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Originally posted by T♠2♠

I think it would be a move in a positive direction to just allow a QB to avoid throwaways completely using individual tactics. I thought that was the intention to begin with, but apparently QBs are throwing the ball away even when their tactics are set be aggressive with the ball.

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I will never concede that throwaways are beneficial, particularly when setting are dictating not to do it.



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Can we get rid of this option from QB tactics or at least alter them? Throw aways should not happen unless the QB has escaped the pocket. That is a penalty and a loss of yards and down in real life. It robs a defender of a sack, not to mention the opportunity for the offense to make a play.

The throw aways don't make sense and it bothers me. My vote is to get rid of it altogether.

I think you need to study up on the "Intentional Grounding" rule.

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No U

+1 till they implement a chance of a penalty if he botches it.

Originally posted by IdRatherFlyFish


I think you need to study up on the "Intentional Grounding" rule.

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But seriously, wtf are you talking about?

GLB: QB stands in pocket, gets pressured, throws ball sideways. Incomplete.

Every other league in the world: QB stands in pocket, gets pressured, throws ball sideways. Flag. Loss of down. Lose yardage.

Originally posted by T¢¼2¢¼
But seriously, wtf are you talking about?

GLB: QB stands in pocket, gets pressured, throws ball sideways. Incomplete.

Every other league in the world: QB stands in pocket, gets pressured, throws ball sideways. Flag. Loss of down. Lose yardage.

He means that a QB can throw the ball away in a manner that avoids the penalty if he makes it in the general direction of a receiver.

Which is why I say that it is okay to have, so long as they have a chance of a penalty if he screws up the attempt (call it a vision & throwing check).

Add in maybe a chance of an interception if he screws it up too.

Originally posted by IdRatherFlyFish


I think you need to study up on the "Intentional Grounding" rule.

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Okay. Let's all study up together.

http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/intentionalgrounding
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intentional_grounding

From the NFL... "Intentional grounding will be called when a passer, facing an imminent loss of yardage due to pressure from the defense, throws a forward pass without a realistic chance of completion."

So, if you're inside the tackle box, under pressure, and throw the ball away... that's intentional grounding.

What T-2- is complaining about is that very thing: QBs in GLB are inside the tackle box, under pressure, and throwing the ball away... and there's no penalty.

I agree with T2 here atleast make the QB under pressure try to get outside the box before throwing it away.

Only problem with this is that "intentional grounding" is a judgement call by refs on the field. That obviously can't happen in this SIM.

Originally posted by whodey08
Only problem with this is that "intentional grounding" is a judgement call by refs on the field. That obviously can't happen in this SIM.

True but it could be coded to make a pass in the direction of a receiver instead of just throwing it like it has been doing.

Originally posted by whodey08
Only problem with this is that "intentional grounding" is a judgement call by refs on the field. That obviously can't happen in this SIM.

The only problem is that its a waste of a play, it doesn't make football sense, and is generally accepted as a QB tactic you should avoid. Why not fix it or just get rid of it?

Show of hands - who likes throw aways? They could wipe it from the game within the next hour, and not one damn person would miss it. It's garbage.

Isn't false starts a judgement call by the refs?

We have those in this sim

I have yet to watch a sim this season, but I already dislike throw aways without even seeing one

Originally posted by whodey08
Only problem with this is that "intentional grounding" is a judgement call by refs on the field.

ALL calls in football are judgement calls by the refs.

Doesn't matter if the football broke the plane of the endzone or not... what actually matters is whether or not the ref SAYS the ball broke the plane or not. Refs can be wrong, of course, but the ref's judgement call is the only thing that matters for determining the outcome of a play.

In GLB, there are no refs. The sim knows EXACTLY where the ball is and where the players are. The sim knows if the ball broke the plane of the goalline or not.

Similarly, on an intentional grounding call, the sim knows if the QB is inside or outside of the tackle box. The sim knows if the QB is just trying to throw the ball away. The sim knows exactly how far away the nearest eligible receiver is from where the pass lands. And that is all the information that is needed to determine if it's intentional grounding or not.

The sim wouldn't need to make a judgement. The sim would actually KNOW.

Originally posted by IdRatherFlyFish


I think you need to study up on the "Intentional Grounding" rule.

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The bug moderators are making me really sad. Do they understand the game of football. Perhaps it is not a prerequisite, but it might be beneficial.