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DeeVee8
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I saw this guy leading the K/P race in PPL and it got me thinking...if you can build one this well then why the hell not save the roster spot?

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2256535

In olden days GLB this would have caused a nerfriot....
 
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His punting average is terribad, though... the only Punter with a worse punting average than his is a CPU Punter.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/stats.pl?season=33&league_id=13&conference_id=0&stat=kicking&sort=punt_yards/punts&playoffs=0&stat_type=raw

That alone makes me want a dedicated Punter. He's 6 yards behind the next-worst Punter, and 14.3 yards behind the best Punter in his league. Losing 14 yards on every punt can add up quick.
Edited by Novus on Mar 4, 2013 14:58:46
 
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Only reason he's leading the MVP race is because he's getting an unintended boost from the additional Punting yards. Since other kickers have 0 Punting yards, this guy having any at all gives him an advantage.

It's actually an exploit, when you think about it.
 
DeeVee8
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Yeah, he is going for back-to-back pro K/P MvPs....

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_awards.pl?player_id=2256535

But what you can't see is his inside20 inside10 inside5 CC numbers, I'd be interested to see that...I see so many punters going for hang time so I guess if you can get 10-12 Hang Time and enough strength then you can force a fair catch 9 times out of 10, making up at least 5-7 yards a punt. It might be worth it...
 
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Originally posted by Novus
Only reason he's leading the MVP race is because he's getting an unintended boost from the additional Punting yards. Since other kickers have 0 Punting yards, this guy having any at all gives him an advantage.

It's actually an exploit, when you think about it.


Exploit....what? lol

Sorry Pacific Pro for exploiting you with a terribad punt average. We just want that K/P MVP trophy so bad, because it's so good and it gives you a nice opportunity to win that highly sought after K/P gear, which makes every owner so happy.


OT I don't think having a hybrid K/P is worth it if you're trying to succeed at the top level... but you can get by in pro's just fine.
 
DeeVee8
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Originally posted by kwankwan
Exploit....what? lol

Sorry Pacific Pro for exploiting you with a terribad punt average. We just want that K/P MVP trophy so bad, because it's so good and it gives you a nice opportunity to win that highly sought after K/P gear, which makes every owner so happy.


OT I don't think having a hybrid K/P is worth it if you're trying to succeed at the top level... but you can get by in pro's just fine.


LoL, hey....if you get tired of playin' with that lolkickerpunter, you can give a real punter a try - http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2486615
 
Bane
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it's not worth it
 
Bladnach
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So many jealous special teamers without mvps in this thread
 
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Only thing. If you have a bad ass ST's squad. STOP killers and such. Hang punts up for FF and such otherwise its not worth it
 
Bane
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Originally posted by Bladnach
So many jealous special teamers without mvps in this thread


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http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_awards.pl?player_id=2173228
 
DeeVee8
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Originally posted by Bladnach
So many jealous special teamers without mvps in this thread


 
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http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4354037

Mostly hit XP's and punting, was not intended to be a kicker, but he's good at it. Oh yeah his awards http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_awards.pl?player_id=4354037
Edited by CyberNinja on Mar 4, 2013 18:40:40
 
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Originally posted by CyberNinja
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4354037

Mostly hit XP's and punting, was not intended to be a kicker, but he's good at it. Oh yeah his awards http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_awards.pl?player_id=4354037




130 kicking (after VAs) = 170 kicking so it's not like you need a lot. Starting with a punter as the base build and improving the build methods to get like 126/126 base would probably increase the punt avg to like 45 (if you take leg of steel to get a few of those bombers to increase your average which my dot didn't). The only question is if the oop penalty would be too severe for FGs but i suspect he'd be just as near 100% accurate as every kicker under 50ydsbut 50+ may be tougher. Still, just set his max range at like 52 or something

Punting is way harder than kicking because there is a level of skill variation that is not there with FGs. Kickers either make or miss and the threshold is super low and prob based on s1-3 builds still. Punting has a lot more variation of performance with distance/hang time/out of bounds angles to where you see benefit for each point in punting no matter how high it is. Deevee is right though that almost every punt of my guy's is a fair catch which means it's about the same as a guy with a 50 yd avg whose returners average 8-12 in return yards


People are wasting time with super high kicking builds on kickers. They may as well leave it at 130-140 and then maybe try for speed to help coverage or even blocking (since strength is already high-ish) to help block for returns
Edited by Bladnach on Mar 4, 2013 18:51:48
 
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Originally posted by Bladnach


130 kicking (after VAs) = 170 kicking so it's not like you need a lot.



Curious.....what VA gives you +40?
 
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Originally posted by whodey08
Curious.....what VA gives you +40?


that was my thought as well.... figured I was just not understanding something in his delivery
Edited by Bane on Mar 4, 2013 19:19:43
 
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