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if a guy is a deep zone safety type--supposedly there to be the last line of defense in case someone breaks out long, he needs to STAY there.

too often on runs--especially clustered things like counter plays, the deep zone guy runs up rather than staying deep.

maybe there needs to be another level to DPC with different instructions for "read run" vs. "read pass"

example http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2198973&pbp_id=4252731 the FS in lined up as far back as he can possibly be set and instructed to cover zone deep, deep middle... as the play unfolds he moves up to the shallowest part of his zone to where he no longer has any chance to be the safety valve at all.

I agree, That Replay is low Lvl. guys so maybe a bad example but on this Play, FS is set to Middle Deep 4th Zone and watch what he does: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2171623&pbp_id=3955078

I'll even take it further and say this goes to the heart of "prevent" style defensive sets late in the game with a lead. I've seen plenty of time where the safeties move up to cover a receiver, leaving a speedy WR to zip right past them and beat them deep. This should NEVER happen if DC's were allowed to set the safeties to "STAY IN DEEP ZONE".
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Look at the FS in this Play from one of my 4-4 Looks, lol: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2199758&pbp_id=4215888 What ever happened to the Safety getting "The Angle", lol? He looks to be "Chasing" the Back if anything to me?

I believe the Cover Zone Immediately option will do what you are asking but yeah...lots of issues with pathing & decision to "run up the gut". Especially for the DBs...because they are typically set for "pass focus" they have a tendency to run straight for the QB as if it means "blitz QB!".

But I'm all for the addition of more DPC control of the behaviors on the field because the player tactics are too simplified for all of the situations needed & not intuitive.

Originally posted by fogie55
if a guy is a deep zone safety type--supposedly there to be the last line of defense in case someone breaks out long, he needs to STAY there.

too often on runs--especially clustered things like counter plays, the deep zone guy runs up rather than staying deep.

maybe there needs to be another level to DPC with different instructions for "read run" vs. "read pass"

example http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2198973&pbp_id=4252731 the FS in lined up as far back as he can possibly be set and instructed to cover zone deep, deep middle... as the play unfolds he moves up to the shallowest part of his zone to where he no longer has any chance to be the safety valve at all.

Just change the zone to one of the outside options such as deep weak and the FS would of been where you want him, but then you have been around long enough to know that, so I'm guessing you just want more control instead of having to deal with the age old problem. " If I'm strong here then I'm weak there". Which by the way, I think is what Bort wants so that we can't have one defense be the answer to everything.