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Where it says percentage bias, do they all have to add up to 100% for them to be balanced?

no you can in fact leave them all at 100% if you want to

Can auto adjust go above 100%? I assume no. If its running good plays it stays at 100 but if its not than it drops in %....is this correct?

Originally posted by whodey08
Can auto adjust go above 100%? I assume no. If its running good plays it stays at 100 but if its not than it drops in %....is this correct?

I know on the package level, I have several plays set to 200%

Originally posted by dss02
no you can in fact leave them all at 100% if you want to

This is correct. If you have packages that don't add up to 100%, the sim will re-calculate your percentages to have them add up to 100%. So if you have 5 plays at 100% each, the sim will automatically translate that to all 5 plays being at 20% each, so they'll each still be equal.

HOWEVER... keep in mind that if you leave them all at 100%, Auto-Adjust isn't going to work very well if you use it, since my understanding of Auto-Adjust is that it works BEFORE the sim does that calculation down to 100%.

So, for example, you have a package with 5 plays at 100% each, with Auto-Adjust set to "Very Quickly" in that package. You run the first play in the package, and it gets blown up for a 5-yard loss. Auto-Adjust will turn that 100% down to 95% in your package, so now you have 1 play at 95% and 4 plays at 100%. The package gets called again, and the sim calculates everything down to add up to 100%... resulting in 1 play at 19.2% and the other 4 plays at 20.2% each. So even though your package is set to Auto-Adjust "Very Quickly," the play that got blown up is now only 1% less-likely to get called.

That might be what you want, which is fine.

It's not what I want, however. So in my packages, I always make sure everything adds up to 100% just so I can have a better understanding of how Auto-Adjust is going to behave.

If you don't use Auto-Adjust, however, then none of this matters... set everything to 4,000,347% each if you like.

Originally posted by Novus
This is correct. If you have packages that don't add up to 100%, the sim will re-calculate your percentages to have them add up to 100%. So if you have 5 plays at 100% each, the sim will automatically translate that to all 5 plays being at 20% each, so they'll each still be equal.

HOWEVER... keep in mind that if you leave them all at 100%, Auto-Adjust isn't going to work very well if you use it, since my understanding of Auto-Adjust is that it works BEFORE the sim does that calculation down to 100%.

So, for example, you have a package with 5 plays at 100% each, with Auto-Adjust set to "Very Quickly" in that package. You run the first play in the package, and it gets blown up for a 5-yard loss. Auto-Adjust will turn that 100% down to 95% in your package, so now you have 1 play at 95% and 4 plays at 100%. The package gets called again, and the sim calculates everything down to add up to 100%... resulting in 1 play at 19.2% and the other 4 plays at 20.2% each. So even though your package is set to Auto-Adjust "Very Quickly," the play that got blown up is now only 1% less-likely to get called.

That might be what you want, which is fine.

It's not what I want, however. So in my packages, I always make sure everything adds up to 100% just so I can have a better understanding of how Auto-Adjust is going to behave.

If you don't use Auto-Adjust, however, then none of this matters... set everything to 4,000,347% each if you like.


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Originally posted by jampysos

Someone Mod this man

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Originally posted by Novus
GOOD GRIEF WHY WOULD YOU WISH THIS UPON ME

It's that "winning" smile ya got there, Novie.

Originally posted by Novus
This is correct. If you have packages that don't add up to 100%, the sim will re-calculate your percentages to have them add up to 100%. So if you have 5 plays at 100% each, the sim will automatically translate that to all 5 plays being at 20% each, so they'll each still be equal.

HOWEVER... keep in mind that if you leave them all at 100%, Auto-Adjust isn't going to work very well if you use it, since my understanding of Auto-Adjust is that it works BEFORE the sim does that calculation down to 100%.

So, for example, you have a package with 5 plays at 100% each, with Auto-Adjust set to "Very Quickly" in that package. You run the first play in the package, and it gets blown up for a 5-yard loss. Auto-Adjust will turn that 100% down to 95% in your package, so now you have 1 play at 95% and 4 plays at 100%. The package gets called again, and the sim calculates everything down to add up to 100%... resulting in 1 play at 19.2% and the other 4 plays at 20.2% each. So even though your package is set to Auto-Adjust "Very Quickly," the play that got blown up is now only 1% less-likely to get called.

That might be what you want, which is fine.

It's not what I want, however. So in my packages, I always make sure everything adds up to 100% just so I can have a better understanding of how Auto-Adjust is going to behave.

If you don't use Auto-Adjust, however, then none of this matters... set everything to 4,000,347% each if you like.

Interesting -- following that theory (re-calculation occurs prior to percentage balancing) then you should consider having your plays add up to 50 - wouldn't that make your auto-adjust work even better?

I have a feeling that the game loads your AIs and Packages - adjusts percentages to 100 prior to kick off, and from there all auto-adjust is applied to those 'loaded' AIs and Packages.

This approach makes very good sense as it separates your high read-write data tables (data tables used to store everyone's AI's and Packages) from the read-only use necessary when your team plays a game. Both the sims and editing your Packages/AIs would be very slow if the sim and UI were leveraging the same data tables.


just my 2 cents


Fish

Originally posted by whodey08
Can auto adjust go above 100%? I assume no. If its running good plays it stays at 100 but if its not than it drops in %....is this correct?

Nor can a play in a package ever be adjusted to 0%

Originally posted by IdRatherFlyFish
Interesting -- following that theory (re-calculation occurs prior to percentage balancing) then you should consider having your plays add up to 50 - wouldn't that make your auto-adjust work even better?

Well, it would certainly work FASTER, but that's not necessarily BETTER. Depends on what you want to do.

Originally posted by IdRatherFlyFish
I have a feeling that the game loads your AIs and Packages - adjusts percentages to 100 prior to kick off, and from there all auto-adjust is applied to those 'loaded' AIs and Packages.

My understanding is that it works the way I explained above, not the way you're saying. So I guess one of us should go look through all of Bort's Q&A answers on Auto-Adjust and figure it out.

I do know this, though... for a while, I made sure to always make all the percentages in my packages add up to 100%, but after a while I got lazy with it and just put ALL of the plays in my packages to 100% each and didn't worry about what they all added up to. Later, I started using Auto-Adjust in my offensive packages, but it always seemed like Auto-Adjust really didn't do much. So, I switched back to making sure all of my percentages added up to 100%, and suddenly Auto-Adjust started acting the way I wanted it to: calling better plays more and calling worse plays less.

So, that's been my experience, and that's why I make sure the percentages add up to (or at least near) 100%. Doesn't take long to take 100, divide it by the number of plays in my package, and enter that in each space. (Unless you're doing a Package with, like 87 plays in it or something, in which case I'd say you're making things WAY too complicated.) Doesn't even have to be 100% exactly, just close to it. I like 8-play packages a lot, and I know off the top of my head that if I put each one at 12%, it adds up to 96%. Close enough. Auto-Adjust works just fine with that.