Warrior General Games

Originally posted by fogie55
-1 I actually think the whole idea of VA resets is counter to realism and takes away from the role-playing element of the game... someone doesn't suddenly unlearn a skill and suddenly learn another...this isn't the Matrix... its supposed to be a realistic football simulation. yeah, i get that the game undergoes significant changes and builds that people have been working on for 18 months get screwed, so there should be some (but rarely 100%) VA resets after a MAJOR sim change, but other than that it should be like SPs or BTs or anything else--once you spend you can't unspend and reallocate. I'd hope after the game leaves Beta there is never full VA resets.

I do get that some VAs (and some SAs) are decided based on a particular team, its schemes and/or its personnel. Ideally it would be cool to have some of what is now VAs (and perhaps some SAs) split off into a new feature called with "Advanced Tactics" or something and dots could earn "Tactics Points" that represent things skills/abilities gained from working with their current coaches/coordinators/teammates. These could be reset every time a player changes teams or a team changes owners or something.

Until then, having a small portion of VA points reset each season seems like a realistic way to say a certain % of your abilities are gained permanently in the form of improved athleticism and a smaller % of their added skills comes from the system in which they are playing and changes season-to-season.

Holy crap 7 pages and this is the first person in all that arguing that actually gave a reason why he was against this.

- it isn't the matrix. We just have magic shoes, gloves, head bands, and shirts. Oh that's right this is a game. Not real life. If anything switching va's each season is more realistic than anything this game has to offer.

- all you are doing is catering to the networks by not making the reset full. They can reload with the best set every season and you are stuck with your head in a puddle treading water.

There is just no logical sense not to give a full reset under the current glb spectrum. It only puts everyone on a fair scale of opportunity. There are no disadvantages to it.

Originally posted by Diamond Spade
so basically the guys for this want enough VA resets to jump from gimick to gimick?

Jumping from gimmick to gimmick is easy the way it is now.

Molding your set for a coordinator so he fits the system is what people should be able to do. At least in the small way va's can help. What is funny to me is the people I see against this are the same people in other threads talking about the plft market being small.

Still not needed. That's the reasoning behind my -1. Nice and simple.

Originally posted by bhall43
They aren't gaming the system because of switching out their useful va's for attribute va's. Apply some common ffs.

You should prb read that again...... context ftw.

Originally posted by We_Rule
You should prb read that again...... context ftw.

Gaming the hof system has nothing to do with this thread. So I could care less.

Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader



There's no reason not to give a "full" reset. Even the name "full" reset is a minomer--there's enough "must have" VAs at every position that all but the last 1-3 VAs are pretty much locked into stone anyway. What we're asking for when we say "full" reset is simply a lifting of the artificially constrictive 15-VAs-each-offseason rule.


"Artificially restrictive"? wat? Explain plz.

Because it sure seems like 15 points to reset is pretty generous, even your own argument above pretty much proves the point that "full resets" are not necessary in any way.

Originally posted by Myd
Still not needed. That's the reasoning behind my -1. Nice and simple.

There are plenty of examples why it is needed. Just hit up the plft.

Originally posted by bhall43
There are plenty of examples why it is needed. Just hit up the plft.

Nah... not needed...

Ill let you guys troll each other into oblivion. Its obvious nothing constructive is gonna be talked about in this crew.

Threads like these almost sway me to believe that only property owners should be entitled to vote.

Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
Threads like these almost sway me to believe that only property owners should be entitled to vote.

Shouldn't be an "almost"....... should have never changed, seeing as this is how it was when the country was founded. Not sure exactly how this statement is relevant in the thread though, seeing as it too undermines your argument.

Originally posted by We_Rule
Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader

Threads like these almost sway me to believe that only property owners should be entitled to vote.

Shouldn't be an "almost"....... should have never changed, seeing as this is how it was when the country was founded. Not sure exactly how this statement is relevant in the thread though, seeing as it too undermines your argument.


I bet you can piece it together (and it supports my argument).

Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
Threads like these almost sway me to believe that only property owners should be entitled to vote.

There's not enough of a correlation there between ability to make a rational decision and property ownership. I've always been for voters to be required to pass basic civics and IQ tests. Knowledge and intelligence are required to make a rational, informed decision in the voter's box.