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Since this really didn't belong in PLFT:

Originally posted by jdbolick
DS already got him. Why they need other people to give them their dots, I don't know.


Originally posted by MadMustaff
Originally posted by jdbolick
DS already got him. Why they need other people to give them their dots, I don't know.
DS is dissolved. I have my 2 WL teams which is comprised of agents from old the DS network and various agents from all over GLB. Hays runs his 2 teams which is mainly his dots. I don't see what the big deal is.. Networks/ stand alone teams. They're still 55 man rosters with same playing field as all other teams. recruit, build roster, establish va plan, set tactics and AI, game plan, run sim. The best team wins. Stop crying and get better people.


Originally posted by jdbolick
Originally posted by Note from the Owner

DOTBALL SYNDICATE
Odessa Mojo, Cincinnati Shockers, Carthage Mad Clash, Nairobi Warthogs, The Bier Markt, Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry, District 9 Prawns


Bhall has rather accurately pointed out the boredom that comes from one network making up a third of the World League. Why does no one praise DS the way they did Valhalla or HHWC? Those teams were singular entities that had to make it on their own. DS is a corporation that dominates GLB through massive resources. And it's not like someone signing with one of your teams means one of your dots then becomes available to the rest of us. They end up buried on some irrelevant National Pro or Regional Pro team within the network. Look, no one can deny your success is well earned but at the same time you shouldn't deny that you've been bad for GLB.

edit:
Basically, you're dot-WalMart.


Originally posted by MadMustaff
So.. I make a public announcement that Mojo officially leaves DS. I'll still recruit the best dots and remain in the hunt for Gold every season as a stand alone team. Maybe get a few more Golds.. then Mojo is in Vahalla and HHWC class? not to mention HHWC combined teams and agents to propel them into greatness. The only difference is we had a Badgerbacker and hays that for what every reason chooses make 100 dots per season.

I'm not a fan of having so many teams at the top level being part of the same group either...and I agree it might not be the greatest thing for the game overall.

It's also not great for GLB that 1% of the agents control of 95% of the WL. So what's the larger problem? DS or the 1% that own this game at the highest level?


Originally posted by kwankwan
Poor Rodman...

Anyways... not sure you can include Valhalla since I don't think alloy did much recruiting for that team..

The real problem here is that there aren't anywhere near the quantity of good/quality dots like there used to be in the game. I don't blame DS for this, but the game it self... few people are playing this game, and from what I've seen, when people have FAs they post in the forums they belong to before posting in the PLFT forum.


Originally posted by jdbolick
Originally posted by MadMustaff
not to mention HHWC combined teams and agents to propel them into greatness.
I don't think the Estonian Wife Carriers were of any real significance. Didn't the HHWC merger really just add uf to the mix? I admit that I might have the details completely wrong on that because I barely even knew EWC existed back then.

Originally posted by
The only difference is we had a Badgerbacker and hays that for what every reason chooses make 100 dots per season.
I'll tell you one of the things that bothers me: Dpride has been more generous with his dots than the entire DS network. Like I said, getting Rodman's excellent DT doesn't mean the DT that would have been on Odessa now goes onto the open market. Dominating resources is a sound and successful business strategy, but it's not fun.

Originally posted by
It's also not great for GLB that 1% of the agents control of 95% of the WL. So what's the larger problem? DS or the 1% that own this game at the highest level?
You're aware of how much I do to try and help other teams, right? I don't know the answer to this, so I'm legitimately asking if you think I alone or the entire DS network have done more to try helping those other 99% experience the World League. There's nothing wrong with your success, I'm simply not a fan of how you go about it.


Originally posted by jdbolick
Originally posted by MadMustaff
I don't see what the big deal is.. Networks/ stand alone teams.
To elaborate on this, let's say that there are X number of WL quality dots. When one of that total signs with a stand-alone team, it doesn't change the parameters of X because that dot replaces some other dot which then becomes available to everyone else. On the other hand, every dot outside DS that signs with one of the network teams then shrinks the pool of available talent because the replaced player is shunted to some lower level network team instead of being available for recruiting. You have every right to do that, but it's precisely how networks hurt the game. They hoard resources.

DS is the Walmart of GLB.

Originally posted by Dub J
DS is the Walmart of GLB.

they pay dots ridiculously low salaries?

Just got a recruiting PM for my lvl 60s that has the following:

Established PO Team.
Seeking 1 or 2 replacements.
Try a season.
DS feeder
PM if interested.
Thanks

So is DS a network or not?

Lead Paint Mod.

Originally posted by Dr Seuss
Just got a recruiting PM for my lvl 60s that has the following:

Established PO Team.
Seeking 1 or 2 replacements.
Try a season.
DS feeder
PM if interested.
Thanks

So is DS a network or not?

conspiracy I tell ya

Networks, friends aligning together to make a team, whatever it is, has been part of the game since I bought my first team and before then

People aligned themselves with owners that wouldn't screw them over / rot their dot / buy them equipment / etc. They also migrate towards teams with coordinators so their dot can be on a winning team

Then when these people made new teams they made them together

As people got better at building dots, they stuck together more as the discrepancy between FA dots and elite dots grew wider

I credit JD (and some others) for trying to teach the GLB masses on how to build better and thus further the game

But at the end of the day, when a team with a track record of doing well wants a dot vs. ones that don't, most people won't take the chance of giving the other guy their dot

Originally posted by Dr Seuss
Just got a recruiting PM for my lvl 60s that has the following:

Established PO Team.
Seeking 1 or 2 replacements.
Try a season.
DS feeder
PM if interested.
Thanks

So is DS a network or not?

of course it is

it's in their team notes, they have their avatars, etc. mustaff is full of shit when he says DS is dissolved - no one believes that

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=5052471 - this thread certainly doesn't indicate any DS break up - fake or otherwise

Originally posted by jdbolick

Originally posted by MadMustaff

not to mention HHWC combined teams and agents to propel them into greatness.
I don't think the Estonian Wife Carriers were of any real significance. Didn't the HHWC merger really just add uf to the mix? I admit that I might have the details completely wrong on that because I barely even knew EWC existed back then.

That's a long story... short version:

EWC, HHW and TKW had been sharing agents and players for maybe 3-5 seasons. All three teams were in WL S13 or S14 and we decided to focus on one team (otherwise we would probably all have quit).

EWCs real significance was that, besides all the great agents that were added and mixed to one great team, uf and myself were to run things with datong, who after a couple of seasons withdrew from that stuff.. so uf and me alone were running things by S18 maybe(?), while datong continued to OC until S20.


On the topic of networks, HHWC has never had agents that made 15+ players every season...if we had that, who knows what we would have become. But it is certain, that we would have kept the best players for ourselves and not looking to the FAs, unless a very special dot was available. You can't really fault DS for that.. the same way you can't fault them for signing great FAs, since the FAs that join DS know they are stable and have a shot at the WL title every season.


Personally I enjoy the time from d20-d42, although less and less now, since you just don't find many quality players there anymore. That's not really DS's fault, though.. I think it's because fewer people play this game, and especially because most of the WL teams have farm teams (and those that haven't are at a disadvantage).

Originally posted by reddogrw
But at the end of the day, when a team with a track record of doing well wants a dot vs. ones that don't, most people won't take the chance of giving the other guy their dot
Sure, but that's not the issue at all. The problem is that of the X dots that should be playing in the World League, networks are generally responsible for the ones that don't. The issue is exacerbated by the dot shortage that kwankwan referenced. Plenty of DS National Pro teams and maybe even Regional Pro teams end up having better dots than WL squads. Again, they have absolutely every right to keep their dots off the market and I would never support GLB forcing them to do something else, but it's how networks "hurt the game."

Basically, Team A is the best team in the game right now and therefore Joe Dotbuilder wants to sign there. Understandable, as you said. But without networks, Joe Dotbuilder sending his elite dot to Team A would theoretically push a lesser player back into the pool available to all the other teams.

Originally posted by Dub J
DS is the Walmart of GLB.



Lol

Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
they pay dots ridiculously low salaries?

Even more Lol

Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
they pay dots ridiculously low salaries?

I seriously lol'd

I kinda like CBS more then the others, but cable TV networks have much more too offer. Fox on the other hand has been sucking pretty bad over the last couple of years, and with AMC's Walking dead on Sunday at 9 pm, I don't even watch The Family Guy any more.

The obvious answer to your question is: HOOD.