Warrior General Games

I know it is probably on the NGTH list, but it would add a new fold to building a player. Also having to spend SA points on SAs will make WL planned dots a bit more fun early on. I would say you could still add regular SP to SAs but having specific SA points I think would add a fun element, and make lower levels slightly better.



Well so much for that idea. I think it could have brought the fun to lower levels. We all know the highest levels and natty Pro are separated by good builds having SAs, and not having SAs. I guess the Admins do not want a fun experience at the lower levels. Just wait almost a year like everyone else (that is left) and like it.

interesting idea. I do think it has been said that there will be no changes to the way players are built. i wish they would at least consider interesting ideas like this before slamming the door on them.

I agree with both of you. While it's understandable that once you have a system in place that works as you want it to, it doesn't mean someone out there cannot think of better ideas towards making the system even better. As for the OP, while it's a really good idea, 2 things come to mind. #1, it would mean a revamp of how SP's are dealt out since SP's probably would no longer be allowed to be spent on SA's (and shouldn't be allowed, IMHO). And, #2, making such an implementation should probably be posted at LEAST one season in advance before making it actually happen. This would give people time to consider whether or not to continue certain dots they own and prepare themselves for the new build setup. Dropping this into a season already in progress... or just at the start of a season, doesn't give folks much time to prepare and, I promise, would lead to a ton of gripes and complaints.
+1

+1

They give out enough of those with SP's, AEQ, and Custom EQ Upgrades....Working as intended.....

No one is stopping you from putting SPs into SAs at the lower levels.

great idea donk!

but prob wont happen

It's an interesting idea, but it kind of reduces the variability in builds. What do you do with pos's that have sucky SA's ( see LB'ers) etc... Also, the dots that are coming out of plateau now are already pretty advanced. Won't adding this make them more advanced... I don't see this happening

1) You would need to balance the SAs, some builds need them far more than others;
2) You would need to balance out the effect of adding SAs versus adding points into attributes.

LBs get shitty VAs. Don't make me choose between adding a point into Growl or Aura. If they are going to do this, they need to let use choose ANY SA to add points into instead of giving us the ten starting SAs in the tree and any additional SA that we add.

Also, does this mean that we can start buying AEQ that have +1 to a VA instead of just SAs? I wouldn't mind having 21 points in some VAs...

Right now, there is a point in your build where you need to stop adding points into your build in order to fill up your SAs. For some builds, that point might be at level 56 and for others it might be at level 73. This suggestion takes away from some of this planning, which I think is one of the major differentiators of builds at the highest level (that and AEQ).

I think, if I understand the OP correctly, he's talking about not being able to put SP's into SA's anymore to make this work. SA points would follow the same (or very similar) pattern as VA's do now. What points you put into what SA's would still be personal and no different than it is now, really. Nobody (smart) puts SP's into SA's until later in the dot's career. Same with VA's... and this would follow suit. Also, I didn't see where he suggested that the SA progression tree would change either... so nobody's gonna build superman. Dots should not change overall... just the format for dealing out how SA's are done. It's for that reason I supported the idea in the first place.
It's also why I believe the hardest part to make this happen is how to bridge dots built now as opposed to dots built under the new system. Not saying it can't be done... just saying it won't be easy.
Still +1 from me.

I think you completely missed what I was saying.

The idea of buying AEQ with +something to a VA is very interesting. The more different ways there are to build a player makes it more fun and interesting.

I would be for both ideas.

As far as some positions having bad SA's (LB) you can always buy an extra SA or add it with AEQ and use it. I believe that is what most people do now.

The idea was to give out SA points to use instead of using SP. I'm suggesting two reasons why there would need to be a more significant overhaul to the suggestion to make it palletable.

We would have to change the whole EQ system and all of that, Not worth the change IMO.

I actually like the +1,2,3 VA idea better. Would make for more options building dots. TT, you should make that is own separate thread.

I like the SA idea but i don't what could be done with the existing dots to change them over to a new building system.