Warrior General Games

I'm looking at this guy
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2542916

I Can find maybe 3 LTS triggers and 120 PT.

I know that PT gets to trigger first but if it doesn't trigger it doesn't seem like LTS is getting a shot.

On some dudes it gets 30% of the PT broken tackles. So something is factoring into whether LTS is worthless.

Player speed?

Stiff Arm fired twice as much as Power Thru this season for me. I have 4 in Stiff Arm and 7 in Power Thru.

The point is that as a power back you want all 3 of those power skills. Especially PT and LTS because they are favored SA's.

Not to mention that power back is terrible.

Sure he is. But why isn't his lts firing?

Because Power Thru is.

magic

Remember that tackle-breaking SAs only show up in the PBP when you do break a tackle. So they're actually firing a lot more, but their bonus to the break tackle score wasn't high enough and therefore you got tackled. That means for Lower the Shoulder to show up in the pbp you need the following: #1) Power Through & Spin not to fire, #2) Lower the Shoulder to fire successfully, and #3) for the break tackle score to be close enough to the defender's tackle score for Lower the Shoulder's relatively small bonus to make the difference.

Originally posted by jdbolick
Remember that tackle-breaking SAs only show up in the PBP when you do break a tackle. So they're actually firing a lot more, but their bonus to the break tackle score wasn't high enough and therefore you got tackled. That means for Lower the Shoulder to show up in the pbp you need the following: #1) Power Through & Spin not to fire, #2) Lower the Shoulder to fire successfully, and #3) for the break tackle score to be close enough to the defender's tackle score for Lower the Shoulder's relatively small bonus to make the difference.

exactly.

Broken tackle for the listed dot, for all S34 games (preseason/postseason incl.)

Broken Tackles
No SA - 39 (26 normal tackle attempts, 13 diving tackle attempts)
LTS - 8 (4 normal, 4 diving)
Stiff Arm - 13 (6 normal, 7 diving)
Power Thru - 222 (104 normal, 118 diving)

Originally posted by aaasahi
Originally posted by bhall43

That power back is terrible.



probably why it doesnt fire like you want it.

For discussion purposes, I'm including my powerbacks stats from this season below. Note, basically had a wasted season but I don't think that detracts from the broken tackle breakdown.

Broken Tackles
No SA - 79 (35 normal, 44 diving)
LTS - 45 (34 normal, 11 diving)
Stiff Arm - 10 (8 normal, 2 diving)
Power Thru - 59 (29 normal, 30 diving)


Build is open for you to draw your own conclusions as to why LTS "works" for one dot but not the other: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2354017

Originally posted by aaasahi
Originally posted by bhall43

That power back is terrible.



*eyeroll*
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2503754 this open build is alright

and he didn't have LTS fire but 2x all season compared to 80x for PT

Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
For discussion purposes, I'm including my powerbacks stats from this season below. Note, basically had a wasted season but I don't think that detracts from the broken tackle breakdown.

Broken Tackles
No SA - 79 (35 normal, 44 diving)
LTS - 45 (34 normal, 11 diving)
Stiff Arm - 10 (8 normal, 2 diving)
Power Thru - 59 (29 normal, 30 diving)


Build is open for you to draw your own conclusions as to why LTS "works" for one dot but not the other: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2354017

the only thing I can find different about ur builds from the 2nd one I linked is you have 15 higher jumping and vision and only 7lts/7pt when he has 10lts/10pt...

unless jumping vision are huge in LTS then it seems to me like 10PT maybe disabling LTS