attribute that's already at 68.

What do you guys think?
 
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how about 'out of the stadium' ads?? for like big bilboards or flyers or something like that all over city to increase interest? obviously as you go up the interest would increase at slower rate. + interest, - revenue

also shuttle buses? + income as well as - maintenance. some places need more than others (also parking lots???)

Hire bands and half-time show things? - maintanence, + for fan interest.

Endorsements? receive sponsorships from major companies like Nike (or made up ones) -- good way to award for championship teams or succesful teams, or maybe long-term teams, who will then in turn receive revenue and interest.

commercials?? - revenue, + interest

obviously higher the interest, the more you can jack up prices on tickets.

i like alot of the other suggestions better than these such as weightroom stuff, but these are just more things to throw out there. would require a new gm spot such as like "outside of Stadium financing" except not as cheesy.



 
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Originally posted by scorch2
Maybe not an entirely new stadium, but, work off the old one.

I don't know how easy this would be to do, but, maybe a team owner could spend 30 million or so on a track as part of the training facility within the stadium. This track would allow all the players on that team to train "speed" at 2x the percentage they would otherwise. Similar expansions could include a new weightroom (2x strength training), video room (2x vision training), etc. If you make these things really expensive, owners will have no choice but to pick and choose what they expand on. Certain owners would be able to attract offensive linemen while others would have a better chance of landing WRs. And the cool thing is that it could be limitless. 30 million buys you 2x training and an additional 60 million buys you 1 more for a total of 3x training, another 90 million buys you 4x... and so on. Maybe I'm cool having a full stadium that's 2 complete levels and I want to start saving for a new weight room... I can do that.

IMO this solves 3 problems. 1st - No one that owns a high level team cares about cash at all. Just look at the trading block. This would change that. Money would have value again. 2nd - If I'm a high level player, how do I decide between one Pro team or another? If you're a Pro team in season 7, you're a good squad with a complete stadium and great players with an active forum... blah, blah, blah. Now if I'm a DT looking for a team with a new weight room that allows me to train strength faster and a new obstacle course that allows me to train agility faster, then maybe it makes the search for a team a little more interesting. 3rd - Owners wouldn't reach this great culmination of finally completing their stadium and then go... "Now what do I do".

Best part about it, new teams wouldn't really be effected so much. Lower level players train at high enough percentages already. They have more important things to worry about then training an attribute that's already at 68.

What do you guys think?


i agree, it would make alot more diversity in teams. alot of the teams are identical when they get up there. change around some things about the team or stadium or franchise = ALOT more diversity! change it up!

 
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Originally posted by kevbk6222
just noticed my name is on the list of people who contributed to the idea

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For an expansion team(to start)
In lower deck:

The Fine Booth (IDK about the name)
Would sell all the regular foods, and you could select 2 of the following entrees:
Pizza, Hot dogs, Hamburgers, etc.

Once you build up your stadium, you would be able to buy more restaurants, such as:
Restaurants in the upper deck:
Just fast food restaurants, etc.

in the lower deck and middle decks you could add fancier restaurants... (Cost could be anywhere from $300,000 to $5,000,000 depending on which and could be added on later





Then, there needs to be more merchandise added, like
gift shop:
Team animals, like monkeys or elephants or whatever
Pennants
Foam Finger
Bobblehead
Jersey
T-Shirt
Hat
Program
Calendar
etc.
 
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This definately needs to be done. Hope it gets added soon.
 
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solid info +1
 
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I really do like the idea from Mad's thread about stadiums breaking down (maybe as a function of how much maintenance money you put into it). You can spend a ton to keep it immaculate, and, as a result, your fans will be happier. However, it will still, eventually, break down and you will want to build a new stadium. Maybe Bort can introduce this whole package of upgrades only for new stadiums (2nd edition), which can only be built after 8-10 seasons. That way, you can start building them at season 8 and hope to have them up to par by season 12 (and open them then).
 
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What about 'Stadium Points'? If you don't pay the Maintenance cost, you Stadium loses structural points. When they hit a certain level, fan support goes down. Then when it gets lower, you have to shut it down and replace sections or start over again because it's been condemned?

If you pay the full Maintenance Fees (or even add the ability to go OVER the fee and pay extra), then you don't lose the points and the stadium is Maintained.

You can also add the option to build a new and BIGGER Stadium as well, to include a lot of the new stuff.
 
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Originally posted by blitz2670
What about 'Stadium Points'? If you don't pay the Maintenance cost, you Stadium loses structural points. When they hit a certain level, fan support goes down. Then when it gets lower, you have to shut it down and replace sections or start over again because it's been condemned?

If you pay the full Maintenance Fees (or even add the ability to go OVER the fee and pay extra), then you don't lose the points and the stadium is Maintained.

You can also add the option to build a new and BIGGER Stadium as well, to include a lot of the new stuff.


+1
 
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Yeah, it would be cool if the stadium had 100 points (label it stadium integrity or something along those lines) and the owner could choose a certain level of maintenance every season (the bigger the stadium, the more it costs). Every season the stadium loses an amount of these points as related to the amount they put into the upkeep. The lower the stadium integrity, the lower the fan supprt (just another variable into the equation).

I think my main idea is to use this so that stadiums have a cycle like players. Maybe make it a bit longer (for the most part) than a player's career. The owner can build the new stadium and upgrade it while still using the older one (with more seats, but in worse condition). This way, money never becomes meaningless and owners can look forward to the grand opening of a new stadium (results in some sort of initial fan support boost as well as better fan support for the better stadium integrity.

As well, this would be a great way for Bort to add stadium upgrade options in the future...the owner would then have to figure out if he wanted to simply tack those on to his old stadium (without perfect stadium integrity) or include it in the new stadium. I am talking about the suggestions of domes (great if weather is ever implemented and home field advantage - noise factor) and custom stadiums choices that make a team's battle field more unique than just the name.
 
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Great additional suggestions.
 
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Originally posted by kretchfoop
I really do like the idea from Mad's thread about stadiums breaking down (maybe as a function of how much maintenance money you put into it). You can spend a ton to keep it immaculate, and, as a result, your fans will be happier. However, it will still, eventually, break down and you will want to build a new stadium. Maybe Bort can introduce this whole package of upgrades only for new stadiums (2nd edition), which can only be built after 8-10 seasons. That way, you can start building them at season 8 and hope to have them up to par by season 12 (and open them then).


I think it would be cool to have the new stadium construction take at least 2 seasons also......... comments?
 
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