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do you roll for 3 AEQ pieces ( 4 with CEQ) or 2 and the CEQ is included for the 3rd in total beginning at level 51?

Most builds aim for 3 or 4 AEQ pieces (CEQ not included in that total).

I usually go for 4 AEQ and then CEQ as well... but that's because I'm not the best dot builder

Originally posted by Dustin.
I usually go for 4 AEQ and then CEQ as well... but that's because I'm not the best dot builder

i also prefer 4. some of my dots do have 3 three. whatever im in the mood for i usually do.

I've seen a lot of great dots with both 3 pieces of AEQ and 4 pieces of AEQ.

It all depends on what you're trying to build, and what sorts of good +% bonuses or SAs are available for your dot. If you go 4 AEQ, your dot's Attributes aren't going to be quite as high because you'll have to sacrifice some Multi-Training to get enough BTs for that 4th piece, so you have to make sure that the added bonus from that 4th piece of AEQ is worth the loss of those training gains.

Originally posted by Novus
I've seen a lot of great dots with both 3 pieces of AEQ and 4 pieces of AEQ.

It all depends on what you're trying to build, and what sorts of good +% bonuses or SAs are available for your dot. If you go 4 AEQ, your dot's Attributes aren't going to be quite as high because you'll have to sacrifice some Multi-Training to get enough BTs for that 4th piece, so you have to make sure that the added bonus from that 4th piece of AEQ is worth the loss of those training gains.

Or... you can get REALLY lucky with your rolls. I shoot for 4 every time but rolling takes it's toll more often than not... so sometimes I have to "settle" for 3. Which is ok cuz I just use the BT's for SP's (or training) at the last boost. If you keep track of your numbers, it's kinda easy to figure out as you go along. If you DO get lucky with several AEQ rolls (I once got 3 pieces of AEQ for one dot that I nailed it on the very first roll all 3 times. Made getting the 4th piece really easy! ) then you'll find hitting 4 pieces isn't that hard. But if it takes 10-20 rolls for each piece you try for, it can get tricky quick.

Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
Or... you can get REALLY lucky with your rolls. I shoot for 4 every time but rolling takes it's toll more often than not... so sometimes I have to "settle" for 3. Which is ok cuz I just use the BT's for SP's (or training) at the last boost. If you keep track of your numbers, it's kinda easy to figure out as you go along. If you DO get lucky with several AEQ rolls (I once got 3 pieces of AEQ for one dot that I nailed it on the very first roll all 3 times. Made getting the 4th piece really easy! ) then you'll find hitting 4 pieces isn't that hard. But if it takes 10-20 rolls for each piece you try for, it can get tricky quick.

Yeah, if you get lucky on your rolls, push for 4 pieces, absolutely.

I get very un-lucky and settle for 2 lol. But I've never had more than one dot make PRO so Maybe I'm just bad

Originally posted by suske127
I get very un-lucky and settle for 2 lol. But I've never had more than one dot make PRO so Maybe I'm just bad

Several questions. #1, when do you start rolling for your AEQ? #2, how many times do you roll per one sitting? (I mean, when you start rolling for a piece, how many times will you sit there right then and keep rolling?) And, #3, do you have a "AEQ plan" as to which pieces you want most -to- least? (Meaning what will you jump on in a blink and what will cause to to "think about taking it"?)

This is just my way of doing it but it has worked pretty well for quite a while now so I have no reason to change my approach... yet.
#1, I start rolling when I have the following 2 things ready to go. #1 is the Dot's level. You prefer to roll for AEQ when you get 4 or more pieces to choose from. Most shoot for an even higher number. And, #2 is I want 112 BT's in hand before I start rolling. (I'll explain this reason a bit later.)
#2, (and here's the "later" I mentioned.) I roll no more than 4 times at each attempt. Reason? It costs 3 BT's per refresh... and you get 12 Bt's for each 4-way multi-training session. Therefore you can roll 4 times... and if you don't get what you want, wait until next training session passes and you'll have 112 BT's again. The reason for the extra 100 BT's is the worst cost it will take you to fully trick out an AEQ piece is if you buy a +3 piece to your primary and add the 5% bonus of your choice to it. The piece will cost you around 20 BT's (give or take a few BT's)... and adding the 5% bonus will cost you 75 BT's. 100 is a safe bet to cover any cost of any AEQ piece when rolling for it... and the 12 is your roll cost.
#3 is the "plan" I use for which pieces are best-to-least best that I'll accept when rolling See Below:

Piece Value:
#1 is the 5% bonus of desire and +3 to your primary. The holy grail of AEQ pieces and very rare when rolling.
#2 is the 5% bonus of desire ONLY. You then can add on the +3 boost to your primary skill at a cost of 50 BT's.
#3 is the +3 to your primary ONLY. You can then add on the 5% bonus of desire for 75 BT's.
After these 3 top choices come a few others that you might have to "settle for" if you get to where you've spent over 48 BT's (4 rolling sessions of 4 rolls each session) rolling and haven't gotten one of those above:
#4 is a %5 bonus of desire AND a +3 to a major skill that isn't your primary.
#5 is a +3 to a major skill that isn't your primary ONLY. Then you add on the 5% bonus.
#6 is a +2 to your primary AND a 5% bonus of desire.
And, lastly, #7 is a +2 to your primary ONLY. Then you add on the 5% bonus.

Any piece that isn't listed is NOT worth taking IMO.

Also, I recently have subscribed to adding this to my approach: Once you get your AEQ piece, don't put any BT's into it (beyond adding a 5% bonus or a +3 to primary). Put it aside and start going for your next piece. Do this until you have 3 pieces. Now you can bump them up until they're maxed out. Now you'll KNOW if you can afford to roll for a 4th piece. (You can also do the math but this is just easier for me.)

Hope this helps you (and anyone else that needed it) out when rolling for AEQ. Like I said... it's not the gospel, but it has worked very well for me for so long.