Please post in support and I will add your name below. Don't lock the thread either, it's a viable discussion point. Normal Leagues are ridiculously easy, and Elite Leagues ridiculously hard. People want games that are hard/difficult every season, some games that could go either way and games where they are expecting to win. By bringing regions back, co-ordinators and owners won't become burned out or/and uninterested at the end of the season after gameplanning for 16 games plus the playoffs. The removal of regions has contributed to the decline of this game.
Forum > Suggestions > Bring Back the Regions; Elite, Competitive and Normal Leagues Are not working
I agree with bringing regions back, but don't really want to see league re-structured. Just re-named I suppose.
There are not enough teams to support regions any longer. In the Semi-Pro age group, there are not even enough teams for Elite to be competitive. 7 out of the 16 games in Semi-Pro Elite yesterday were won by 70+ points.
The largest age bracket that is not currently regionalized is Regional Pro. Even there, there are only 8 leagues, and a quick look at the most recent scores from the 8th league shows that it ridiculously unbalanced and half the teams probably are or should be CPU teams.
Perhaps this would have worked in the past, but this ship has already sailed.
The largest age bracket that is not currently regionalized is Regional Pro. Even there, there are only 8 leagues, and a quick look at the most recent scores from the 8th league shows that it ridiculously unbalanced and half the teams probably are or should be CPU teams.
Perhaps this would have worked in the past, but this ship has already sailed.
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I think what we need is a couple decent CPU teams in the regular and competitive leagues. Teams good enough to require any league champion that would potentially get promoted to an Elite league to be capable of competing in an elite league. That would solve the problem of teams moving into elite that would get crushed, of course it wouldn't solve the problem that the then majority of the teams would be pressed by a team of CPU dots and the complaints that would follow. But, I think until GLB attracts more people, some fix needs to be in place.
Originally posted by Dr. E
I think what we need is a couple decent CPU teams in the regular and competitive leagues. Teams good enough to require any league champion that would potentially get promoted to an Elite league to be capable of competing in an elite league. That would solve the problem of teams moving into elite that would get crushed, of course it wouldn't solve the problem that the then majority of the teams would be pressed by a team of CPU dots and the complaints that would follow. But, I think until GLB attracts more people, some fix needs to be in place.
That's not a bad idea, tbh. Everyone gripes about losing to CPU teams, but that is because the expectation is that they are easy wins. In other games, you can not always expect to beat the computer. There are difficulty settings in those games which determine how difficult the computer opponents are (which would perhaps be equivalent to our Elite / Competitive / Regular leagues). If you choose to play on Nightmare, you get beat down if you don't have the skill and gear to handle it. You don't complain about it, you just get better.
If GLB took that type of approach, they could fill leagues with CPU teams that are appropriate to the league type....Elite CPU teams would have good ELs, so that they are not beaten by attributes as much as by gameplanning (which should still be very doable for a team worthy of Elite). Competitive CPU teams would have decent ELs, and Normal CPU teams would be equivalent to what they are now. In that scenario, you don't have to promote a team that is not Elite-worthy just to fill in the 32 team requirement for the Elite league.
I'm sure there are some obvious flaws with that tho...just none coming to mind immediately.
I think what we need is a couple decent CPU teams in the regular and competitive leagues. Teams good enough to require any league champion that would potentially get promoted to an Elite league to be capable of competing in an elite league. That would solve the problem of teams moving into elite that would get crushed, of course it wouldn't solve the problem that the then majority of the teams would be pressed by a team of CPU dots and the complaints that would follow. But, I think until GLB attracts more people, some fix needs to be in place.
That's not a bad idea, tbh. Everyone gripes about losing to CPU teams, but that is because the expectation is that they are easy wins. In other games, you can not always expect to beat the computer. There are difficulty settings in those games which determine how difficult the computer opponents are (which would perhaps be equivalent to our Elite / Competitive / Regular leagues). If you choose to play on Nightmare, you get beat down if you don't have the skill and gear to handle it. You don't complain about it, you just get better.
If GLB took that type of approach, they could fill leagues with CPU teams that are appropriate to the league type....Elite CPU teams would have good ELs, so that they are not beaten by attributes as much as by gameplanning (which should still be very doable for a team worthy of Elite). Competitive CPU teams would have decent ELs, and Normal CPU teams would be equivalent to what they are now. In that scenario, you don't have to promote a team that is not Elite-worthy just to fill in the 32 team requirement for the Elite league.
I'm sure there are some obvious flaws with that tho...just none coming to mind immediately.
Edited by Plankton on Apr 12, 2013 12:11:10
Edited by Plankton on Apr 12, 2013 12:10:43
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Originally posted by Dr. E
I think what we need is a couple decent CPU teams in the regular and competitive leagues. Teams good enough to require any league champion that would potentially get promoted to an Elite league to be capable of competing in an elite league. That would solve the problem of teams moving into elite that would get crushed, of course it wouldn't solve the problem that the then majority of the teams would be pressed by a team of CPU dots and the complaints that would follow. But, I think until GLB attracts more people, some fix needs to be in place.
well who says that the league has to have 32 teams? If they do have to have 32 teams for whatever reason, then I would say we should have human teams in them (Elite) before CPU teams.
If they can make the Elite leagues smaller, then of course they would need to restructure the play-offs. Problem I do see with this, is that Elite leagues would have a longer off-season, or the play-off structure would have to have byes, to compensate for the rest of the GLB seasons. I could live with the bye weeks, but I wouldn't like the longer off-season.
I think what we need is a couple decent CPU teams in the regular and competitive leagues. Teams good enough to require any league champion that would potentially get promoted to an Elite league to be capable of competing in an elite league. That would solve the problem of teams moving into elite that would get crushed, of course it wouldn't solve the problem that the then majority of the teams would be pressed by a team of CPU dots and the complaints that would follow. But, I think until GLB attracts more people, some fix needs to be in place.
well who says that the league has to have 32 teams? If they do have to have 32 teams for whatever reason, then I would say we should have human teams in them (Elite) before CPU teams.
If they can make the Elite leagues smaller, then of course they would need to restructure the play-offs. Problem I do see with this, is that Elite leagues would have a longer off-season, or the play-off structure would have to have byes, to compensate for the rest of the GLB seasons. I could live with the bye weeks, but I wouldn't like the longer off-season.
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.Originally posted by English Pats Fan
People want games that are hard/difficult every season, some games that could go either way and games where they are expecting to win.
Lock this up. He doesn't understand the basics of 1 on 1 games. There is no way that everyone wins about 75% of their games.
People want games that are hard/difficult every season, some games that could go either way and games where they are expecting to win.
Lock this up. He doesn't understand the basics of 1 on 1 games. There is no way that everyone wins about 75% of their games.
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How does re-naming the leagues help with the competition issue? Teams build for National Pro and World league so many teams do not care about their record until the reach those leagues.
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Originally posted by VenomCoach
Lock this up. He doesn't understand the basics of 1 on 1 games. There is no way that everyone wins about 75% of their games.
I don't think that was his point. not sure you are being srs.
Lock this up. He doesn't understand the basics of 1 on 1 games. There is no way that everyone wins about 75% of their games.
I don't think that was his point. not sure you are being srs.
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+10000000000000000000000000000 to the suggestion
This semi-rookiepeewee competitive but not elite league #2493 shit sucks.
This semi-rookiepeewee competitive but not elite league #2493 shit sucks.
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Originally posted by Plankton
There are not enough teams to support regions any longer. In the Semi-Pro age group, there are not even enough teams for Elite to be competitive. 7 out of the 16 games in Semi-Pro Elite yesterday were won by 70+ points.
The largest age bracket that is not currently regionalized is Regional Pro. Even there, there are only 8 leagues, and a quick look at the most recent scores from the 8th league shows that it ridiculously unbalanced and half the teams probably are or should be CPU teams.
Perhaps this would have worked in the past, but this ship has already sailed.
The names can be changed without bringing back the pyramid, tbh.
There are not enough teams to support regions any longer. In the Semi-Pro age group, there are not even enough teams for Elite to be competitive. 7 out of the 16 games in Semi-Pro Elite yesterday were won by 70+ points.
The largest age bracket that is not currently regionalized is Regional Pro. Even there, there are only 8 leagues, and a quick look at the most recent scores from the 8th league shows that it ridiculously unbalanced and half the teams probably are or should be CPU teams.
Perhaps this would have worked in the past, but this ship has already sailed.
The names can be changed without bringing back the pyramid, tbh.
Originally posted by Plankton
There are not enough teams to support regions any longer. In the Semi-Pro age group, there are not even enough teams for Elite to be competitive. 7 out of the 16 games in Semi-Pro Elite yesterday were won by 70+ points.
The largest age bracket that is not currently regionalized is Regional Pro. Even there, there are only 8 leagues, and a quick look at the most recent scores from the 8th league shows that it ridiculously unbalanced and half the teams probably are or should be CPU teams.
Perhaps this would have worked in the past, but this ship has already sailed.
What has to happen but what they will not do is some sort of Skill Point Cap across the league with a penalty if violated.
There are not enough teams to support regions any longer. In the Semi-Pro age group, there are not even enough teams for Elite to be competitive. 7 out of the 16 games in Semi-Pro Elite yesterday were won by 70+ points.
The largest age bracket that is not currently regionalized is Regional Pro. Even there, there are only 8 leagues, and a quick look at the most recent scores from the 8th league shows that it ridiculously unbalanced and half the teams probably are or should be CPU teams.
Perhaps this would have worked in the past, but this ship has already sailed.
What has to happen but what they will not do is some sort of Skill Point Cap across the league with a penalty if violated.
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Originally posted by yello1
What has to happen but what they will not do is some sort of Skill Point Cap across the league with a penalty if violated.
lol
What has to happen but what they will not do is some sort of Skill Point Cap across the league with a penalty if violated.
lol
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Originally posted by yello1
What has to happen but what they will not do is some sort of Skill Point Cap across the league with a penalty if violated.
just stop this kind of nonsense right now.
What has to happen but what they will not do is some sort of Skill Point Cap across the league with a penalty if violated.
just stop this kind of nonsense right now.
Originally posted by Dub J
The names can be changed without bringing back the pyramid, tbh.
What good is changing a name? If you keep the current regions in Nat Pro, and make it a straight line vs. pyramid, you still would need 4 leagues per age group and yet there are not even 32 teams in the Semi-Pro age group that are competitive with one another (using Bort's definition of competitive i.e. within 70 points)
The names can be changed without bringing back the pyramid, tbh.
What good is changing a name? If you keep the current regions in Nat Pro, and make it a straight line vs. pyramid, you still would need 4 leagues per age group and yet there are not even 32 teams in the Semi-Pro age group that are competitive with one another (using Bort's definition of competitive i.e. within 70 points)
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