Warrior General Games

This is a question for the devs:

What is the current scaling for level/effective level for teams that are under levelled in their league/division?

The reason I ask is, A 49 EL average team just beat my 60 EL average team, and not just beat, they manhandled them. My power HB who normally breaks on average 1 tackle per rush against 60 EL average teams only broke 2 tackles on 9 rushes against a team that is 11 ELs lower in stats.

Not only that, but their linemen were winning battles consistently on both sides of the ball, their receivers were outmanning our corners, and our receivers could hardly catch a ball. Stuff that is not typical when versing opponents with much higher EL.

This leads me to believe that there is a scaling factor when the team average level is significantly lower than their opponent, and it looks like it is a little bit overpowered as 49 EL teams are whooping up on 59 & 60 EL teams.

There is no scaling. You likely just got beat from a tactical perspective.

Also, EL is merely a value based on a player's total SP value. It doesn't always reflect player quality.

The Knights have always been a scary non-boost team. I remember most teams sweating them out in elite last season.

One guy has control over the entire team as he owns all the dots on the roster and runs the O, D, and STs. We beat them pretty easily last season but we game planned for them. A team like Clandestine will beat you if you take them lightly.

Also would not be surprised if buzz temp boosts and has jacked up seasonal promos.

This game, right?
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=2314851

And your team is the Huskies, who lost 27-0.

Running the scout tool on that game on your defense, I see that you struggled to contain their QB runs and also gave up a lot of big gains through the air.

As Romo said, they don't get any scaling at all, since they have a human roster and you have a human roster. Looks like they gameplanned for you and exposed some weaknesses in your D, and I'm willing to bet that whoever put together the Huskies gameplan probably just didn't take the Knights very seriously due to the level gap.

I'd really have to dig in a lot more to know more, which I'm not gonna do. But it may be worth your while to PM both the owners of the Huskies and the Knights and ask them both what happened. It's probably the scenario I outlined above.

Also, Dub J is usually right.

Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
There is no scaling. You likely just got beat from a tactical perspective.

Also, EL is merely a value based on a player's total SP value. It doesn't always reflect player quality.

Tactical perspective.. It doesn't matter how you organize the plays or AI when their receivers are catching balls in coverage and their DEs are blowing passed tackles like child's play.

The only thing that *might* make sense to me is what Dub J points out with temp boosts, but a team's average SP value being 120 points less should reflect that their players have plenty of less stat points. My level 56/63 Power HB (990 sp) already has 98 strength, 92 carrying and 12% break tackle, but was getting tackled easily by a level 42/48 CB (779 sp), and typically breaks tackles by much higher level players (LB and DL included) without much trouble.

Originally posted by Novus
This game, right?
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=2314851

And your team is the Huskies, who lost 27-0.

Running the scout tool on that game on your defense, I see that you struggled to contain their QB runs and also gave up a lot of big gains through the air.

As Romo said, they don't get any scaling at all, since they have a human roster and you have a human roster. Looks like they gameplanned for you and exposed some weaknesses in your D, and I'm willing to bet that whoever put together the Huskies gameplan probably just didn't take the Knights very seriously due to the level gap.

I'd really have to dig in a lot more to know more, which I'm not gonna do. But it may be worth your while to PM both the owners of the Huskies and the Knights and ask them both what happened. It's probably the scenario I outlined above.

Yes, we did get beat through the air often, and we couldn't do much in the run game as we couldn't break tackles. The game plan wasn't bad though, if you watch the game, you'll see their receivers constantly winning jump ball battles and our receivers constantly losing them. So what in the sim determines that if not their height and stats?

My power HB breaks on average 1 tackle per rush. In this game he broke 1 tackle per 5 rushes on average, against a much lower level team. That is not based on game planning, that is just stats. So that doesn't make sense to me.

As others have said, there is no scaling for human teams.

The high amount of TFLs signal that you were predictable and that they knew what you were calling.

Originally posted by Novus
Also, Dub J is usually right.

In your face, jd.

Originally posted by Dub J
Originally posted by Novus

Also, Dub J is usually right.

In your face, jd.



it doesn't mean as much coming from Novus - I don't think JD recognizes any of his posts

Stop trolling me, boy.

red is wrong once again and as always...I'm right.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=5063397&page=6#47142073