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kr0n
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Originally posted by PP
Originally posted by islander1

exactly ken. But what you have here is just blind, irrational hatred on the handful of teams equipped to do it.


Yoah, yoah, YOAH....I was going to keep out of this, but come on already. You got to be shitting me here!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll be the first to point out that it's ultimately Bort's fault that this is happening. That said, if you think for a second that any team running the ball 95% or more when not in 2 minute drill or having not already clearly won the game isn't cowardly BS, you are living in serious denial.

As I've wrote several times, no one really has a right to be pissed at the teams doing it, but it's a pretty damn sad joke to pretend that those teams are innocent victims in all of this. They have brought every ounce of shit they get squarely onto themselves.


No one is going to change their scheme to appease anyone. That said, would you rather we throw the ball and rack up meaningless stats when the game is already in hand or just finish it the quickest way possible?

EDIT: didn't understand it tbh. but seriously, that's what the wolfpack do. we've done it since i've been on the team. we're not going to change it based on what some users think is ethical.

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Originally posted by kr0n
Originally posted by PP

Originally posted by islander1


exactly ken. But what you have here is just blind, irrational hatred on the handful of teams equipped to do it.


Yoah, yoah, YOAH....I was going to keep out of this, but come on already. You got to be shitting me here!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll be the first to point out that it's ultimately Bort's fault that this is happening. That said, if you think for a second that any team running the ball 95% or more when not in 2 minute drill or having not already clearly won the game isn't cowardly BS, you are living in serious denial.

As I've wrote several times, no one really has a right to be pissed at the teams doing it, but it's a pretty damn sad joke to pretend that those teams are innocent victims in all of this. They have brought every ounce of shit they get squarely onto themselves.


No one is going to change their scheme to appease anyone. That said, would you rather we throw the ball and rack up meaningless stats when the game is already in hand or just finish it the quickest way possible?



You misunderstood that part. Some teams are running 99% of the game until the have a lead that can't be caught and then they start passing. I was just saying that those passes, as well as those during the 2 min drill, don't really count.

I should have kept my mouth shut. As I said, this is Bort's fault....The, "look at all the big mean players not being nice to us when we aren't doing anything wrong" post just got under my skin. Sorry. IMO, you can't run 95% of the time or more and then act like an innocent victim in all of this. That act just doesn't fly well. If a team feels they have to do it, then do it, but don't act all surprised and hurt when it pisses ppl off.
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I have enjoyed reading this forum thus far, as I recently gutted the Denton Spartans for many of the same reasons posted on this thread. It is to the point where ownership just straight up takes the fun out of the game and eventually drains your time and money.

Most of the successful teams on this game have success not because they know the game of football, but because they can exploit the sim better than other people.

It is probably going to be an endless cycle of new owners starting at the bottom, pouring time and money in the game and getting to the top, then realizing how full of s*** this game can be. Bort might be on his way to creating the football version of WOW.
 
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Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
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87 passes, 4 rushes... the RB's were having a lot of fun picking up blitzes or sitting on the sidelines?



RBs got most of the spoils in previous guttings over many other seasons, I owe the WRs more and still a lot more to be fair to them in that regard.


You're fair to your WR's huh? Why did that one leave you then... the same one that says you're a lying scumbag?
 
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Most of the successful teams on this game have success not because they know the game of football, but because they can exploit the sim better than other people.


 
Drago
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Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
Originally posted by Gambit26


Most of the successful teams on this game have success not because they know the game of football, but because they can exploit the sim better than other people.




Is that chapter 40 of your pile of shit how to scam people guide TSE?
 
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Actually, I'm sorry from indirectly dragging you into this, TSE...Arguing with someone that tries to think up a clever way to tell you to kill yourself (over a fucking game, of all things) is rather fruitless.
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Is that chapter 40 of your pile of shit how to scam people guide TSE?


Nope, I just found the quote above mine to be something I agreed with.
 
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You're fair to your WR's huh? Why did that one leave you then... the same one that says you're a lying scumbag?


Ask him. I already told you why he left and you choosed not to believe me. So what's the point asking again?
 
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Originally posted by PP
Actually, I'm sorry from indirectly dragging you into this, TSE...Arguing with someone that tries to think up a clever way to tell you to kill yourself (over a fucking game, of all things) is rather fruitless.


Not just yourself, but your immediate family too.

ANTSPORTS FO LIFE.

edit: and for the record, you're having an ethics argument, "over a fucking game, of all things." Go outside and lie down in the grass for awhile.
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Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
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You're fair to your WR's huh? Why did that one leave you then... the same one that says you're a lying scumbag?


Ask him. I already told you why he left and you choosed not to believe me. So what's the point asking again?


I choosed it alright. Because you're a liar and he's not, just wanted to clear it up again.

Where's the thread of you crying on the radio show?
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I choosed it alright. Because you're a liar and he's not, just wanted to bring it back up.


I'm the last guy in this game that would get caught up in telling lies.
 
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Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
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I choosed it alright. Because you're a liar and he's not, just wanted to bring it back up.


I'm the last guy in this game that would get caught up in telling lies.


...and there's another lie.
 
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Originally posted by Drago
Originally posted by PP

Actually, I'm sorry from indirectly dragging you into this, TSE...Arguing with someone that tries to think up a clever way to tell you to kill yourself (over a fucking game, of all things) is rather fruitless.


Not just yourself, but your immediate family too.

ANTSPORTS FO LIFE.

edit: and for the record, you're having an ethics argument, "over a fucking game, of all things." Go outside and lie down in the grass for awhile.



So, there shouldn't be ethics in everything you do in life. rhetorical ?...I know your answer already and I think that's sad. For the record, though. I was never arguing ethics with anyone. I was just posting my opinion on the topic of someone else's post. I wouldn't even call it ethics. I'd just call it sucking the fun out of a silly game.

 
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Originally posted by UMBF
A reboot and a re-design of the attribute system is the only thing that could get me to buy more flex. With how much this game has changed from the beginning, it is quite apparent that this game was nowhere near ready for Beta.


That is definitely the case so quoting is required. It has been mentioned before that during alpha testing phase, all Bort did was check to see if the mathematical functions balanced, without ever looking at the actual dots. He never envisioned the game being all about speed, where LB's would have 90 speed instead of balanced builds. Now he is making a half-assed attempt at bringing the balance, by forcing the defense to adjust to PB's asap.
 
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