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Achelon
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Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
I suppose with my monicker I should have avoided this thread
No, you're fine here, cause Romo throws more interceptions than touchdowns.
I suppose with my monicker I should have avoided this thread
No, you're fine here, cause Romo throws more interceptions than touchdowns.
Titus Pullo
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Originally posted by CyberNinja
No, you're fine here, cause Romo throws more interceptions than touchdowns.
Not even close to being true. http://www.nfl.com/player/tonyromo/2505354/profile
Romo Career Stats: 177 TD, 91 INT
2012: 28 TD, 19 INT
2011: 31 TD, 10 INT
2010: 11 TD, 7 INT - only 6 games played
2009: 26 TD, 9 INT
2008: 26 TD, 14 INT - 13 games played
2007: 36 TD, 19 INT
2006: 19 TD, 13 INT - 10 games started
No, you're fine here, cause Romo throws more interceptions than touchdowns.
Not even close to being true. http://www.nfl.com/player/tonyromo/2505354/profile
Romo Career Stats: 177 TD, 91 INT
2012: 28 TD, 19 INT
2011: 31 TD, 10 INT
2010: 11 TD, 7 INT - only 6 games played
2009: 26 TD, 9 INT
2008: 26 TD, 14 INT - 13 games played
2007: 36 TD, 19 INT
2006: 19 TD, 13 INT - 10 games started
http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/interceptions
Not sure what your definition of "alot" or "about as many" is.
Even with sorting the top Interception throwers, only 2 of the top 10 Interception throwing QBs had more Ints than TDs, and only 1 other was within 4.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/passingTouchdowns
If you sort by Passing TDs, you have to go all the way to 14 to get to a QB that was within 5 (rookie Andrew Luck) and all the way to #24 to find a QB that threw as many or more Interceptions than TDs (rookie Brandon Weedon).
2 out of the top 25 QBs is not my definition of alot, and more than 5 TDs than Interception is not what I would consider "about as many".
Not sure what your definition of "alot" or "about as many" is.
Even with sorting the top Interception throwers, only 2 of the top 10 Interception throwing QBs had more Ints than TDs, and only 1 other was within 4.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/passingTouchdowns
If you sort by Passing TDs, you have to go all the way to 14 to get to a QB that was within 5 (rookie Andrew Luck) and all the way to #24 to find a QB that threw as many or more Interceptions than TDs (rookie Brandon Weedon).
2 out of the top 25 QBs is not my definition of alot, and more than 5 TDs than Interception is not what I would consider "about as many".
Sellars
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Originally posted by CyberNinja
No, you're fine here, cause Romo throws more interceptions than touchdowns.
That's only true when the game actually means something
No, you're fine here, cause Romo throws more interceptions than touchdowns.
That's only true when the game actually means something
toobad4u_00
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Originally posted by Plankton
http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/interceptions
Not sure what your definition of "alot" or "about as many" is.
Even with sorting the top Interception throwers, only 2 of the top 10 Interception throwing QBs had more Ints than TDs, and only 1 other was within 4.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/passingTouchdowns
If you sort by Passing TDs, you have to go all the way to 14 to get to a QB that was within 5 (rookie Andrew Luck) and all the way to #24 to find a QB that threw as many or more Interceptions than TDs (rookie Brandon Weedon).
2 out of the top 25 QBs is not my definition of alot, and more than 5 TDs than Interception is not what I would consider "about as many".
Not sure you understand the terms here. Lots of NFL QBs probably means all of them. Now if you want to just limit it to something of the group so you can actually find the data easily perhaps you limit it to the top 32 QBs in terms of pass attempts. Therefore you would have a list of QBs from Matthew Staffard to Nick Foles. From that point you really should use ratios rather than the straight difference that you chose to use. If you choose something as conservative as a .8 Int/TD ratio then you will see 9 QBs fit that criteria (.75 and .7 have 10 and 11 respectively). I think that is more than sufficient to make his case. Granted, I would have used specific measures instead of making such a broad statement as he made, but not everyone has to think like that to be accurate.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/interceptions
Not sure what your definition of "alot" or "about as many" is.
Even with sorting the top Interception throwers, only 2 of the top 10 Interception throwing QBs had more Ints than TDs, and only 1 other was within 4.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/passingTouchdowns
If you sort by Passing TDs, you have to go all the way to 14 to get to a QB that was within 5 (rookie Andrew Luck) and all the way to #24 to find a QB that threw as many or more Interceptions than TDs (rookie Brandon Weedon).
2 out of the top 25 QBs is not my definition of alot, and more than 5 TDs than Interception is not what I would consider "about as many".
Not sure you understand the terms here. Lots of NFL QBs probably means all of them. Now if you want to just limit it to something of the group so you can actually find the data easily perhaps you limit it to the top 32 QBs in terms of pass attempts. Therefore you would have a list of QBs from Matthew Staffard to Nick Foles. From that point you really should use ratios rather than the straight difference that you chose to use. If you choose something as conservative as a .8 Int/TD ratio then you will see 9 QBs fit that criteria (.75 and .7 have 10 and 11 respectively). I think that is more than sufficient to make his case. Granted, I would have used specific measures instead of making such a broad statement as he made, but not everyone has to think like that to be accurate.
Originally posted by toobad4u_00
Not sure you understand the terms here. Lots of NFL QBs probably means all of them. Now if you want to just limit it to something of the group so you can actually find the data easily perhaps you limit it to the top 32 QBs in terms of pass attempts. Therefore you would have a list of QBs from Matthew Staffard to Nick Foles. From that point you really should use ratios rather than the straight difference that you chose to use. If you choose something as conservative as a .8 Int/TD ratio then you will see 9 QBs fit that criteria (.75 and .7 have 10 and 11 respectively). I think that is more than sufficient to make his case. Granted, I would have used specific measures instead of making such a broad statement as he made, but not everyone has to think like that to be accurate.
9 out of 32 is 28%, which is basically the same % that I reported when looking at the top Inteception throwers. I guess if 28% of a population = alot, then OK. It certainly is not half or most, so you can not claim that throwing about as many Interceptions as you do TDs is the norm, but its enough to say it is not rare.
Not sure you understand the terms here. Lots of NFL QBs probably means all of them. Now if you want to just limit it to something of the group so you can actually find the data easily perhaps you limit it to the top 32 QBs in terms of pass attempts. Therefore you would have a list of QBs from Matthew Staffard to Nick Foles. From that point you really should use ratios rather than the straight difference that you chose to use. If you choose something as conservative as a .8 Int/TD ratio then you will see 9 QBs fit that criteria (.75 and .7 have 10 and 11 respectively). I think that is more than sufficient to make his case. Granted, I would have used specific measures instead of making such a broad statement as he made, but not everyone has to think like that to be accurate.
9 out of 32 is 28%, which is basically the same % that I reported when looking at the top Inteception throwers. I guess if 28% of a population = alot, then OK. It certainly is not half or most, so you can not claim that throwing about as many Interceptions as you do TDs is the norm, but its enough to say it is not rare.
Achelon
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Originally posted by Titus Pullo
Not even close to being true. http://www.nfl.com/player/tonyromo/2505354/profile
Romo Career Stats: 177 TD, 91 INT
2012: 28 TD, 19 INT
2011: 31 TD, 10 INT
2010: 11 TD, 7 INT - only 6 games played
2009: 26 TD, 9 INT
2008: 26 TD, 14 INT - 13 games played
2007: 36 TD, 19 INT
2006: 19 TD, 13 INT - 10 games started
Originally posted by Sellars
That's only true when the game actually means something
Not even close to being true. http://www.nfl.com/player/tonyromo/2505354/profile
Romo Career Stats: 177 TD, 91 INT
2012: 28 TD, 19 INT
2011: 31 TD, 10 INT
2010: 11 TD, 7 INT - only 6 games played
2009: 26 TD, 9 INT
2008: 26 TD, 14 INT - 13 games played
2007: 36 TD, 19 INT
2006: 19 TD, 13 INT - 10 games started
Originally posted by Sellars
That's only true when the game actually means something
Mavooo
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Originally posted by Titus Pullo
Originally posted by CyberNinja
No, you're fine here, cause Romo throws more interceptions than touchdowns.
Not even close to being true. http://www.nfl.com/player/tonyromo/2505354/profile
Romo Career Stats: 177 TD, 91 INT
2012: 28 TD, 19 INT
2011: 31 TD, 10 INT
2010: 11 TD, 7 INT - only 6 games played
2009: 26 TD, 9 INT
2008: 26 TD, 14 INT - 13 games played
2007: 36 TD, 19 INT
2006: 19 TD, 13 INT - 10 games started
Maybe he meant when it mattered.
Originally posted by CyberNinja
No, you're fine here, cause Romo throws more interceptions than touchdowns.
Not even close to being true. http://www.nfl.com/player/tonyromo/2505354/profile
Romo Career Stats: 177 TD, 91 INT
2012: 28 TD, 19 INT
2011: 31 TD, 10 INT
2010: 11 TD, 7 INT - only 6 games played
2009: 26 TD, 9 INT
2008: 26 TD, 14 INT - 13 games played
2007: 36 TD, 19 INT
2006: 19 TD, 13 INT - 10 games started
Maybe he meant when it mattered.
toobad4u_00
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Originally posted by Mavooo
Maybe he meant when it mattered.
There are times when it doesn't matter in the NFL? [sarcasm]Yep, that is a great argument[/sarcasm]
Originally posted by Plankton
9 out of 32 is 28%, which is basically the same % that I reported when looking at the top Inteception throwers. I guess if 28% of a population = alot, then OK. It certainly is not half or most, so you can not claim that throwing about as many Interceptions as you do TDs is the norm, but its enough to say it is not rare.
If you really think 20% is basically the same percentage as I reported then you and I really need to talk about "nearness". .2/.28 =.714 so if you think that is really near then we should use the ratio .7 which would be 11 QBs; now we are talking 34% of the QBs. Comparatively speaking we are talking about apples and oranges when we talk about nearness of percentages and nearness of a TDs and Ints, but surely you get the point here.
My approach is more founded, comprehensive and analytical. 9 is not sufficient to say most, but it is more than sufficient to say several or many. Lots can be defined by many things, but to argue conversely the point as you have done is not reasonable.Originally posted by AlBarsch
and that 28% is what gets OCs and Head coaches fired...True, of those that fit that ratio: KC new HC and OC, NYJ new OC, CLE new HC and OC, TEN no changes, MIA no changes, JAC new HC and OC, DET no changes, and PHI new HC and OC. Note Vick and Foles both fit the criteria as Eagles.
~edit - removed double quote of plankton
Maybe he meant when it mattered.
There are times when it doesn't matter in the NFL? [sarcasm]Yep, that is a great argument[/sarcasm]
Originally posted by Plankton
9 out of 32 is 28%, which is basically the same % that I reported when looking at the top Inteception throwers. I guess if 28% of a population = alot, then OK. It certainly is not half or most, so you can not claim that throwing about as many Interceptions as you do TDs is the norm, but its enough to say it is not rare.
If you really think 20% is basically the same percentage as I reported then you and I really need to talk about "nearness". .2/.28 =.714 so if you think that is really near then we should use the ratio .7 which would be 11 QBs; now we are talking 34% of the QBs. Comparatively speaking we are talking about apples and oranges when we talk about nearness of percentages and nearness of a TDs and Ints, but surely you get the point here.
My approach is more founded, comprehensive and analytical. 9 is not sufficient to say most, but it is more than sufficient to say several or many. Lots can be defined by many things, but to argue conversely the point as you have done is not reasonable.Originally posted by AlBarsch
and that 28% is what gets OCs and Head coaches fired...True, of those that fit that ratio: KC new HC and OC, NYJ new OC, CLE new HC and OC, TEN no changes, MIA no changes, JAC new HC and OC, DET no changes, and PHI new HC and OC. Note Vick and Foles both fit the criteria as Eagles.
~edit - removed double quote of plankton
Edited by toobad4u_00 on Aug 10, 2013 17:21:11
fogie55
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dunno if there's any point in comparing anything in GLB, even WL, to the NFL when it comes to stats.
for one thing, teams in GLB execute at least 1.5 (a very conservative offense) if not twice as many plays on average in a 60-minute game than NFL teams. so you'd really have to compare 1 GLB season to 2 NFL seasons.
for one thing, teams in GLB execute at least 1.5 (a very conservative offense) if not twice as many plays on average in a 60-minute game than NFL teams. so you'd really have to compare 1 GLB season to 2 NFL seasons.
Yes there are plenty of QB's in the NFL that throw as many interceptions as TD's... they're called "backups" and "clipboard holders". 
toobad4u_00
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Originally posted by fogie55
dunno if there's any point in comparing anything in GLB, even WL, to the NFL when it comes to stats.
for one thing, teams in GLB execute at least 1.5 (a very conservative offense) if not twice as many plays on average in a 60-minute game than NFL teams. so you'd really have to compare 1 GLB season to 2 NFL seasons.
This I agree with, but that doesn't make the statement made inaccurate. I also would like to add that in the WL the Int / TD ratio doesn't seem all that out of whack which would render his argument pointless if that was in fact his attempt. I did not do any real looking into the statistics other than looking at the leaders page so don't crucify me if the ratios are completely crazy and I was wrong. I am just saying that in skimming over the ratios I don't see anything that makes me think there is a major difference. There are some QBs with more Picks than TDs and some that are near... just in skimming seems to be at least somewhat inline.
Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
Yes there are plenty of QB's in the NFL that throw as many interceptions as TD's... they're called "backups" and "clipboard holders".This statement is inaccurate.
In 2012 there were 5 QBs who threw as many or more picks than TDs. My guess is at least 2 of them will start off the 2013 season as starters. In 2011 Carson Palmer and Josh Freeman were quite adept at throwing picks, but not losing their starting status. It happened to 7 QBs in 2010, but I don't really see any of them as being notable. In 2009 there were 8 QBs who had as many or more picks than TDs. Some of these starters it has happened to more than once. It happened to Brett Favre 6 times. I use Favre not because I like or dislike him, but because he is one of the extreme cases.
dunno if there's any point in comparing anything in GLB, even WL, to the NFL when it comes to stats.
for one thing, teams in GLB execute at least 1.5 (a very conservative offense) if not twice as many plays on average in a 60-minute game than NFL teams. so you'd really have to compare 1 GLB season to 2 NFL seasons.
This I agree with, but that doesn't make the statement made inaccurate. I also would like to add that in the WL the Int / TD ratio doesn't seem all that out of whack which would render his argument pointless if that was in fact his attempt. I did not do any real looking into the statistics other than looking at the leaders page so don't crucify me if the ratios are completely crazy and I was wrong. I am just saying that in skimming over the ratios I don't see anything that makes me think there is a major difference. There are some QBs with more Picks than TDs and some that are near... just in skimming seems to be at least somewhat inline.
Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
Yes there are plenty of QB's in the NFL that throw as many interceptions as TD's... they're called "backups" and "clipboard holders".
This statement is inaccurate.In 2012 there were 5 QBs who threw as many or more picks than TDs. My guess is at least 2 of them will start off the 2013 season as starters. In 2011 Carson Palmer and Josh Freeman were quite adept at throwing picks, but not losing their starting status. It happened to 7 QBs in 2010, but I don't really see any of them as being notable. In 2009 there were 8 QBs who had as many or more picks than TDs. Some of these starters it has happened to more than once. It happened to Brett Favre 6 times. I use Favre not because I like or dislike him, but because he is one of the extreme cases.
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