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Originally posted by Outlaw Dogs
I would say that I could get behind something like with a team victory would earn you an additional point in chemistry since a win, during a chemistry lull, should boost a teams spirits. But Yello wouldn't like that since he'd have to actually win to get this benefit.

As I said earlier you could also go with tying high confidence into having a positive effect for that player to help avoid the full effects of the chemistry hit.

But getting rid of the only benefit a team that sticks together has, just because you can't con the same group of agents to stay with you more then a season is the stupid way of doing things. IT"S A TEAM SPORT, YOU HAVE TO LEARN TO WORK TOGETHER!!!!!!!!


Nope, I have posted all sorts of ideas about improving chemistry. Performance would definitely be one way. But that also has the Rich Richer issue as Hatch normally likes to say unless it helps my point.
 
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Originally posted by hatchman
There you go showing that pompous JA quality again. Your attacks on peoples intellect is so funny. Considering we are talking about a online game and not real life. So on this game knowledge of the game is usually represented in championships won or individual player awards. So yello1 I think you may want to refrain from talking about someones knowledge. Especially when looking at your profile it is sort of hard to see why anyone would listen to much of anything you say.


Online offine, logic is logic is logic.

The OpFor here lacks logical thinking.
 
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The problem is Yello refuses to believe it is builds and AI's that is causing his teams to be mediocre and wants to blame it on chemistry or other things

perhaps if he combined his 6 pro level teams into 1 causal team (where it is more builds than tactics) he might perform well
 
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Originally posted by reddogrw
The problem is Yello refuses to believe it is builds and AI's that is causing his teams to be mediocre and wants to blame it on chemistry or other things

perhaps if he combined his 6 pro level teams into 1 causal team (where it is more builds than tactics) he might perform well


My mediocre builds is what made these gold ring National Pro teams have crap chemistry worse than mine????? Really?? Cuz I dont even have a dot or lolgm on any of them.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=1526 = 65

http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=4461= 39

http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=3150 = 27



 
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Originally posted by yello1
My mediocre builds is what made these gold ring National Pro teams have crap chemistry worse than mine????? Really?? Cuz I dont even have a dot or lolgm on any of them.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=1526 = 65

http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=4461= 39

http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=3150 = 27






They don't seem to be in here worrying about it, do they?
 
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Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader

They don't seem to be in here worrying about it, do they?


Yeah I am sure World League with low chem will be a piece of cake.

Well the team with 27 didn't take the World League Promotion. I guess they figured it would be too easy with their Chem being just perfect.



You guys gotta be trolling me.
 
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Originally posted by yello1
Originally posted by reddogrw

The problem is Yello refuses to believe it is builds and AI's that is causing his teams to be mediocre and wants to blame it on chemistry or other things

perhaps if he combined his 6 pro level teams into 1 causal team (where it is more builds than tactics) he might perform well


My mediocre builds is what made these gold ring National Pro teams have crap chemistry worse than mine????? Really?? Cuz I dont even have a dot or lolgm on any of them.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=1526 = 65

http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=4461= 39

http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=3150 = 27





Are you really that slow Yello1 why can't you see that you are the only one whining and crying over this. the chemistry aspect of the game is in place to deter agents from mass signing and releasing full rosters. basically it is a safeguard to try to keep players from buying a team in some crappy #3 league and then filling the team with no penalty and getting a cheap championship in a crappy league.

You really need to look at yourself and your teams instead of trying to blame chemistry or some other aspect of the game. seriously ask yourself these questions.

1.) Why do your teams have so much turnover each season to make it so that the teams chemistry is bad?
2.) If I had perfect chemistry would it greatly improve my teams chances of competing in their respective leagues?
3.) Am I doing the best job I can to improve my teams and help the agents on my teams become better player builders or coordinators?

my opinion is that the answer to #1 if you answered it honestly is that people just don't want to resign with your teams because you aren't a good owner. you make excuses instead of working to figure out how to improve. you rely on others to do all the work on the teams and in the end you just aren't successful. and by not being successful players leave your teams and move to better ran or more successfully ran teams.

My opinion to the 2nd question if you would answer it honestly is no it wouldn't help your teams any simply because the teams problems are you and not whatever excuse you dream up to blame it on.

and #3 would again be a big no. you had a perfect opportunity a couple seasons back when we let you into the DWO. instead of trying to learn from the group and help your teams improve or even take part in the coordinator schools we were running at the time. you chose to make tons of suggestions that didn't help you or your teams at all. then the only time you did contribute to the DWO was to try to recruit the groups dots for your crappy teams. so the group removed you because it was painfully evident that you had no want to put any work into improving as a player or learning how to help improve your teams.
 
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Originally posted by yello1
Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader


They don't seem to be in here worrying about it, do they?


Yeah I am sure World League with low chem will be a piece of cake.

Well the team with 27 didn't take the World League Promotion. I guess they figured it would be too easy with their Chem being just perfect.



You guys gotta be trolling me.


no trolling at all you just look for excuses where everyone else basically looks at how they can work to still win despite being penalized by the bad chemistry. that is the difference between good players and crappy players always looking for a excuse.
 
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Originally posted by yello1
Yeah I am sure World League with low chem will be a piece of cake.

Well the team with 27 didn't take the World League Promotion. I guess they figured it would be too easy with their Chem being just perfect.



You guys gotta be trolling me.


where's your proof that they are whining about chemistry. what makes you so high and mighty that you can speak for other owners? if you walked into court with your stupid arguments, you'd get laugh out of it. you talk about about logic, yet seem to pull things out of your ass with no support at all. and when people call you on it, you just pull more crap out. like you posted previously, you are nothing but a drama queen.
 
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Originally posted by hatchman
Are you really that slow Yello1 why can't you see that you are the only one whining and crying over this. the chemistry aspect of the game is in place to deter agents from mass signing and releasing full rosters. basically it is a safeguard to try to keep players from buying a team in some crappy #3 league and then filling the team with no penalty and getting a cheap championship in a crappy league.

You really need to look at yourself and your teams instead of trying to blame chemistry or some other aspect of the game. seriously ask yourself these questions.

1.) Why do your teams have so much turnover each season to make it so that the teams chemistry is bad?
2.) If I had perfect chemistry would it greatly improve my teams chances of competing in their respective leagues?
3.) Am I doing the best job I can to improve my teams and help the agents on my teams become better player builders or coordinators?

my opinion is that the answer to #1 if you answered it honestly is that people just don't want to resign with your teams because you aren't a good owner. you make excuses instead of working to figure out how to improve. you rely on others to do all the work on the teams and in the end you just aren't successful. and by not being successful players leave your teams and move to better ran or more successfully ran teams.

My opinion to the 2nd question if you would answer it honestly is no it wouldn't help your teams any simply because the teams problems are you and not whatever excuse you dream up to blame it on.

and #3 would again be a big no. you had a perfect opportunity a couple seasons back when we let you into the DWO. instead of trying to learn from the group and help your teams improve or even take part in the coordinator schools we were running at the time. you chose to make tons of suggestions that didn't help you or your teams at all. then the only time you did contribute to the DWO was to try to recruit the groups dots for your crappy teams. so the group removed you because it was painfully evident that you had no want to put any work into improving as a player or learning how to help improve your teams.


Yeah I am the only one crying and whining.

Like making a suggestion is crying and whining, lol.

You think they should change the name of the forum?

Make a suggestion!

Oh wait, that would make you a crier and whiner too.

As for DWO, say what?

I built dots for DWO, still have them on DWO teams actually. And yeah I read the tips on their forums, asked questions. They dropped alot of people at the same time. If thats why they dropped me that was pretty stupid.
 
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Originally posted by Guppy, Inc
where's your proof that they are whining about chemistry. what makes you so high and mighty that you can speak for other owners? if you walked into court with your stupid arguments, you'd get laugh out of it. you talk about about logic, yet seem to pull things out of your ass with no support at all. and when people call you on it, you just pull more crap out. like you posted previously, you are nothing but a drama queen.




Where's your proof they are throwing a "whee our chemistry sucks" party? Link?

Logic is all about putting 1 and 1 together and not getting "Derp".

Chem = -% to perfornance = Bad for the team

You guys suggest its not. Thats illogical.

Any player on roster removed from team = minus chemistry for the whole team regardless of the player position stature.

Even if he has been on the team for an hour.

Thats dumb. You guys like things as they are. Thats illogical.

I can go on, but you won't get the rest of it either.

Let me just say "Derp". I don't really know what that means, but I bet you do.
 
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Originally posted by hatchman
no trolling at all you just look for excuses where everyone else basically looks at how they can work to still win despite being penalized by the bad chemistry. that is the difference between good players and crappy players always looking for a excuse.


First off yes YOU are.

Secondly I am not looking for excuses.

I am looking for a better game.

And one that lasts longer than this one will if it keeps Rich Richer Poor Poorer features like chemistry in its current state.
 
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Originally posted by yello1
Well you all were just telling me for pages on pages how it DOESNT mean anything to you and the uber teams.

So which is it?

Does it have an impact or not?


It is supposed to impact teams. Otherwise what is the point? Does it impact me in that I feel I can't win because I shot my chemistry to hell? Absolutely not. You are fighting a pretty silly battle of bad teams here. Bad chemistry is obviously gonna hurt them. But when they STICK TOGETHER, it helps them against the better teams much like the guys who need to use promos.

Good teams aren't gonna use promos on shitty teams. But bad teams or average teams are gonna use promos on good teams. Using both those advantages gives those average/shitty teams a chance. And that is how GLB works. And that is a good thing. Rewarding teams who stick together.
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
It is supposed to impact teams. Otherwise what is the point?


Okay, so you admit it has an impact.

Great.

So my point is that the impact is too powerful.

Why?

Because its many times the impact of the game day promotion that gives only 1% boost and thats only to be used two games a season and costs millions to get. Whereas chemistry can be for ten games, or more.

Thats over powered by the games own definition of over powered due to the limitaitons it puts on game day promotions.

Get it?

Now, is it your position that the game day promotion is not over powered, and should be allowed more than two games a season?

If so, go make a suggestion.

Until they change that, though, my point stands.

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Does it impact me in that I feel I can't win because I shot my chemistry to hell? Absolutely not. You are fighting a pretty silly battle of bad teams here. Bad chemistry is obviously gonna hurt them. But when they STICK TOGETHER, it helps them against the better teams much like the guys who need to use promos.


But you thats the point.

It doesn't impact you because your team is the better team to begin with.

Rich Getting Richer.

Chemistry is annoying to you, but not crippling. You have an advantage that is more than the 2% to 9% difference in most games. So the odds are that you can avoid losing your season to it, though maybe it costs you an even matched game early on.

But for a team thats struggling and the most they can hope for is an even matched game, and every one of the 8 wins they can possibly hope to win is key to make the playoffs, that 2-9 percentage can be a season ender.

Poor Getting Poorer.

Worse, because it screws them out of the playoffs, it means their chemistry will be bad again the next season because the free agents who signed this season will flit off to another team because of that bad season.

Poor Getting even Poorer.

Its a cycle that keeps the losing teams losing, and its bad for the game, because most owner agents are not as stubborn as me and will just quit the game when they can not find a way to win.

AND on top of all of that, it makes no sense for all the reasons set forth above. Some sort of chemistry, yes. But not this overpowered blindly applied with every release and signing system, no this is a stupid system as it is.

And thats about all I got to say on the subject. Talking in circles. Get it or not, it is what it is.

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And that is a good thing. Rewarding teams who stick together.


But its NOT a good thing.

Because the only teams that can manage to stick together are the winning teams.

You reward winning teams with trophies. Not game advantages. They do not need them, and that is just going to make the losing teams have a tougher row to hoe to turn it around. Spiral of success, spiral of losing. Rich Richer. Etc. That is ruination to the game.




Edited by yello1 on Jun 10, 2012 21:31:51
Edited by yello1 on Jun 10, 2012 21:29:28
 
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But you thats the point.

It doesn't impact you because your team is the better team to begin with.

Rich Getting Richer.

Chemistry is annoying to you, but not crippling. You have an advantage that is more than the 2% to 9% difference in most games. So the odds are that you can avoid losing your season to it, though maybe it costs you an even matched game early on.

But for a team thats struggling and the most they can hope for is an even matched game, and every one of the 8 wins they can possibly hope to win is key to make the playoffs, that 2-9 percentage can be a season ender.

Poor Getting Poorer.

Worse, because it screws them out of the playoffs, it means their chemistry will be bad again the next season because the free agents who signed this season will flit off to another team because of that bad season.

Poor Getting even Poorer.

Its a cycle that keeps the losing teams losing, and its bad for the game, because most owner agents are not as stubborn as me and will just quit the game when they can not find a way to win.

AND on top of all of that, it makes no sense for all the reasons set forth above. Some sort of chemistry, yes. But not this overpowered blindly applied with every release and signing system, no this is a stupid system as it is.

And thats about all I got to say on the subject. Talking in circles. Get it or not, it is what it is.







Or you could learn to run a team.

But hey, that would take study and work on your part, and that's not ever gonna happen, so you'd be better served to just keep making crappy suggestions until pretty much everyone knows better than signing dots to any team you're associated with.
 
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