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Just for reference, here are the 2 guards he went up against in the scrimmage today.
They seemed to do a decent job of containing him.

level 20
Strength: 60.72 Blocking: 61.72
Speed: 20.14 Tackling: 14.75
Agility: 31.19 Throwing: 9
Jumping: 8 Catching: 10
Stamina: 33.36 Carrying: 8
Vision: 30.78 Kicking: 8
Confidence: 30.72 Punting: 10

2/2/0/0/0
2/2/0/0/0

level 17
Strength: 60.71 Blocking: 60.71
Speed: 17.33 Tackling: 14
Agility: 25.51 Throwing: 7
Jumping: 9 Catching: 7
Stamina: 31 Carrying: 7
Vision: 24.31 Kicking: 9
Confidence: 28.41 Punting: 7

1/0/0/0/0
2/2/2/2/2

Casey(level 16)
Strength: 81.03 Blocking: 13
Speed: 27.91 Tackling: 26.03
Agility: 54.03 Throwing: 8
Jumping: 9 Catching: 8
Stamina: 25.98 Carrying: 8
Vision: 16.87 Kicking: 8
Confidence: 13.51 Punting: 9

2/2/2/3/1
0/0/0/0/0

Originally posted by siquu
Just for reference, here are the 2 guards he went up against in the scrimmage today.
They seemed to do a decent job of containing him.

level 20
Strength: 60.72 Blocking: 61.72
Speed: 20.14 Tackling: 14.75
Agility: 31.19 Throwing: 9
Jumping: 8 Catching: 10
Stamina: 33.36 Carrying: 8
Vision: 30.78 Kicking: 8
Confidence: 30.72 Punting: 10

2/2/0/0/0
2/2/0/0/0

level 17
Strength: 60.71 Blocking: 60.71
Speed: 17.33 Tackling: 14
Agility: 25.51 Throwing: 7
Jumping: 9 Catching: 7
Stamina: 31 Carrying: 7
Vision: 24.31 Kicking: 9
Confidence: 28.41 Punting: 7

1/0/0/0/0
2/2/2/2/2

Casey(level 16)
Strength: 81.03 Blocking: 13
Speed: 27.91 Tackling: 26.03
Agility: 54.03 Throwing: 8
Jumping: 9 Catching: 8
Stamina: 25.98 Carrying: 8
Vision: 16.87 Kicking: 8
Confidence: 13.51 Punting: 9

2/2/2/3/1
0/0/0/0/0



Both of them out leveled Casey and he only played 30 plays this game.

Edit: It also probablly has something to do with his low vision, I refuse to put SP's into it right now though.

We have all seen good level 16 builds and bad level 20 builds, so minor differences in level is irrelevant.

Initially I thought it was Confidence, but I don't think that is it because he seemed to do better in the second half then the first. Neither of the OG had Absorb Pain trained, so I'm guessing you wore them down pretty good.

I hope the problem is not Vision. How much Vision does a DT need to smack around a lineman and get past him?

The pessimist in me says that Bort is swinging the nerf stick in this direction. I hope I'm wrong.

I'm getting my vision to 30ish, maybe more. And then just strength... Training confidence, it must do something!

Originally posted by siquu
We have all seen good level 16 builds and bad level 20 builds, so minor differences in level is irrelevant.

Initially I thought it was Confidence, but I don't think that is it because he seemed to do better in the second half then the first. Neither of the OG had Absorb Pain trained, so I'm guessing you wore them down pretty good.

I hope the problem is not Vision. How much Vision does a DT need to smack around a lineman and get past him?

The pessimist in me says that Bort is swinging the nerf stick in this direction. I hope I'm wrong.

If its not a combimation of vision and confidence, i have no idea what it would be.

I get alot of PM,s from people asking me about my build but I got my first hate mail today ill let you guys read it.

Your Casey Hampton is no where near as good as you try and make him sound. Your going to get owned on your new team in your new league. You don't have high agility. So don't act like it. You do have the shittiest Confidence, and Vision I have EVER seen in almost anyones build. And your Super Slow. Please. Stop being cocky in the D-Line Forums. Oh and if you get any sacks this season with a team that has an equal to or higher level opponents. Please let me be the first one to know.

YOU HAVE NO TACKLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by theodore327
YOU HAVE NO TACKLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Strength makes up for a low tackling number. Im tired of explaining this.

I just want to clarify something. I didnt start this thread to brag or showoff Casey. I started it to moniter his progression while letting others stay tuned into his build. Im sorry if I came off as cocky or a "know-it-all". Im not claiming I know exactly how to build a DT, I just try to give advice I believe and let others know how I built Casey.

Originally posted by JBrown5390
Originally posted by siquu

We have all seen good level 16 builds and bad level 20 builds, so minor differences in level is irrelevant.

Initially I thought it was Confidence, but I don't think that is it because he seemed to do better in the second half then the first. Neither of the OG had Absorb Pain trained, so I'm guessing you wore them down pretty good.

I hope the problem is not Vision. How much Vision does a DT need to smack around a lineman and get past him?

The pessimist in me says that Bort is swinging the nerf stick in this direction. I hope I'm wrong.
If its not a combimation of vision and confidence, i have no idea what it would be.

I got 50 agility, and I stink at rushing the QB. Granted I am a NT, but against a decent O-Line I have never even had a hurry. My whole career has been against higher level o-lines, but I boosted 3 times already this season to see if I can even hang but last game I got 1 tackle and spent most my time being push backwards.

82 Str, 51 agi, 21 vision. 3 in Wall, 5 in Break Through. 2 in Shed Block and 2 in Strong base (I was originally a pass rusher but was moved). When I level I'm going to have to seriously think between putting my 6 points (1 left over from boosting) into Strength so I can have it at 88 (including 4 points from equipment upgrade) or to get 4 points in strong base, or to boost up Wall.

My confidence is real low too, so that could possibly be part of it. Wish I could go back and untrain blocking to train confidence. Havn't noticed much of any difference since I trained blocking.

Originally posted by Awesomus_Prime
Originally posted by JBrown5390

Originally posted by siquu


We have all seen good level 16 builds and bad level 20 builds, so minor differences in level is irrelevant.

Initially I thought it was Confidence, but I don't think that is it because he seemed to do better in the second half then the first. Neither of the OG had Absorb Pain trained, so I'm guessing you wore them down pretty good.

I hope the problem is not Vision. How much Vision does a DT need to smack around a lineman and get past him?

The pessimist in me says that Bort is swinging the nerf stick in this direction. I hope I'm wrong.
If its not a combimation of vision and confidence, i have no idea what it would be.

I got 50 agility, and I stink at rushing the QB. Granted I am a NT, but against a decent O-Line I have never even had a hurry. My whole career has been against higher level o-lines, but I boosted 3 times already this season to see if I can even hang but last game I got 1 tackle and spent most my time being push backwards.

82 Str, 51 agi, 21 vision. 3 in Wall, 5 in Break Through. 2 in Shed Block and 2 in Strong base (I was originally a pass rusher but was moved). When I level I'm going to have to seriously think between putting my 6 points (1 left over from boosting) into Strength so I can have it at 88 (including 4 points from equipment upgrade) or to get 4 points in strong base, or to boost up Wall.

My confidence is real low too, so that could possibly be part of it. Wish I could go back and untrain blocking to train confidence. Havn't noticed much of any difference since I trained blocking.

Im not sure what it is, ill have to wait until Casey plays a couple games to figure it out, ill probablly end up boosting him early.

My DT didn't do so hot. He had one hurry but it really didn't even look like a hurry. I had my pass rush style on combo and I noticed him bull rushing sometimes and other times doing a sort of "pop".

Nevermind I didn't know they weren't in yet. Still, he did a sort of pop movement at times: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=118145&pbp_id=877690

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=118145&pbp_id=877892

Originally posted by shaun123987
Nevermind I didn't know they weren't in yet. Still, he did a sort of pop movement at times: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=118145&pbp_id=877690

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=118145&pbp_id=877892

My NT has been doing that for seasons. Glad I can finally just set it to just bull rush.

I'm thinkin about leavin agility alone and goin pure strength and put a lot of points into strong base.