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As it stands right now, a team can only sign day 0 players throughout the season. Peewee teams cannot sign lvl 4 players either even if they were boosted during the current season. GLB should allow PW teams to sign players according to the current age of the dots signed with other peewee teams.

In other words, if all the dots with established peewee teams are 8 days old, teams still recruiting should be able to sign dots that are up to day 8 in age. Dots that are of appropriate age and boosted during the current season should also be able to sign with a peewee team.

In order to prevent teams from exploiting this there should be rules in place.

- If a dot signed with a peewee team and the team gutted or the player was cut the dot cannot sign with another peewee team. This prevents collusion.

- The signing deadline for signing dots over day 0 should be day 20-22. This prevents teams from camping dots out in the D-leagues and then swapping them out later in the season. This prevents league imbalances.

plus one.

i love the idea of a rolling age cap. if its day 7 or so on we should be able to sign them at the current age.

I vote yes.

This would increase interest in PW as well make it more competitive. Especially in the silver leagues.

Maybe PW not ded after all

We gonna bring it back. I know some admins. While most of them hate me, they do in fact know me.

Plus fucking 700 thousand halves

I was thinking about buying a team the other day but I couldn't because PW has that only signing level 1 crap

This basically turns PW into the Rookie league, with the only difference is that the PW teams stay in PW and the Rookie teams move on at the end of the season.

I like this idea, but only see it working if GLB killed the Rookie leagues outright and thus forced all 1st season players to either join a PW team or go through the CPU D-Leagues.

This would revive a stale PW league and make things much more interesting, but there are both PRO's & CON's...


PRO's:

1. With PW teams able to sign level 4 players with 0 XP, you will see more boosted players available to PW.

2. With more boosted players and the possibility of two boosts by the playoffs, no-no teams would be at a much greater disadvantage, and thus not as popular. That would force the better teams to recruit boosted players and/or boost their own players, meaning more $$$ for GLB.

3. This would bring player recruitment through the Marketplace to PW where in the past, it was only agent recruitment.

4. There would be a huge influx of players into PW and that would restore life to the dying PW leagues.

5. Gives agents with 1st season players more competition for their long term players than the Rookie league was able to do.

6. While the better teams will still likely be filled with boosted 1&done PW only players, 2nd tier teams will be more competitive as they will be full of boosted long term builds, some with a 2nd boost at playoffs, bringing more competition to PW in general.

7. Gets most agents more familiar with PW and that there is serious competition here and thus you wont see as many LOL-PW posts.

8. Would give teams looking to recruit a means to give agents a "trial" period via a recruitment PW team to make sure they want them on their Prep teams.


CON's:

1. With the loss of the Rookie Leagues, teams will no longer be able to start from the ground up, but instead have to start with 2nd season players, much like it was before.

2. Recruitment in PW will become harder.

3. PW was always a niche league, and this change makes it more main stream.

4. Will have to increase the number of PW leagues and might have to re-examine the Gold-Silver-Copper make up. Personally, I say get rid of Copper and have all Silver leagues and one Gold league. That would make the competition at the Gold level higher.


Thoughts?

No, GLB does not have to get rid of rookie leagues to improve PW. All that would do is create a bunch of shitty PW teams because it would just re-introduce reg/cas farm teams back to PW.

Why would recruiting in PW become harder if there are more players available throughout the first half of the season to sign? That makes no sense. As far as making it more mainstream, no. Peewee builds are still different than players built for the other two league types so that argument is baffling as well.

To be honest, if it ever came down to PW vs. rookie...peewee would be the one axed. That's one of the reasons I don't go there.

Originally posted by Dub J
No, GLB does not have to get rid of rookie leagues to improve PW. All that would do is create a bunch of shitty PW teams because it would just re-introduce reg/cas farm teams back to PW.

Why would recruiting in PW become harder if there are more players available throughout the first half of the season to sign? That makes no sense. As far as making it more mainstream, no. Peewee builds are still different than players built for the other two league types so that argument is baffling as well.

To be honest, if it ever came down to PW vs. rookie...peewee would be the one axed. That's one of the reasons I don't go there.



However you do it, you don't need both PW & Rookie as that spreads the 1st season talent out too much. Thus my idea was one way to combine them picking the best traits from both. One of the best things from PW is that the teams stay there season after season, allowing for a tier system akin to the WL, but at this low level. Unless they request a demotion, most Pro teams stay in the Pro's season after season just recruiting new players and the best teams make it to the WL. PW does exactly that but at a 1st season level.

And when I said recruitment would be harder, I should have said for the top tier teams in order to stay on top. I agree it would be easier for low-mid tier teams.

I'm suggesting something that can be implemented. You're suggesting something that has absolutely no chance in hell. It's almost as if you're intentionally trying to sabotage this suggestion.

Once again, there are MANY, MANY more people involved with regular and casual than those involved with PW. If it comes down to it Bort will kill PW before he does rookie.

Why would you want PW and rookie teams merged anyway? You are completely disregarding the fact that both league types have entirely different build strategies. With what you are suggesting we would either have further watered down peewee or the same peewee as we have now and a D-league system that's not equipped to handle the huge influx of new dots.

I think I finally understand something here...

PW is still going to be built for one and done pretty much, not going to change because of this.

Rookie will still be teams that decide to go as far as they can.

PW is already dying, why would Bort cut Rookie leagues? He makes so much money off of people renewing seasons and players boosting. Not with PW.

amirite

Not trying to kill your suggestion. It's a good idea, but in the end is only a band-aid fix for a larger problem, which I am trying address.

PW is dying because there are too many options for 1st season players and not enough choose the PW route. Ya your idea would bring more into PW, but at the expense of the Rookie leagues. As a PW owner, that's good for me, which is why I like it, but it's still not a good perm fix for a larger problem.

I would be very happy if this was implemented as it would help PW, but I still think it's only a minor fix for a much larger problem.

Originally posted by Gerr
And when I said recruitment would be harder, I should have said for the top tier teams in order to stay on top. I agree it would be easier for low-mid tier teams.


No, not at all.

If a PW team is looking for dots on day 1, 4, 15... they are not in direct recruiting competition with the top teams. If a "top team" is truly that then they are not looking for dots beyond day 42 or 43 of the previous offseason.

Most of this applies to new teams and new users. Ask yourself this question. Who is most likely to create a new player on day 5? That's right, a new user.

A lot of this also has to do with someone that sold a team after it was knocked out of the playoffs the previous season and then deciding to own a PW. They have to wait 21 days to buy another team, though. This puts them at buying a team and putting a roster together after the season has already started.

Your post seems reeks of insecurity, tbh. Why in the hell would an established team be worried about a team trying to put a roster together during the season?

Originally posted by BagO'Chips
I think I finally understand something here...

PW is still going to be built for one and done pretty much, not going to change because of this.

Rookie will still be teams that decide to go as far as they can.

PW is already dying, why would Bort cut Rookie leagues? He makes so much money off of people renewing seasons and players boosting. Not with PW.

amirite

PW doesn't require 1&done, but team with more 1&done players tend to do better. The larger problem is that at the current status, no one going for level 79 could join a PW team, which is what Dub is trying to address. That means only 1&done players join PW and there is simply not enough of those.

Most PW owners/coaches stay in PW not because of it's 1&done nature, but instead because the teams don't move on and that created a tier system akin to the Pro leagues. AI's can be adjusted to take advantage of 1&done players, but not having to recruit heavily and being able to switch AI's from season to season to try new things out is what really keeps us around. Most of that could be done in a Rookie league that recycles teams rather than lets them move on, so either way would work.