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Kenchi
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Originally posted by Bort
- Now that I've actually had time to be around during the start of the sim day, I've uploaded the updates to ball carrying pathfinding AI that I had been talking about. KR/PR should work better, and there should be a bit less stutter stepping stuff in general. There's still some with elusive, but it looks better to me so far.

Also included in this update is:

- Some minor tweaks to the ability of blockers to hold blocks for a ridiculous length of time

- QB can now use his vision to throw the ball away from the defenders instead of only along the receiver's defined route. I.E. if there are defenders to the left of the receiver, the QB can throw the ball off to the right of the receiver so he has a better chance of catching it.

- Decreased the pressure value required to register a "hurry" stat. Recorded hurries should go up a bit...they were kinda low. This isn't a change to the QB's stat modifiers from the pressure, but just a change to how the hurry stat is recorded.

- Random little tweaks to pass deflection likelihood, etc, to balance out the additions for the QB

- Deflections are more likely to get slammed to the ground or batted away from the receiver than they were before. Basically less Z axis and more X/Y axis. Should mean less caught tips.
 
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Originally posted by Kenchi
Originally posted by Bort
- Now that I've actually had time to be around during the start of the sim day, I've uploaded the updates to ball carrying pathfinding AI that I had been talking about. KR/PR should work better, and there should be a bit less stutter stepping stuff in general. There's still some with elusive, but it looks better to me so far.

Also included in this update is:

- Some minor tweaks to the ability of blockers to hold blocks for a ridiculous length of time

- QB can now use his vision to throw the ball away from the defenders instead of only along the receiver's defined route. I.E. if there are defenders to the left of the receiver, the QB can throw the ball off to the right of the receiver so he has a better chance of catching it.

- Decreased the pressure value required to register a "hurry" stat. Recorded hurries should go up a bit...they were kinda low. This isn't a change to the QB's stat modifiers from the pressure, but just a change to how the hurry stat is recorded.

- Random little tweaks to pass deflection likelihood, etc, to balance out the additions for the QB

- Deflections are more likely to get slammed to the ground or batted away from the receiver than they were before. Basically less Z axis and more X/Y axis. Should mean less caught tips.


LoL man half my catches come off of tips. And im serious, I have like 1 or 2 a game caught of a deflection.
 
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Now I guess there will be just more of these...?

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=86095&pbp_id=6233561
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=86095&pbp_id=6234193
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=86095&pbp_id=6236046
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=86095&pbp_id=6236816

 
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Wow...I dont even want to look at my game now
 
ramsfan222
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Originally posted by Mendenhall TheFuture
Now I guess there will be just more of these...?

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=86095&pbp_id=6233561
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=86095&pbp_id=6234193
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=86095&pbp_id=6236046
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=86095&pbp_id=6236816



LMAO!!!
 
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1st one .. remember that dots arent actually what happens on the plays but rather a visual representation the best Bort can do about what the mathematical sim said happened on that play. For example in my last scrimmage a DE just blew inside my RT .. TheStrategyExpert suggested not to look at the dots more than a manifestation of the math .. and I feel thats how he need to look at this play.

I believe the ball was thrown behind the receiver and not in front of him so he could catch it. The dots make it look like it was right on target, but then again the dots are also 9 feet in diameter and the ball is 6-9 feet long, clearly that can help to make it look like the 9 foot diameter of the player and the 9 foot long ball intersected, but that isnt the case here I figure.

2nd one .. jumping possibly, possibly overthrown .. I mean its rare that a WR will catch a ball thats 18 feet in front of them .. 6 yards overthrown when a guy has 1 yard long arms means still 5 yards overthrown. Its a bummer .. I mean we blow plays like that all the time too, but it seems like your QB needs more throwing from both of those plays.

3rd play is pretty clearly behind the player in both definitions of the word, the ball was thrown at his back and about 2 yards short. Sid is a good WR, but its hard to catch a ball that is 2 yards behind you. That ball had it been placed in front of him would have been a catch.

4th one is also behind him .. again maybe a lack of QB strength or where you are throwing the ball .. I have no idea. But 3 of these plays the receiver was underthrown, so it seems that whatever the stats of your QB and WR they do not mesh well .. or did not mesh well in this game for your QB throwing it in front of the WR where he could catch it. Strength, throwing .. seems like they both could be an issue. Also you were hurried on the last one, so I mean .. that will most likely put your pass off target unless you have like 7-8 pocket prescense like some QBs do (which I view as a waste of SPs if you never get hurried).



 
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Thanks man..

More fuel for Sid to chase TLW around and bitch some more. lol
 
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It has also been alleged on QB boards that QB strength needs to be somewhat reflective of the WR speed, meaning that the QB needs more strength to throw it long when he has fast WRs, because otherwise the WR will outrun the ball .. that could also be the case. We rarely have a problem with our WRs outrunning the ball More like our QBs just dont throw it long enough to lead them well and they catch it and are tackled.
 
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Jiddy Fructose doesn't know about you guys...but he won't be reviewing gametape and saying, "Why, that math manifested quite differently than I expected it to."
 
Randy03Texags
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Here you go Mendenhall

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=86212&pbp_id=6694088
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=86212&pbp_id=6694496
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=86212&pbp_id=6694552
 
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ouch.. at least the second two said dropped.
 
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Yeah .. but the first one was clearly thrown behind the player, the 2nd one that was "dropped" was also behind the player by my eyes, but was still catchable, just not highly catchable. The 3rd one I think was a poorly thrown ball on the run, that reduced the chance of it being caught.
 
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Originally posted by Randy03Texags
Yeah .. but the first one was clearly thrown behind the player, the 2nd one that was "dropped" was also behind the player by my eyes, but was still catchable, just not highly catchable. The 3rd one I think was a poorly thrown ball on the run, that reduced the chance of it being caught.

Maybe Joey Harrington snuck in and was playing QB.

 
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or tim rattay....
 
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Or Tiger Lionwings
 
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