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yello1
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Does this work at the pro level? Says "younger players" but the text is not age based at all beyond that.

And is this a good VA, does it work or is it cost effective? If your defender has 70 or 80 vision he loses 14 to 16, that seems like a huge hit to the defender in the pass coverage.

Should every high fame receiver have this?
 
foshizzel17
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yes. we always use it my WL teams
 
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FOR A SEASON 1 OWNER, YOU ASK THE MORE IGNORANT QUESTIONS
 
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eh...seems overrated.
 
InRomoWeTrust
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Originally posted by bhall43
eh...seems overrated.


ETA: It's always been one of those VAs where you feel like it should work better than it actually does.
Edited by InRomoWeTrust on Dec 6, 2012 14:20:58
 
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It's one of those VAs where it is tough to know when it had the opportunity to activate, and what would have happened had it not activated.

The number of route fakes might have been lower but for the VA, but you can't be sure. The reaction speed on the D might have been faster, but you don't know.

It is tricky because vision rolls aren't easy to predict (either when they occur or how well the roll went).

If your player played on a winning team during the minors, you will have a higher chance of it activating than if your minor league team had zero cares.
 
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Good point about the potential impact on fakes.
 
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http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2355583
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2092505

I use it on my Dharma WRs because they won five gold trophies in the minors, which gave them a lot of fame for their age group.

 
yello1
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Okay so we do not know if it works for sure, but it definitely is NOT age limited despite the language about "younger" in the description?
 
Bane
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maybe
 
bhall43
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its not limited by age.

I think it works. However I am not sure that it is worth the 15 VA's at this point.
 
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Its hard to measure it's effect on outside runs by elusive backs to the side with a WR that has it, since it affects any and all defenders set to man cover that WR for the entire play.
 
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i thought all sa's were working as intended
 
tpaterniti
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Waste of time. I had a WR with that plus underdog which should cause a 20% vision hit on defenders 45% of the time (yeah I know, 45% of the time it works every time) unless they have exactly the same fame as you. But in reality I saw no difference. I never tried it with a very heavy fake build but I have learned over time that basing your success on just about any unproven VA or SA is pointless.
 
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