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Originally posted by kadafitcd
PP is definately right. You can't tell me that if you're a tester you never use things you have tested in the regular gameplay. I find that is smells of wrong-doing that you're the only team that figured out how to stop czonka.. Is it just great work in scouting and testing in scrims by you? Maybe.. Could you have set up a test game simulating czonka and figured out how to stop him that way? easily.. Now I can't say that you cheated. Like I said it smells of wrong-doing but we will never know for sure. Even if you're innocent there's always going to be that doubt in the back of my mind. That's the problem with Testers being owners/gm's of teams in the regular leagues. PP made a great point and this post is just to second that point. That is all.



Hazy WASN'T a tester until AFTER the champ game....And this was in no way meant as a beat up Hazy post of mine. Frankly, under this horribly flawed system, I think he is the perfect selection...It's that any active player/owner/gm can be a tester that's the problem, IMO....NOT Hazy.

Originally posted by PP


Hazy WASN'T a tester until AFTER the champ game....And this was in no way meant as a beat up Hazy post of mine. Frankly, under this horribly flawed system, I think he is the perfect selection...It's that any active player/owner/gm can be a tester that's the problem, IMO....NOT Hazy.

Quoted for truth, and tl;dr friendly.

I love trolls. You guys make the forum so much more entertaining, and you add so much to the conversation.

Originally posted by PP
Originally posted by kadafitcd

PP is definately right. You can't tell me that if you're a tester you never use things you have tested in the regular gameplay. I find that is smells of wrong-doing that you're the only team that figured out how to stop czonka.. Is it just great work in scouting and testing in scrims by you? Maybe.. Could you have set up a test game simulating czonka and figured out how to stop him that way? easily.. Now I can't say that you cheated. Like I said it smells of wrong-doing but we will never know for sure. Even if you're innocent there's always going to be that doubt in the back of my mind. That's the problem with Testers being owners/gm's of teams in the regular leagues. PP made a great point and this post is just to second that point. That is all.



Hazy WASN'T a tester until AFTER the champ game....And this was in no way meant as a beat up Hazy post of mine. Frankly, under this horribly flawed system, I think he is the perfect selection...It's that any active player/owner/gm can be a tester that's the problem, IMO....NOT Hazy.

Yeah, I completely believe Hazy that he didn't have access until recently. Its more of an issue for next season...

I'm going to step out and say that CCCC will make some noise this season. We had a huge offseason and we have always been a pass first team. Last season we could have won 2-3 more games spamming the slam but instead decided to constantly experiment to find other methods to win (lose) going into the playoffs. This season, we are ready for anything. The first half of the season might be rough as we are battling chem issues but I think we'll be damn good the second half of the season.

As for that rankings, I can't say much with the way we finished the season and our scrimmages down the stretch.

Originally posted by PierreThomas
I'm going to step out and say that CCCC will make some noise this season. We had a huge offseason and we have always been a pass first team. Last season we could have won 2-3 more games spamming the slam but instead decided to constantly experiment to find other methods to win (lose) going into the playoffs. This season, we are ready for anything. The first half of the season might be rough as we are battling chem issues but I think we'll be damn good the second half of the season.

As for that rankings, I can't say much with the way we finished the season and our scrimmages down the stretch.

You guys are gonna need more CBs. O_O

Originally posted by joemiken
Originally posted by PierreThomas

I'm going to step out and say that CCCC will make some noise this season. We had a huge offseason and we have always been a pass first team. Last season we could have won 2-3 more games spamming the slam but instead decided to constantly experiment to find other methods to win (lose) going into the playoffs. This season, we are ready for anything. The first half of the season might be rough as we are battling chem issues but I think we'll be damn good the second half of the season.

As for that rankings, I can't say much with the way we finished the season and our scrimmages down the stretch.

You guys are gonna need more CBs. o_O

We're working on it.

Originally posted by PP
Originally posted by kadafitcd

PP is definately right. You can't tell me that if you're a tester you never use things you have tested in the regular gameplay. I find that is smells of wrong-doing that you're the only team that figured out how to stop czonka.. Is it just great work in scouting and testing in scrims by you? Maybe.. Could you have set up a test game simulating czonka and figured out how to stop him that way? easily.. Now I can't say that you cheated. Like I said it smells of wrong-doing but we will never know for sure. Even if you're innocent there's always going to be that doubt in the back of my mind. That's the problem with Testers being owners/gm's of teams in the regular leagues. PP made a great point and this post is just to second that point. That is all.



Hazy WASN'T a tester until AFTER the champ game....And this was in no way meant as a beat up Hazy post of mine. Frankly, under this horribly flawed system, I think he is the perfect selection...It's that any active player/owner/gm can be a tester that's the problem, IMO....NOT Hazy.

Ok my bad. I thought that he was before and it was a wrong assumption. But again. I posted that just to second your point about having a regular team owner/gm being a tester isn't the right way to do things. But I just wanted to say I didn't have any problems with Hazy other than I thought he was testing before the championship game. But my bad.

I understand....It was my post that caused yours. so, I just wanted to be fair to Hazy, but I agree with your core point. Testers being active players naturally lead to mistrust, even when they aren't doing anything untrustworthy.

Originally posted by thehazyone
If I do something on the test server, I'm going to post it. Clear enough for you? Honestly, if I was trying to use anything to my advantage, you don't think I would have kept my mouth shut about the run game sucking ass and just started airing it out to begin the season? The simple fact that I was willing to challenge Bort about it on the test server and ASKED that I could post about it on the main server should tell you something. Not sure what else I could do there.

If you want to bitch, have at it. I'm not going to let that affect the way I do things, both as a tester/bugs mod or team owner. I also won't respond to bitching or personal attacks. If you have a legitimate question, I'll answer it, with no hesitation. If you don't want to trust and believe me, that's your choice, not mine. I know who I am and what I am about and I'm not going to waste my time or any one else's trying to defend myself.



Hi Hazy *waves*

If you have a problem with Hazy now being a tester, your problem probably is not with Hazy at all, it is with Bort. (like ppl before me have said) You can dis-like the system and making Owners/Coordinators testers all you want (and you would have a valid arguement) but you cannot rip Hazy for simply wanting to step and and help improve the game. Hazy owns a damn good team *fact* Hazy will continue to own a damn good team *fact*

I guarentee Hazy will only help this game and the direction it will go in. The problem is with the "testing system" that Bort has created. Agree with it? Maybe not. But if Bort is gonna give those powers to certain people, I would rather it be in the hands of Hazy, rather than many others people (I shall not put any names down)

Originally posted by PierreThomas
Originally posted by joemiken

Originally posted by PierreThomas


I'm going to step out and say that CCCC will make some noise this season. We had a huge offseason and we have always been a pass first team. Last season we could have won 2-3 more games spamming the slam but instead decided to constantly experiment to find other methods to win (lose) going into the playoffs. This season, we are ready for anything. The first half of the season might be rough as we are battling chem issues but I think we'll be damn good the second half of the season.

As for that rankings, I can't say much with the way we finished the season and our scrimmages down the stretch.

You guys are gonna need more CBs. o_O

We're working on it.

We're catching you

Originally posted by joemiken
Originally posted by PierreThomas

I'm going to step out and say that CCCC will make some noise this season. We had a huge offseason and we have always been a pass first team. Last season we could have won 2-3 more games spamming the slam but instead decided to constantly experiment to find other methods to win (lose) going into the playoffs. This season, we are ready for anything. The first half of the season might be rough as we are battling chem issues but I think we'll be damn good the second half of the season.

As for that rankings, I can't say much with the way we finished the season and our scrimmages down the stretch.

You guys are gonna need more CBs. o_O

MEM inspire people.

Fuck you bitches... we have a tester on OTR... No Mercy.

Major update to the Cry Meter needed for the last few pages.

Originally posted by Chop_Lobster
Major update to the Cry Meter needed for the last few pages.

Does it still work? I thought NAN broke it in the few days before a bug sent them to USA Pro over the Royals...