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I understand that I get 12 bonus tokens every 4 days on 4 multi train and only 8 tokens every 3 days on 3 multi train so that makes 36 BT in twelve days for 4-multi and 32 BT for 3-multi but the training is higher on 3-multi instead of 4-multi. Is there a clear cut winner??
 
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Training is not higher on 3-multi. 3-multi gives 120% of Intense, while 4-multi gives 130% of Intense. 4-way multi training is the clear cut winner.
 
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so in twelve days I would get 120% 4 times or 480% on 3-multi and 130% 3 times is 390%, not clear cut
 
InRomoWeTrust
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Originally posted by sficemanaz
so in twelve days I would get 120% 4 times or 480% on 3-multi and 130% 3 times is 390%, not clear cut


In your logic you're missing the fact that with 4-way training you are training 4 attributes as opposed to 3. The bonus is to each individual training percentage. You aren't getting 120%, in the sense of a standalone value, when you train.
Edited by InRomoWeTrust on Jan 21, 2013 22:11:21
 
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Originally posted by sficemanaz
so in twelve days I would get 120% 4 times or 480% on 3-multi and 130% 3 times is 390%, not clear cut


To put Romo's comments into math.

3-way multi training - In twelve days you get 120% * 3 attributes * 4 trainings = 1440% gain combined from all the trained attributes.

4-way multi training - In twelve days you get 130% * 4 attributes * 3 trainings = 1560% gain combined from all the trained attributes.

Add in the extra BTs, and it is pretty clear cut to me.
Edited by Plankton on Jan 21, 2013 22:35:10
 
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Originally posted by Plankton
To put Romo's comments into math.

3-way multi training - In twelve days you get 120% * 3 attributes * 4 trainings = 1440% gain combined from all the trained attributes.

4-way multi training - In twelve days you get 130% * 4 attributes * 3 trainings = 1560% gain combined from all the trained attributes.

Add in the extra BTs, and it is pretty clear cut to me.


I LOVE math.
 
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Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
I LOVE math.


I fell asleep reading this post.
 
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Sometimes people accept your response without proof, other times you have to show your work to prove your point.
 
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Originally posted by Plankton
To put Romo's comments into math.

3-way multi training - In twelve days you get 120% * 3 attributes * 4 trainings = 1440% gain combined from all the trained attributes.

4-way multi training - In twelve days you get 130% * 4 attributes * 3 trainings = 1560% gain combined from all the trained attributes.

Add in the extra BTs, and it is pretty clear cut to me.



4 trainings * 8 per train = 32 BT (12 days)
3 training * 12 per train = 36 BT (12 days)

Just to put your own comments to math...
 
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Originally posted by slashxtreme

4 trainings * 8 per train = 32 BT (12 days)
3 training * 12 per train = 36 BT (12 days)

Just to put your own comments to math...


That information was already in the OP.

Why do I feel that I am being trolled by a mod tho....

You can make fun of my choice in words if you like. I answered the OP's question, he replied with incorrect math. Mat corrected him, but I figured the OP might not understand without it being spelled out, so I spelled it out. If that offended others, well fuck off.
Edited by Plankton on Jan 22, 2013 16:30:28
 
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If you assume a uniform training percentage of x...

Training 3 ways gets you 120% of training percentage for 3 attributes = 1.2x * 3 = 3.6x.
Training 4 ways gets you 130% of training percentage for 4 attributes = 1.3x * 4 = 5.2x.

At the end of 12 days, you train 3 times on 4 way and 4 times on 3 way

3 way: 3.6x * 4 = 14.4x + 32 BTs
4 way: 5.2x * 3 = 15.6x + 36 BTs

At the end of 60 days (there are 57 days in a full season, so assume 1 season)

3 way: 3.6x * 4 * 5 = 72x + 160 BTs
4 way: 5.2x * 3 * 5 = 78x + 180 BTs

Over 4 seasons...approximate comparison:
3 way: 3.6x * 4 * 5 * 4 = 288x + 640 BTs
4 way: 5.2x * 3 * 5 * 4 = 312x + 720 BTs





 
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Originally posted by slashxtreme

4 trainings * 8 per train = 32 BT (12 days)
3 training * 12 per train = 36 BT (12 days)



wat?

this is proper right here:
Originally posted by Big Marc


Training 3 ways gets you 120% of training percentage for 3 attributes = 1.2x * 3 = 3.6x.
Training 4 ways gets you 130% of training percentage for 4 attributes = 1.3x * 4 = 5.2x.

At the end of 12 days, you train 3 times on 4 way and 4 times on 3 way

3 way: 3.6x * 4 = 14.4x + 32 BTs
4 way: 5.2x * 3 = 15.6x + 36 BTs

At the end of 60 days (there are 57 days in a full season, so assume 1 season)

3 way: 3.6x * 4 * 5 = 72x + 160 BTs
4 way: 5.2x * 3 * 5 = 78x + 180 BTs

Over 4 seasons...approximate comparison:
3 way: 3.6x * 4 * 5 * 4 = 288x + 640 BTs
4 way: 5.2x * 3 * 5 * 4 = 312x + 720 BTs





I don't know wtf slash is goin on about, but Big Marc just broke it down (as did plankton) correctly
 
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Originally posted by Bane
Originally posted by slashxtreme


4 trainings * 8 per train = 32 BT (12 days) (4 3-way trainings)
3 training * 12 per train = 36 BT (12 days) (3 4-way trainings)



wat?o_O

this is proper right here:
Originally posted by Big Marc



Training 3 ways gets you 120% of training percentage for 3 attributes = 1.2x * 3 = 3.6x.
Training 4 ways gets you 130% of training percentage for 4 attributes = 1.3x * 4 = 5.2x.

At the end of 12 days, you train 3 times on 4 way and 4 times on 3 way

3 way: 3.6x * 4 = 14.4x + 32 BTs
4 way: 5.2x * 3 = 15.6x + 36 BTs

At the end of 60 days (there are 57 days in a full season, so assume 1 season)

3 way: 3.6x * 4 * 5 = 72x + 160 BTs
4 way: 5.2x * 3 * 5 = 78x + 180 BTs

Over 4 seasons...approximate comparison:
3 way: 3.6x * 4 * 5 * 4 = 288x + 640 BTs
4 way: 5.2x * 3 * 5 * 4 = 312x + 720 BTs





I don't know wtf slash is goin on about, but Big Marc just broke it down (as did plankton) correctly


slash explained it correctly too

I added in the bold part to help you
 
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Originally posted by AirMcMVP
I fell asleep reading this post.


 
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Originally posted by reddogrw
slash explained it correctly too

I added in the bold part to help you


Ah, see he confused with the 4 train/3 train thing. I thought he was saying 4 way/3 way
 


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