Warrior General Games

Okay, these things are always subjective, but I feel that I got a solid read on who is good and I did some interesting metrics on how to judge a player. I also made cutoffs for each position, so that I could judge players against their peers.

QB > 400 attempts, I felt that this was sufficient, 12 of the 16 starting QBs had over this. And honestly if they didnt have this many attempts, they didnt have the stats necessary to be in the running.

1. Philip J. Frye - Budapest Brawlers
2. Lance Enright - Belgrade Black Hand
3. Little Debbie - Prague Punishers

Frye was clearly the best QB, his TD/Int ratio is through the roof, high completion percentage, good yardage, the whole package. Enright had completion percentage a bit lower than most of the top tier and Debbie lacked yardage and TDs, but was better than Chipmunk due to far fewer ints throw.

HB

Parameters were TDs, YPC, Yards and if it was necessary fumbles as a negative, and >200 carries required.

1. James Martinez - Belgrade Black Hand
2. Quinton Cabrera - Rome Gladiators
3. Smooth Lloyd - Helsinki Hell Raisers

Martinez was clearly the most dominant HB, that was not the question, he had the most yards, most TDs by far, best average, whatever metric it was, he was the best. Cabrera is a notch below, but also clearly more elite than the rest of the pack. 3rd place however was a little more tricky, all of the top guys in yardage and TDs were similar, but Lloyd had an elite YPC and thats what put him over the top in my mind. Its not necessarily that you get the ball a lot, but its what you do with it when you have it. Lloyd got almost 5 YPC, thats an awful nice 2nd down to have.

FB - FB isnt really a stat based job, its hard to say who the best is and there are FBs that do a number of things, one might argue that Belgrade's FB is the best because they have the most rushing yards. Regardless, Ill put up the 3 best FBs in order of rushing and that will be our metric.

1. KID DUHALA - Stalingrad Gryphon Army
2. Busta Hole - Prague Punishers
3. Pile Mover - Dubai Lightning

WR, to be considered for WR, you needed to have over 50 catches. I considered yards, catches, yard per catch and TDs. Some people who had a lot of catches never saw the endzone or didnt do much with the ball after they got it, others did and I believe that is more reflective of the receiver, so they got the nod when things were close.

1. Dirty Hairy - Budapest Brawlers
2. Streak'a Lightnin' - Prague Punishers
3. Spyder Martinez - Belgrade Black Hand
4. Will Helicopter Franklin - Cincinnati Tigers
5. Shade Armstrong - Helsinki Hell Raisers
6. Rodney Cannon - Stalingrad Gryphon Army

Again the list is like it is primarily because I didnt weigh yards and receptions as the primary things, YPC and TDs were weighed higher and then if people were close, the guys with more catches and yards naturally were higher ranked. Im pretty sure all the top receivers are on that list, so you might only argue the order a little.

TE - Similar metric to WRs, yards, catches, YPC, also when it came down to the final factor, I looked at pancakes.

1. Prince Court - Budapest Brawlers
2. ScatKatt Bison - Prague Punishers
3. Greg "G-Reg" Olsen - Belgrade Black Hand

Basically the passing situation had 2 clear leaders, but then it came down to Olsen and Thwack for 3rd. Essentially Olsen was better because of TDs and his superior pancake stat.

Offensive Line - I used a simple enough metric for this one, snaps per pancake. To even be considered you had to have 1 pancake per 10 snaps, because thats what the competition had. One could say that I should throw in sacks allowed or something into the mix or how successful the offense was, but those are hard metrics to gauge and to slap on the OL, instead, I decided that was a good enough metric and went with that, it was pretty clear that there was big gaps between elite and non-elite OL. When this metric was close between two players at the same position, of course then the guy with more overall pancakes got the nod.

Center
1. Tommy Whitman - Rome Gladiators
2. Ninja Sexma - Dubai Lightning

Guard
1. Trip McBowen - Rome Gladiators
2. Lee Carter - Rome Gladiators (same agent as McBowen)
3. Mauler Graves - Budapest Brawlers
4. Diixon Tudep - Rome Gladiators

Tackle
1. Jimmy Plowman - Rome Gladiators
2. Mr. Brown - Budapest Brawlers
3. Bubba McBubba - Stalingrad Gryphon Army
4. Rupert Pupkin - Rome Gladiators

Clearly yall see what I see, Rome doesnt like to share. Their OL just dominates when it comes to pancaking people in short order. Of course we all know why they have the most pancakes, but that takes nothing away from the players themselves, they did a fine job where other teams may have not and they earned it.

Hrm okay no one cares then huh?

Well defense is a whole hell of a lot harder to do objectively, Im not even sure it is possible, because I figure that the best metric would be to do everything per snap, because most defensive stats are skewed to total snaps. Bad teams rack up defensive stats like tackles, forced fumbles and missed tackles and good teams get sacks, hurries and interceptions. So I figure the best metric to even it out is to see how many of whatever sacks/tackles/ints each team got per snaps.

Running teams and solid defensive teams will naturally have fewer of whatever stat, its similar to the Yards per carry/catch that I favored with the offense.

I care, I care, but of course I wasn't recommended for Running back of the year. No love for your players? I know, I know, I wasn't good enough this year.

Originally posted by Randy03Texags
Hrm okay no one cares then huh?



Where's Jiddy Fructose? Traveshamockery. Jiddy Fructose questions the authenticity of this vote. Was there an internal auditor present like at the NBA Draft lottery or what? He thinks not.

Romes last game really skews the O-line terribly. Not much we can do about it though. Maybe add two more guys to the o-line position lists too at least acknowledge the other players that probably would of made the list.

You do gotta say WOW at a 506 pancake game!!! it doubled their team pancakes! impressive.

Whitman had 59 of 143 total pancakes
Trip McBowen 34 of 89 total pancakes
Lee Carter 27 of 73 total pancakes
Diixon Tudep 43 of 106 total pancakes
Jimmy Plowman 52 of 131 total pancakes
Rupert Pupkin 29 of 70 total pancakes

Yeah man, thats what I said its hard to gauge OL, particularly because things like sacks and pancakes mean a lot from the standpoint of competition, I mean just look at the Alpha stats, its impossible to compare the two conferences because the disparity in talent.

All I have to say is that .. Prague got Dubrovnik, that also skews all of our stats as well. Rockford, Novosibirsk, Silesia and Atlantis also had the misfortune of having the top Alpha competition and considering they each had to play Prague as well, I suppose that they had even harder schedules than us.

Its hard to call quality of schedule into question when you do this man, if so it would take me even more hours than what it took me. If you want to go back and weight the OL stats, Im more than happy to take your input, as I still probably have all my snaps per pancake numbers, again I was just doing my best to be objective.

I hear ya man, I started this earlier this week, and had to quit, Not enough time. I thank you for your hard work! Its a job well done.

whenever you talk about "all" anything, it will never be totally accurate, even in real life stats are out of proportion due to competition levels faced ect. Truth is that most lists at the end of the year are tilted to stats, and yes even popularity, look at the pro bowl. Anyone who takes the time to try to make something like this legit has their work cut out for them. I am not even in your conference and looking at what you did think you did a good job.

I REALLY have to disagree with the linemen part. Although Rome's linemen were getting pancakes, look at the hurries and sacks they give up.

Hurries/Sacks
Rome: 54/13
SGA: 40/0
Belgrade: 36/1
Helinski: 30/2
Prague: 52/3

I think you did a great job with everything else though.

Correction TundaKlap,

I normally wouldn't bother with 1 of anything, BUT I owe my monsters what they earned.

Our O-line allowed ZERO sacks all season.

Like I said, I normally wouldn't bother over one, but it is a very big one!!!

Originally posted by RaiderSGA
Correction TundaKlap,

I normally wouldn't bother with 1 of anything, BUT I owe my monsters what they earned.

Our O-line allowed ZERO sacks all season.

Like I said, I normally wouldn't bother over one, but it is a very big one!!!

Yeah, I made a mistake. Dunno how, considering I KNEW you gave up 0, yet I still typed 1.

Thanks for the writeup randy, was a good read. I would be thrilled if you tried a defensive one!

I'm not in Zeta...but that's a pretty damn good write-up.

Very well done. I'd love to see who you put for defense because we have a lot of good defenders in this conference.

Good writeup, even though I'm not in Zeta. But I have to agree on the disagreements over o-line calculations. Taking just pancakes into account is the easy way to do it, but that's only part of what makes a hog great. No sacks or hurries allowed should be just as much of a factor, although that takes a lot more research and time to figure out.
Another factor is (using our team as an example) the amount of pancakes vs. good D-linemen and the amount vs. those built like Peewee Herman. On our team, when we play cupcake teams, the starters get about 11-20 plays before being pulled in favour of the backups. So not only do we never get a chance to pad our pancake stats, for the majority of our snaps, we are in against the best D-lineman this conference has to offer. And pancakes are rare against Level 24 D-linemen, unless they're built like shi-ite.
In conclusion, pancake totals are really a skewed stat that don't really reflect much.