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Randy03Texags
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Okay Im going to roll this one out as far as it is night now and Ill go back and edit it later with the final people.

Basically I did defense similarly to offense, in an everything/snap method such that if you had low snaps and high results, you got a bonus, but you had to have more stats at higher snaps.

DT
1. Recluse Wolf - Rockford Warriors
2. Booger McSapp - Helsinki Hell Raisers
3. Fat Bahstard - Rockford Warriors
4. Grandpa McWar - Budapest Brawlers
5. Thomas Harris - Belgrade Black Hand
6. Mark Hall - Prague Punishers
7. Staypuff Marshmellow Man - Budapest Brawlers

DT is really difficult, for example .. Rockford has a bad run defense, in fact I believe their DL must be set to play the pass, because even though they led the conference in sacks, their run defense was mediocre (meaning that if you added back in all the minus rushing yards from the sacks, it was probably bad). Whereas Budapest led the conference in run defense and have two very interesting DTs. Grandpa McWar had less than 600 snaps, but had an incredible 27 hurries, only McSapp and Bahstard had more, both at around double the snaps. Staypuff had 21 hurries in under 500 snaps, which is why he made 7th even though he only had 15 tackles, because that hurry rate is just sick. Recluse Wolf was the clear #1, in fact no one else is close, he had almost double the tackles, sacks and turnovers of any other DT. McSapp came in next because of lower snaps than Bahstard and slightly better per snap rates on both hurries and sacks and a similar rating for tackles per snap. Ill be honest, after McWar it started to be close and subjective, Harris had the best overall stats for his snaps and Hall had a good tackle ratio, I gave the nod to Harris over Hall because I felt that a DT being disruptive is more important than tackling.

DE
1. Shaun Kruscher - Prague Punishers
2. Mike Juskiw - Belgrade Black Hand
3. Alex Brown - Rockford Warriors
4. Gunner Martinez - Belgrade Black Hand
5. Angus McCloud - Cincinnati Tigers
6. Bub Rub - Rome Gladiators

Methodology this time was a little different, I even went into the game logs and saw who the stats were against, besides the normal stats per snap, because I wanted to weight who people ran up sacks against, as that is as important as the number itself. So consistency was weighted more than a blowout against a cupcake and that is why despite having the 2nd most sacks in the conference, Bub Rub is low, because like the Rome blocking stats, he got 9 sacks against an Alpha Cupcake, which I didnt weigh very heavily. Kruscher for the 2nd year is the best DE in Zeta, he had the most sacks (and most realistically, the most in EE Pro who didnt rack them up against Alpha cupcakes, just like last season). Juskiw had a ton of hurries and a good number of sacks, of course that is explained because his teammate is at #4. Alex Brown at #3 had a huge number of tackles, good hurries and good sacks, but he also had 100 more snaps than either of the people above him. Martinez got the nod at 4 because besides playing across from #2, he was consistent like Kruscher, never racking up too many stats in blowouts, he also had an impressive number of deflections and an int for a TD (in a blowout though). McCloud was at 5 because he got his stats in 837 snaps, compared to about 1000 average, a good number of hurries and sacks for having 200-300 less snaps. Bub Rub made it in at #6 because I had to include him, his stats were impressive, but a more realistic sack total would have been like 14 for him and not 23, putting him behind the rest. If there was a #7 it would have been Death Blow, but again stats came in blowouts, 2 ints for TDs were impressive, but they came against nobodies, had one of them gone against a real team with as few snaps as he took I could have bumped him into 6th.

LB
1. Pawel Krzywdziak - Silesia Miners
2. Johnson Roscoe - Sooner Syndicate
3. D Animal - Cincinnati Tigers
4. Heinrich Krupp - Prague Punishers
5. Mike "MJQ" Juskiw - Belgrade Black Hand
6. Barney Fyffe - Dubai Lightning
7. Mark Cuebas - Transylvania Drachen
8. Joe Bull - Novosibirsk Grey Wolves
9. Brett Farva - Chernobyl Mutants

The basic logic was that I calculated tackles per snap, looked at the turnover sum (FF+int) and then disruptive plays sum (hurry, sacks, defl), then I looked who was bad, average, good and elite in each category based on snaps. Also if you had double digit missed tackles, as a LB .. that pretty much disqualifies you, that only applied to one person who might have been #10, Rock Blitzer.

Preference was given to people who had elite tackles per snap and then people who missed few tackles, as it would seem to me those are the primary jobs of the LBs in the 4-3. Following that turnovers were weighted and then disruptive plays. Krzywdziak had almost no disruptive plays, but he produced the most turnovers and had such an elite tackle per snap ratio of 5.0 that it was pretty much impossible not to give him the top spot, Roscoe and Cuebas also had truly elite tackling ratios, but Cuebas didnt make many turnovers. I considered a tackling rate under 7 to be elite, as I considered 10 to be average and between to be good. Juskiw had the lowest tackling rate of all the people on the list, but his 18 disruptive plays was elite and his 8 turnovers was also very good (tied with 2 others for 2nd in turnovers), so despite having lower tackles and a lower rate I felt that he made enough messes on defense to make up for it.

CBs
1. Jason Swift - Prague Punishers
1a. Antonio "Velcro" Cromartie - Belgrade Black Hand
3. Rooster Octane - Stalingrad Gryphon Army
4. Pete Venkman - Helsinki Hell Raisers (damn you!)
5. McLovin Rosenbaum - Helsinki Hell Raisers
6. Speedy Dude - Prague Punishers
7. Carlos Rogers - Rome Gladiators
8. Max Hands - Stalingrad Gryphon Army

Similar logic, I looked at CBs based on tackles per snap, deflections per snap, interceptions per snap and then used TDs and missed tackles to sharpen the rankings.

Based on raw numbers, Jason Swift was the clear winner, however, I decided to call Cromartie 1a, because he has about 60% the snaps that Swift had and if the had the same amount of snaps that Swift had, he might have been better. Rooster Octane is in a similar situation, big deflection numbers and good int numbers for a guy that was rarely thrown at and played less than the rest. The 3 FFs and 2 less missed tackles are what split the Helsinki CBs, also Rosenbaum played 170 more snaps. Dude came in next because of snaps, then Rogers was ahead of Hands beause of snaps all 3 of those players had relatively the same snaps, but each had 100 more snaps than the one before them. dime back could have been the 3rd Punisher on this list, but due to his really high snaps, he just missed the list.

Safties

FS
1. JD McShaggy - Sooner Syndicate
2. Ty Blades - Rome Gladiators
3. De Fence - Belgrade Black Hand

SS
1. Timothy Puett - Cincinnati Tigers
2. Rocky Steele - Atlantis Stormbringers
3. Aaron Francis - Rome Gladiators

To be honest, FS was a pretty crappy position, if we were doing safties alone, all 6 probably would have been SSs, but since I decided to split it by position, to see who was elite at their own position. Same as the rest of the defense, everything per snap, tackles per snap is important, deflections and ints/FFs are also important with missed tackles and TDs helping sharpen the picture.

At FS, McShaggy simply was the best FS, he lead in pure tackles, tackle rate and FF, then Blades was hard to ignore with all his deflections and TD put him in the 2nd spot, with Fence's tackle rate and ints got him into the list.

At SS it was really hard, I looked at 20 good safeties overall and 15 were SSs (other safties didnt have the tackles or ints, or whatever). First I broke down the safties by int, because turnovers are important, then I made the list again breaking them down in order of tackle number and rate, I decided to be hard and take only 3, though there were at least 6 that were close. If there were 3 more spots it would have been Torby, Paterniti and Morbid (maybe in that order).

Puett was the best, he had the most ints, most tackles, high tackle rate, then Steele had high tackles and FFs, with Francis squeeking in due to deflections, ints and TD as well as having the lowest snaps of any of the SS.

Okay thats it for now, Ill go back and update this post tomorrow probably with the DEs and DTs, I can only waste some much time at work.
Last edited Jul 17, 2008 07:27:46
 
Bengals89
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Great write-up. Thanks Randy
 
Jiddy78
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Not McLovin damnit...He already has a HUGE head.

First the Jiddy Fructose offensive snub, now this...

Jiddy Fructose does not know what to think of this Randy...Much like when he comes home from the grocery store and while unpacking his groceries he realizes that the avocado he has purchased is no ordinary avocado...Oh no...It is a "Slimcado"...Looks like no guacamole on Fructose's chimichanga tonight.
 
Thepet
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this goes to show our defense likes everyone to get in on things and share the tackles, but our offense are all ball hogs!

nice write up.
 
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I like the write up.. seems kind of funny the only reason why Atlantis Stormbringers and Sooner Syndicate had representation is because teams would constantly rape them putting 100's, upon 100's, upon 100's, of points to pad stat..

So their defense would play like 80-100+ plays a game.. More than the usual 40-60 plays for the good defensive teams...

But Its cool... good builds would eventually become productive.. Great write up..
 
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It really is an impossible job calling the CB's if you ask me. I have a little bit better stats this year compared to the last one, but with more snaps I believe then last year. The way I see it, the less stats the less I get thrown at, and that is the best imo
 
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Actually King AR15, I did it weighted by snaps, so they produced the best PER SNAP, that way teams that were never on the field because they had a good defense still got represented because guys who had the same stats in fewer snaps always got the nod over those who had more snaps. Actually thats part of the reason why Torq's LB didnt make it despite having a TON of tackles, because he didnt create any turnovers, broken plays and then he had a low tackling RATE, but his SS did.

Also if you notice there are 3 Punishers on that list and we got the fewest defensive snaps of any team in EE Pro and it wasnt even close.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/team_stats.pl?league_id=11&conference_id=0&stat=other&sort=defensive_plays&playoffs=0
 
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DE is up.
 
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Originally posted by Jumpingjak
It really is an impossible job calling the CB's if you ask me. I have a little bit better stats this year compared to the last one, but with more snaps I believe then last year. The way I see it, the less stats the less I get thrown at, and that is the best imo


Actually Rooster Octane was my submission in this category, dime back would have been the other. The best CBs will still get stats, dime back got good stats, he just had a LOT of snaps to get them, Swift in the same stats (he was seen as the lesser of two evils I guess) got thrown at more and had huge stats, Speedy Dude benefitted on Prague as well. But Rooster Octane had few tackles, but when the ball came his way, he knocked it down or intercepted it .. at least thats what the stats looked like to me and thats why he was #3, to the two guys with just sick numbers.
 
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Originally posted by Randy03Texags
9. Brett Farva - Chernobyl Mutants


that made my season! heh, we have to have one representative from every team on the all pro team, right? (like MLB all stars)
 
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He had an elite tackling rate man, just that he didnt have much else. He was killing, 1 tackle per 5.2 snaps, that was in the elite level, but he just didnt have any disruptive plays or many turnovers, but I felt it was necessary to include him because he was "elite" in one category and didnt have any negatives, just not a lot of positives outside that.
 
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DTs are up now. I dont really care about kickers and KRs .. I might do them tomorrow and I might not. Of course after last season and a kicker costing me a league championship I guess I should care about kickers more, but really I dont.

Kickers are like lawyers .. everyone hates them until you need them
 
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Originally posted by Jiddy78
Not McLovin damnit...He already has a HUGE head.


Jiddy Fructose takes this back. He loves that guy.
 
Kenchi
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Lightning LB Barney Fyffe appreciates the recognition.

Thank You!
 
Randy03Texags
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Originally posted by Jiddy78
Originally posted by Jiddy78

Not McLovin damnit...He already has a HUGE head.


Jiddy Fructose takes this back. He loves that guy.


Ha yeah .. now you say that. Damn he has some huge games when it counts huh?
 
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