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Luzod
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Originally posted by UMBF
We need LOLB1, LOLB2, MLB1, MLB2, ROLB1 and ROLB2 depth charts.


Lol, how will this help? Unless we can adjust the LB according to opponents TE, it'll still be pretty useless.
 
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Originally posted by Hukton Vioxx




There is also the problem with specialized TEs that the LBs have to cover so that if they put enough points in strength/tackling to be able to tackle power backs well they will not be able to keep up.


That is a big problem for defense. The offense can put in a blocking TE for running plays and a receiving TE for passing plays. The LOLB pretty much have to be able to play the run and defend the pass.


Why does everyone seem to think this is a problem? Everyone seems to think there should be the perfect LB - able to cover WRs and bring down powerbacks on the same play.


No I don't think LB should be able to do all that, I'm just saying the offense has an edge to use specialized players where the defenses can't. It would be nice if we have the choice of doing the depth chart by match ups. If a receiving TE is in the game, put in the coverage LB.


I'll agree that IRL you can bring in subs, but I wonder how much of it is situational vs. for a certain player. I'm all for GLB allowing a LB/LB2 sub setting and think it should have been rolled out when we saw the offensive sets rolled out.
 
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Originally posted by Luzod
Originally posted by UMBF

We need LOLB1, LOLB2, MLB1, MLB2, ROLB1 and ROLB2 depth charts.


Lol, how will this help? Unless we can adjust the LB according to opponents TE, it'll still be pretty useless.


That's what scouting is for.
 
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Originally posted by Luzod
Originally posted by UMBF

We need LOLB1, LOLB2, MLB1, MLB2, ROLB1 and ROLB2 depth charts.


Lol, how will this help? Unless we can adjust the LB according to opponents TE, it'll still be pretty useless.


You could just tie it to the TE1 and TE2 depth charts...
 
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With LOLB1, LOLB2 like depth charts at least we can put in the right personnel according to down and situation. Think about it, right now most of the teams have their best coverage LB at LOLB, best run stopper at MLB and best blitzer at ROLB. But when you go into 3-1-7 or 4-1-6, MLB (probably the worst coverage LB) is left in the game. Shouldn't LOLB or ROLB be on the field instead of MLB?
 
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Originally posted by datongw
With LOLB1, LOLB2 like depth charts at least we can put in the right personnel according to down and situation. Think about it, right now most of the teams have their best coverage LB at LOLB, best run stopper at MLB and best blitzer at ROLB. But when you go into 3-1-7 or 4-1-6, MLB (probably the worst coverage LB) is left in the game. Shouldn't LOLB or ROLB be on the field instead of MLB?


i have been calling for this ever since we got HB, TE, and FB personnel changes...

SS, DE, and LB changes would make an amazing difference based on situations.
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
Originally posted by datongw

With LOLB1, LOLB2 like depth charts at least we can put in the right personnel according to down and situation. Think about it, right now most of the teams have their best coverage LB at LOLB, best run stopper at MLB and best blitzer at ROLB. But when you go into 3-1-7 or 4-1-6, MLB (probably the worst coverage LB) is left in the game. Shouldn't LOLB or ROLB be on the field instead of MLB?


i have been calling for this ever since we got HB, TE, and FB personnel changes...

SS, DE, and LB changes would make an amazing difference based on situations.


Add DT & NT and I couldn't agree more. I thought for sure we'd get that this ssn...Guess endorsements were more important.
 
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Originally posted by datongw
With LOLB1, LOLB2 like depth charts at least we can put in the right personnel according to down and situation. Think about it, right now most of the teams have their best coverage LB at LOLB, best run stopper at MLB and best blitzer at ROLB. But when you go into 3-1-7 or 4-1-6, MLB (probably the worst coverage LB) is left in the game. Shouldn't LOLB or ROLB be on the field instead of MLB?


Yeah, but we needed endorsements more.

 
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Speaking of endorsements, anyone know when the team MVP ones come out?
 
Sik Wit It
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Originally posted by Hukton Vioxx
Originally posted by Luzod

Originally posted by UMBF


We need LOLB1, LOLB2, MLB1, MLB2, ROLB1 and ROLB2 depth charts.


Lol, how will this help? Unless we can adjust the LB according to opponents TE, it'll still be pretty useless.


You could just tie it to the TE1 and TE2 depth charts...


Lol...then you just have teams switching their TE1/TE2 on the depth chart until an hour before the game, then you have the opposite of what you want on the field.
 
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Originally posted by PP
Originally posted by bhall43

Originally posted by datongw


With LOLB1, LOLB2 like depth charts at least we can put in the right personnel according to down and situation. Think about it, right now most of the teams have their best coverage LB at LOLB, best run stopper at MLB and best blitzer at ROLB. But when you go into 3-1-7 or 4-1-6, MLB (probably the worst coverage LB) is left in the game. Shouldn't LOLB or ROLB be on the field instead of MLB?


i have been calling for this ever since we got HB, TE, and FB personnel changes...

SS, DE, and LB changes would make an amazing difference based on situations.


Add DT & NT and I couldn't agree more. I thought for sure we'd get that this ssn...Guess endorsements were more important.


surely it has its benefits everywhere...the only reason i added in the DE's was because of the 3-4 system. But it certainly would help at DT as well.
 
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Originally posted by Sik Wit It
Originally posted by Hukton Vioxx

Originally posted by Luzod


Originally posted by UMBF



We need LOLB1, LOLB2, MLB1, MLB2, ROLB1 and ROLB2 depth charts.


Lol, how will this help? Unless we can adjust the LB according to opponents TE, it'll still be pretty useless.


You could just tie it to the TE1 and TE2 depth charts...


Lol...then you just have teams switching their TE1/TE2 on the depth chart until an hour before the game, then you have the opposite of what you want on the field.


That is a very elaborate change because it would need to be made throughout the OAI.
 
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Originally posted by Sik Wit It
Originally posted by Hukton Vioxx

Originally posted by Luzod


Originally posted by UMBF



We need LOLB1, LOLB2, MLB1, MLB2, ROLB1 and ROLB2 depth charts.


Lol, how will this help? Unless we can adjust the LB according to opponents TE, it'll still be pretty useless.


You could just tie it to the TE1 and TE2 depth charts...


Lol...then you just have teams switching their TE1/TE2 on the depth chart until an hour before the game, then you have the opposite of what you want on the field.


that would be get pretty silly...it would just be better to base it off formations.
 
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Originally posted by Hukton Vioxx
Originally posted by Sik Wit It

Originally posted by Hukton Vioxx


Originally posted by Luzod



Originally posted by UMBF




We need LOLB1, LOLB2, MLB1, MLB2, ROLB1 and ROLB2 depth charts.


Lol, how will this help? Unless we can adjust the LB according to opponents TE, it'll still be pretty useless.


You could just tie it to the TE1 and TE2 depth charts...


Lol...then you just have teams switching their TE1/TE2 on the depth chart until an hour before the game, then you have the opposite of what you want on the field.


That is a very elaborate change because it would need to be made throughout the OAI.


No, not if you have it listed as TE2 to come in on rushing plays...but on your depth chart you have TE2 as the receiving TE. Other team thinks: hey...I better have my coverage LB in on that. Then right before the game they switch the blocking TE back in for TE2.

Not to mention if someone just changed all the TE1/TE2 assignments in their AI, it wouldn't take THAT long. They could have 2 versions of the AI saved...1 with TE 1 as the blocker, 1 with TE 2 as the blocker. Then they could give teams fits all season trying to guess which one they're going to bring out and if they're going to switch stuff around. Not saying I'd do it or anything, but you know a lot of people out there would.
 
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Originally posted by Sik Wit It
Originally posted by Hukton Vioxx

Originally posted by Sik Wit It


Originally posted by Hukton Vioxx



Originally posted by Luzod




Originally posted by UMBF





We need LOLB1, LOLB2, MLB1, MLB2, ROLB1 and ROLB2 depth charts.


Lol, how will this help? Unless we can adjust the LB according to opponents TE, it'll still be pretty useless.


You could just tie it to the TE1 and TE2 depth charts...


Lol...then you just have teams switching their TE1/TE2 on the depth chart until an hour before the game, then you have the opposite of what you want on the field.


That is a very elaborate change because it would need to be made throughout the OAI.


No, not if you have it listed as TE2 to come in on rushing plays...but on your depth chart you have TE2 as the receiving TE. Other team thinks: hey...I better have my coverage LB in on that. Then right before the game they switch the blocking TE back in for TE2.

Not to mention if someone just changed all the TE1/TE2 assignments in their AI, it wouldn't take THAT long. They could have 2 versions of the AI saved...1 with TE 1 as the blocker, 1 with TE 2 as the blocker. Then they could give teams fits all season trying to guess which one they're going to bring out and if they're going to switch stuff around. Not saying I'd do it or anything, but you know a lot of people out there would.


Ahh...so it would require real premeditation...but yeah, I see your point. Still an awful lot of work for what is probably just a small advantage.

 
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