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Originally posted by hutchins929
Out of his own mouth... I didn't see this because I was with my wife at the hospital. For the delivery of our baby girl that weekend. My sister told me to look this up. Interview on ABC with George Stephanopoulos.

http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/13078.htm

Interesting stuff...


Congratulations on the baby.
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Originally posted by Admerylous
What is to interesting about that, hutchins? Seriously?
Like Brown, the only thing I found interesting was the manner in which Stephanopoulos "interviewed".


Would you have preferred that he let Obama's mistake go uncorrected? That would have looked worse for sure imo
 
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What mistake? I'm sorry but I still fail to see anything significant or important about hutchin's post.
It just looks like someone who is very anti-Obama or very pro-Republican/McCain grasping at straws.

If you want to attack Obama, attack him on something legitimate. Tell me why you think his policies are flawed. Shit, you can even voice concerns over his lack of executive experience.
All you accomplish by posting petty (and in this case, not even substantial in any sense) bullshit is making yourself look quite pathetic.
 
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I think all Obama needs an Admerylous Mustache... He'll jump 30% in the polls!

In all seriousness... I think that Obama calling himself Muslim (mistake or not), is significant saying that he made such a big deal about calling himself a Christian. On top of the fact that we are in a war against radical Islam and their are more than a few Christians and Jews in this country.


 
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Given that Obama has a muslim background and, if he were in fact muslim, it would significantly affect many people's perception of him and the desirability of an Obama presidency, I think it's a stretch to say this was a completely insignificant mistake. Even if you think it SHOULDN'T affect people's thinking, the fact is that it would and I'm sure you know that.
 
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Originally posted by tjking82
Given that Obama has a muslim background and, if he were in fact muslim, it would significantly affect many people's perception of him and the desirability of an Obama presidency, I think it's a stretch to say this was a completely insignificant mistake. Even if you think it SHOULDN'T affect people's thinking, the fact is that it would and I'm sure you know that.


right, but the people making a big deal out of it don't believe that he's actually muslim. they do know that it will affect people's perceptions, and are making a big deal about muslim nonsense just as a way to take votes away from obama. obama is not a 1 man sleeper cell.

it'd be like if i knew mccain was perfectly healthy, but started saying he had skin cancer and will probably die soon. that would disaude people from voting for him because they wouldn't feel palin is strong enough to lead on her own.

pure nonsense for the sake of manipulating the public.
 
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Originally posted by brownryango
Originally posted by tjking82

Given that Obama has a muslim background and, if he were in fact muslim, it would significantly affect many people's perception of him and the desirability of an Obama presidency, I think it's a stretch to say this was a completely insignificant mistake. Even if you think it SHOULDN'T affect people's thinking, the fact is that it would and I'm sure you know that.


right, but the people making a big deal out of it don't believe that he's actually muslim. they do know that it will affect people's perceptions, and are making a big deal about muslim nonsense just as a way to take votes away from obama. obama is not a 1 man sleeper cell.

it'd be like if i knew mccain was perfectly healthy, but started saying he had skin cancer and will probably die soon. that would disaude people from voting for him because they wouldn't feel palin is strong enough to lead on her own.

pure nonsense for the sake of manipulating the public.


It shouldn't be fed to the press by ill-intentioned political pundits, I agree with that. But I don't think it was an insignificant political mistake that would only matter to far right wing crazies grasping at straws.
 
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probally not fair at all but if he was muslim he would lose this election. I myself could care less what religion he is (I still they they both suck).
 
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Originally posted by Ivy76
probally not fair at all but if he was muslim he would lose this election. I myself could care less what religion he is (I still they they both suck).


I don't see how that's unfair. The very basis of democracy is that the people get what they want, within certain bounds. People can vote for whomever they want and for whatever reasons. If it matters to "we the people" not to have a muslim president, welcome to democracy, where masses of stupid people reign supreme.

 
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Guys, please show me where Obama called himself a Muslim? I still fail to see any "mistake" that you are referencing. Beyond this, I'm still waiting for an explaination as to why hutchins thought this has any substance at all to it -- what does he read into it, what is he trying to accomplish?

I'm being totally serious. I don't understand what you guys are seeing in it.

Everything you've said about what would happen if people perceived Obama to currently be a Muslim and such is pretty much accurate. I just feel that this is like one of those 3D Eye things that doesn't actually have an image in it and you've decided to sort of say that there's a unicorn there just because you think there should be one there.
 
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Originally posted by Admerylous
Guys, please show me where Obama called himself a Muslim? I still fail to see any "mistake" that you are referencing. Beyond this, I'm still waiting for an explaination as to why hutchins thought this has any substance at all to it -- what does he read into it, what is he trying to accomplish?

I'm being totally serious. I don't understand what you guys are seeing in it.

Everything you've said about what would happen if people perceived Obama to currently be a Muslim and such is pretty much accurate. I just feel that this is like one of those 3D Eye things that doesn't actually have an image in it and you've decided to sort of say that there's a unicorn there just because you think there should be one there.


Oh wow I take it back. Yeah, it's a total twist job. I thought Obama misspoke when he said "my muslim faith" but in context it makes total sense and he knew what he was saying.

Seriously, my bad.
 
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But I really do love 3D paintings for the record. Those things kick ridiculous amounts of ass.
 
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Magic Eyes are pretty wild.

I'm glad you posted that because I was honestly thinking that I was crazy that hutchins posted it and you guys began to have a discussion over something I couldn't even see.
 
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You guys don't see unicorns dam I have to lay off shrums.
 
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