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Looking in this WR Club it seems like the majority of the guys in here think that the only time you should invest in catching is when your guy starts dropping balls .

I think that's all wrong , and I'll tell you why:

If you look at it , I'm almost certain that it will help you reduce PDs - through the fact that you now have better catching technique and your "catching zone" is now bigger and you will be able to get the ball under control faster than otherwise and therefore the speedloss when catching a ball will also be reduced .

So instead of pumping up that expensive speed I'm gonna cap my catching instead getting my speed further than capped .

Agree/disagree anyone ?

Originally posted by Iversen5771
Looking in this WR Club it seems like the majority of the guys in here think that the only time you should invest in catching is when your guy starts dropping balls . Seems like it sometimes.
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I think that's all wrongI agree with you.

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, and I'll tell you why:

If you look at it , I'm almost certain that it will help you reduce PDs Again, I agree. However, I don't have hard evidence. It's more of a gut feeling based on my experience.
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- through the fact that you now have better catching technique and your "catching zone" is now bigger I think this is true based on a teammates WR build, but I've not tested it myself
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and you will be able to get the ball under control faster than otherwise and therefore the speedloss when catching a ball will also be reduced .I think you're right on this. I also think vision helps on this, but I think others will disagree with me on that.

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So instead of pumping up that expensive speed I'm gonna cap my catching instead getting my speed further than capped .I'd hit the 60 speed cap before I soft cap catching. I might even hit the the 68 speed cap before I soft cap catching. I'd probably hit the 60 speed/48 agility cap at least before I soft cap catching. I think catching is important, but I don't place as high a premium on it.
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Agree/disagree anyone ?
Why don't I place as high a premium on it? Because I think the most successful WRs get separation. Catching will not get you separation. It might get you more throws your direction (and into tighter coverage) and it might help you haul in more catches that you would normally not catch, but if you were faster, then you wouldn't have to worry about it anyway. Just my $0.02.

A lot of quotes on that one

But yeah , I would say of course it's great to get good seperation but I am just thinking that the difference between having your speed at 48 or 60 is not as big as the difference between 35 catching and 48 . Just a gut feeling on this as well .

We talked a bit about this last night and completely agree.

It 100% helps the range of balls you can catch, and helps catching off deflections.

Well by the time you get your base speed from 48 to 60... you could instead get your catching from 35 to 48 and have 11 points leftover to put into speed, agility, or whatever else (since it costs 24 points to go from 48 to 60 speed)

Personally my WR is a possession build so I will be getting catching to 48 and agility to 48 before going back to speed, which is also still around 48 (I think at 50) but has all my equipment.

Yea but don't jump on the catching train too early on your build. I went heavy catching to early in my build and I am going to have to use my 3 boosts to get his speed/agi up to a respectable amount.

Originally posted by Zoblefu
Well by the time you get your base speed from 48 to 60... you could instead get your catching from 35 to 48 and have 11 points leftover to put into speed, agility, or whatever else (since it costs 24 points to go from 48 to 60 speed)

Personally my WR is a possession build so I will be getting catching to 48 and agility to 48 before going back to speed, which is also still around 48 (I think at 50) but has all my equipment.

That's going to be an interesting build. I'd be too scared to do it. You're already at level 18. What level do you think you'll be before you go back to speed? I think the CBs at your level will have a definite and obvious speed advantage over you, so your separation could be absolutely nil. It will definitely be a test of catching though; if you can excel with those attributes, I'll be a very firm believer in catching.

Having 48 agility could help me make cuts faster than most CB, too.

Not saying it really relates to real football like it should, but if it did... I know my route and the CB doesn't so I always have the advantage of knowing where I'm going next and the CB's don't.

It won't be long before I can go back to speed, maybe level 21 and on get to be almost nothing but speed for a while. I think at level 20 I should have close to 48 catching 48 agility and 68 speed. I know there are faster CB out there, but I also know that there are definitely slower ones at level 20 also.

My level 13 CB has 47 agility...

Originally posted by Iversen5771
Looking in this WR Club it seems like the majority of the guys in here think that the only time you should invest in catching is when your guy starts dropping balls .

I think that's all wrong , and I'll tell you why:

If you look at it , I'm almost certain that it will help you reduce PDs - through the fact that you now have better catching technique and your "catching zone" is now bigger and you will be able to get the ball under control faster than otherwise and therefore the speedloss when catching a ball will also be reduced .

So instead of pumping up that expensive speed I'm gonna cap my catching instead getting my speed further than capped .

Agree/disagree anyone ?

I proposed this a couple of weeks ago and was ignored for the most part. http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=478576 You don't make catches like this without good hands....notice his range:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=10028511
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=10028772

Notice how smooth he catches it. I think catching is now my favorite WR skill.

Originally posted by ImTheScientist


I proposed this a couple of weeks ago and was ignored for the most part.



I remember that post , and I think I was the first one to agree with you .

But if you didn't get that I'll just make sure you understand:

What I meant was: Cosign

One more example of catching zone being expanded.....the CB thought he had an INT....I don't think so.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=10028087

^ looks like you got in a couple of jukes or head fakes there on that YAC run. VERY VERY nice.

I've been debating whether or not to go possession vs. speedster tree. Definitely plan to soft cap agility but I'm working if that's high enough to invest in those higher "agility" based specials.

Just curious , how much do you have in one hand catch ?

'Cus to me it seems like it could be one handers all of them , but of course there's no way to be sure .

But bottomline is: Catching rocks

I'm also a big fan of high catching it does seem to expand the catching zone.
This build is 50+ in catching and his speed is under 50
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=7950998

Also nothing is more fustrating than a dropped pass, especially when it could mean a 1st down.