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Okay I have found the upgrades on my AEQ is always behind my basic EQ...so my question is..

When does it become more important to have the larger numbers of the basic football skills versus the SA's that come with the AEQ.

I think the SA once you get the AEQ is more important than the basic EQ number, but that is what everyone always seems to be worried about.

Originally posted by TheJohnce
Okay I have found the upgrades on my AEQ is always behind my basic EQ...so my question is..

When does it become more important to have the larger numbers of the basic football skills versus the SA's that come with the AEQ.

I think the SA once you get the AEQ is more important than the basic EQ number, but that is what everyone always seems to be worried about.

Your question is a little hard to understand, but one sentence in particular -- "Okay I have found the upgrades on my AEQ is always behind my basic EQ..." -- stood out to me. In addition to the upgrades every 8th level, have you also been remembering to enhance your AEQ as well? If you're not sure what I'm talking about, go to your Equipment page and look for the little picture icons next to the name of each AEQ piece. Hover your mouse over each icon, and if one of them pops up with "Enhance," you need to click on that and Enhance that AEQ piece. If you've been forgetting to do that, that would explain why your AEQ is always "behind" your basic EQ.

I'm also wondering, when you buy AEQ, what pieces are you buying? You generally want to only buy one of these pieces, nothing else:
- JUST a +3 bonus to your main attribute, nothing else (so you can Enhance it with a +5% roll bonus or a +1 SA)
- JUST a +5% roll bonus for an important roll, nothing else (so you can Enhance it with a +3 attribute bonus)
- JUST a +1 SA bonus to a VERY important SA, nothing else (so again, you can Enhance it with a +3 attribute bonus)
- +3 to your main attribute AND +5% roll bonus for an important roll (can't be Enhanced, but it doesn't need to be)
- +3 to your main attribute AND +1 SA bonus to a VERY important SA (again, can't be Enhanced, but it doesn't need to be)

In my opinion, those are the ONLY pieces you should bother to buy. I've also seen others argue than in some circumstances buying a +2 Attribute piece instead of a +3 Attribute piece is okay, and while I disagree, I understand the argument. But you really shouldn't bother buying any pieces that don't fit my list above.

Hopefully, somewhere in there I answered your question. I just wasn't sure what your question was.

Alot of great info above. I would just add two things.

If you do not have enough BTs to upgrade multiple AE, it is far better to upgrade one AE fully vs. not being able to upgrade multiple ones. I am not sure if that is what you are trying to do, but if so, I would recommend picking one AE as your most important and only spend BTs on it until it is fully upgraded, then do the next. That might mean you would be better off equiping normal EQ for the other slots, but if you plan out your BTs right, you will eventually have all the AE upgraded.

With respect to attribute vs. SA / % bonus, I generally will not give up more than 2 or 3 points of an attribute to get the bonus as I am upgrading my AE. However, I can not say for sure what is the best point. For instance, I am upgrading my last AE on my QB right now. He has +10 Throwing normal gear and the AE is +6 Throwing +8% Pass Quality. I have not equipped the AE, as I am not willing to give up 4 Throwing for the PQ% (especially since it is my 3rd PQ% AE and thus the bonus is 1/4th the face value). However, when it gets to +8 Throwing / +10% PQ I might switch to the AE.

Hope this helps some.

Well when you first start out you get all of your basic EQ and start upgrading them at regular intervals. I you are looking to by an AEQ (let's look at WR) of +3 speed and a juke SA...that's going to take a bit of saving BT. so by the time you get it you have already upgraded the basic to +5 or +6.

I see what you are saying about upgrading each AEQ after you buy it, although I have always waited and bought all 4 before I start upgrading each piece...but initially there is still a couple points difference as you collect the needed BTs...

SO do you start using the AEQ right away or wait until you have been able to upgrade it to match where the basic EQ is?

Originally posted by TheJohnce
SO do you start using the AEQ right away or wait until you have been able to upgrade it to match where the basic EQ is?

It all depends. There are times when I've switched to AEQ when it was still 1 or 2 points "behind" the Regular Eq just because it had a really nice +% bonus that I wanted to start getting use out of. You just have to decide if the trade-off is worth it or not for your own dot.

Originally posted by Novus
It all depends. There are times when I've switched to AEQ when it was still 1 or 2 points "behind" the Regular Eq just because it had a really nice +% bonus that I wanted to start getting use out of. You just have to decide if the trade-off is worth it or not for your own dot.

Agree with this, I do. Your AEQ will generally be behind your EQ until pretty late in the build. Remember... EQ upgrades are free... AEQ costs BT's which you have to save up for. If the % is killer, I've gone as far as a difference or 5 (in the skill bonus). Most people doing AEQ are going after top quality %'s and the benefits of those %'s far outweigh the small lack of extra skill bonus you get with going just EQ. IMO.

Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
Agree with this, I do. Your AEQ will generally be behind your EQ until pretty late in the build. Remember... EQ upgrades are free... AEQ costs BT's which you have to save up for. If the % is killer, I've gone as far as a difference or 5 (in the skill bonus). Most people doing AEQ are going after top quality %'s and the benefits of those %'s far outweigh the small lack of extra skill bonus you get with going just EQ. IMO.

See that's why I asked the question. I agree completely about the % or SA addition from the AEQ being more important than just the skill number you get on the EQ.

But as soon as you switch over, then you have people complaining that your + Equipment number isn't right because it isn't as high as someone else with the same type player.

People get caught up in the numbers, but in the end, it is all about the results on the field. If your players are performing well with partially upgraded AE vs fully upgraded Normal EQ, then I would not worry about what other people say.

Originally posted by TheJohnce
See that's why I asked the question. I agree completely about the % or SA addition from the AEQ being more important than just the skill number you get on the EQ.

But as soon as you switch over, then you have people complaining that your + Equipment number isn't right because it isn't as high as someone else with the same type player.

Here's a link to this very question (it has slipped onto page #3 which is probably why you didn't see it before).

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=5082292&page=2

Have a good read and hope this helps you out.

(P.S. here's another link to some more good info on costs of AEQ: http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=5083033&page=3 )