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Randy03Texags
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I have already messaged support and am attempting to get the team who lost AAA#1 Alpha CCG by 1 point promoted instead of Fox News, as their owner has already stated on our forums here

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=968405&page=last#7676117

That Fox News is getting gutted. Because of that, I feel that Alpha needs a 2nd good team promoted and am attempting to get Kosice promoted in their spot, as losing by 1 point sucks .. but getting another gutted team to Pro sucks even more. Kosice was really close to making it and they deserve to be here a lot more than a gutted hulk of a team.

If other people could please message support about this .. that would be great. Im just trying to do my best for EE Pro .. the fewer gutted teams we have up here, the more balanced the league is and the better for everyone. Im not sure that there were many awards won by anyone this season in Alpha .. Zeta sucked this season, but maybe if we can continue to encourage people to stay and we dont have supposedly strong teams come up as gut jobs .. then we can finally be a solid league.
 
Randy03Texags
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Oh and welcome Dogdandy Dragons to Zeta, looks like a solid team, glad that yall are up here. Have heard only good things about that team for several seasons now from the AAA ranks.
 
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Originally posted by Randy03Texags
Oh and welcome Dogdandy Dragons to Zeta, looks like a solid team, glad that yall are up here. Have heard only good things about that team for several seasons now from the AAA ranks.


Thanks, but we suck really bad. Don't know how we actually moved up. We'll get relegated after one season, we just don't do anything good.
 
caponesgun
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So wait...

They earn the promotion, decide to gut before then and we decide they should auto lose the promotion?

As a team playing for the title in an hour, I approve as I want more league compeition. But as a player, I'm not sure. I'm sure this has happened before in other leagues. Hmm.
 
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Originally posted by dickdogdandy
Originally posted by Randy03Texags

Oh and welcome Dogdandy Dragons to Zeta, looks like a solid team, glad that yall are up here. Have heard only good things about that team for several seasons now from the AAA ranks.


Thanks, but we suck really bad. Don't know how we actually moved up. We'll get relegated after one season, we just don't do anything good.


I hear your punter is rather good at giving souvenirs.
 
Randy03Texags
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Yeah .. why bring a team up if they arent going to be active and add to competition?

Isnt that the point of promotion/relegation?

Sure they earned it, I 100% agree that they earned it .. but if there is no one on that team left when they are promoted to start next season .. then why should an empty team get promoted? The new owner didnt earn it.

Thats my case here, the new owner gets thrown to the sharks and doing something like this is cheating the promotion system, which is supposed to let the better teams go up, not move gutted teams up.

With all the smack you talk, Id think you would want more competition.
 
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Originally posted by Randy03Texags
Yeah .. why bring a team up if they arent going to be active and add to competition?

Isnt that the point of promotion/relegation?

Sure they earned it, I 100% agree that they earned it .. but if there is no one on that team left when they are promoted to start next season .. then why should an empty team get promoted? The new owner didnt earn it.

Thats my case here, the new owner gets thrown to the sharks and doing something like this is cheating the promotion system, which is supposed to let the better teams go up, not move gutted teams up.

With all the smack you talk, Id think you would want more competition.


If such is truly going to be GLB's stance then they need to change the amount of teams promoting/relegating in addition to this. I'm positive this has happened before somewhere down the line.

But yes, in the spirit of competition, I am a supporter of the different promotion.
 
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I am also a backer of more than 2 from each conference being promoted/relegated at the pro level each season. Id say that 4 per conference should be the starting point of a new "waste away" program, to clean out the filth of the top leagues. Zeta had like I dont know .. 5 teams gut this past offseason, with relegation that will take 3 seasons to clean up, with a future relegation system it would take 1. That is much improved.

There will always be gutting and people getting bored, heck .. Im only on board through season 5 for 100% certainty. But for the good of the game, there needs to be faster relegation and promotion. If both Kosice AND Fox News came up, it would be logical consindering the difference was 1 point. Often the conference CCGs are tight games and if they made it to level 3 in the playoffs thats good enough for me.
 
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It'll never happen as the way the game is currently structured...The game's ownership is too limited to nitpick every detail of every league like this...and then you have the "Oh...I changed my mind!" scenarios...I think yer clucking at a wall.
 
Ariston
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I announced before playoffs and hinted during the regular season that I won't be returning next season.

In fact I was out of town for our last 2 playoff games and had turned auto adjust on. I don't see how that's attempting to cheat the system.

But the new owner will have a team with lots of money and max fan support. I assume that will be enough to field a decent team next season.
 
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Auto adjust is powahhhhhhh!
 
dickdogdandy
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I think it's Ariston's team and he can do whatever he wants with it. Not really the league's business. If the team doesn't compete, then they will be relegated the next season. He earned the right to move up. I don't agree with Kosice getting a free ride to the pros. They are a good team and should get here soon enough.
 
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The issue is .. that a gutted team getting promoted then relegated takes +2 seasons then to accomplish the same thing as Im trying to accomplish before it starts. Also with Dubrovnik gutting, or at least retiring many players and selling the team. Alpha loses one of its top 3 teams, they cant take another gutted team.

Originally posted by Ariston
But the new owner will have a team with lots of money and max fan support. I assume that will be enough to field a decent team next season.


And no, thats not enough to field a competitive team. It was through good luck that big n rich managed to field a 10th place team here in the Pros with a ton of cash and almost max fan support. Unless your team gets a super owner who can line up lots of near L30 Season 4 players, it wont even be competitive .. and in less than 1 season all that money and support will be toast.

And it is GLBs business to attempt to ensure that the relegation/promotion system is actually promoting teams that add to the strength of the league and not the other way around. I have already been contacted by the admins about this and they are looking into it.

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Ariston
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Perhaps the problem isn't necessarily with the promotion/relegation system as much as it is with the fact that agents spend over $100 a season for little more than GLB Forum Access.

You can buy HIV in Mexico for that kind of money.
 
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You dont have to have 20 players do you?

I have 7 and I find the price a bit outlandish.
 
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