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IE if a guy is LOLB(2) and ROLB(1) will be always be in at ROLB if he has the energy? Or will be get sucked into LOLB if the LOLB(1) is tired?

Trying to get him in at LOLB more often in 326, but while still having him start at ROLB.
 
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think it depends on if you have a back-up at ROLB. If no listed reserve at ROLB he may not back-up the LOLB once LOLB gets tired.

Also depends on players stamina and energy settings I would assume. And how often you have a ROLB on the field (some DC's might play a lot of Dime,Nickle, 3-2-6 or quarter D where there is no ROLB) If the ROLB is super fresh (again dependentant on energy settings and if a listed back-up at ROLB) he might sub in more. Then again, if one where to play a lot of D formations where the ROLB never on field, I guess he would then take the LOLB(2) slot more often.

I hope my confusion helps
Edited by Bane on Sep 10, 2012 18:24:06
Edited by Bane on Sep 10, 2012 18:23:18
 
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Originally posted by Bane
think it depends on if you have a back-up at ROLB. If no listed reserve at ROLB he may not back-up the LOLB once LOLB gets tired.

Also depends on players stamina and energy settings I would assume. And how often you have a ROLB on the field (some DC's might play a lot of Dime,Nickle, 3-2-6 or quarter D where there is no ROLB) If the ROLB is super fresh (again dependentant on energy settings and if a listed back-up at ROLB) he might sub in more. Then again, if one where to play a lot of D formations where the ROLB never on field, I guess he would then take the LOLB(2) slot more often.

I hope my confusion helps


No he's asking fill order. There's a defined order in which the players are 'placed' into their slots on the field from the depth chart.

Unfortunately I do not know if LOLB or ROLB fills first. I'd have to run a scrim to test it.
 
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Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
No he's asking fill order. There's a defined order in which the players are 'placed' into their slots on the field from the depth chart.

Unfortunately I do not know if LOLB or ROLB fills first. I'd have to run a scrim to test it.


Read to me like he was asking if a dot placed on depth chart at ROLB(1) and also at LOLB(2) would ever actually sub in at LOLB. That's the question I was attempting to answer.
 
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Both are correct. I was looking for fill order so I can know in this context and any others that come up. But also specific positional tips like that as to this situation are appreciated.
 
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Originally posted by Bane
think it depends on if you have a back-up at ROLB. If no listed reserve at ROLB he may not back-up the LOLB once LOLB gets tired.

Also depends on players stamina and energy settings I would assume. And how often you have a ROLB on the field (some DC's might play a lot of Dime,Nickle, 3-2-6 or quarter D where there is no ROLB) If the ROLB is super fresh (again dependentant on energy settings and if a listed back-up at ROLB) he might sub in more. Then again, if one where to play a lot of D formations where the ROLB never on field, I guess he would then take the LOLB(2) slot more often.

I hope my confusion helps


^This is correct, if there is no back up for the ROLB then the player would always play ROLB unless there is no ROLB on the field. If he has a backup that's ready to play he could sub in for the tired LOLB1.

Hopefully that makes sense!
 
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I have recently been having issues with my blitzing LB being subbed in improperly. He is the only LB in the depth chart at LOLB1, ROLB1 and MLB1... and is not listed in any of the regular LB spots. There have been many situations recently where he has been subbed in for plays as a coverage LB even though that DAI output does not specify LOLB1, MLB1 or ROLB1. I have tested my DAI multiple times and checked through my outputs multiple times. The times when it is happening is when the LB selection drop down in the output is left blank.

Does leaving it blank somehow allow the cpu to pull from anyone who is a linebacker instead of only using dots listed in the depth chart under MLB, etc?

If so, this should actually create anarchy in the LB positions since I always leave the drop down blank unless I am using the custom slots to bring in my blitzer. If it is happening on these specific plays and with that specific LB why isn't it happening all over my DAI and why aren't all of my LBs being used in random LB positions throughout the game?
 
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Originally posted by Gigolo Johnny D
I have recently been having issues with my blitzing LB being subbed in improperly. He is the only LB in the depth chart at LOLB1, ROLB1 and MLB1... and is not listed in any of the regular LB spots. There have been many situations recently where he has been subbed in for plays as a coverage LB even though that DAI output does not specify LOLB1, MLB1 or ROLB1. I have tested my DAI multiple times and checked through my outputs multiple times. The times when it is happening is when the LB selection drop down in the output is left blank.

Does leaving it blank somehow allow the cpu to pull from anyone who is a linebacker instead of only using dots listed in the depth chart under MLB, etc?

If so, this should actually create anarchy in the LB positions since I always leave the drop down blank unless I am using the custom slots to bring in my blitzer. If it is happening on these specific plays and with that specific LB why isn't it happening all over my DAI and why aren't all of my LBs being used in random LB positions throughout the game?


I am no maven but it sounds to me like the game is filling your LB slots in such a way that one of them is coming up empty and pulling from your general LB population.

Is this the Vikings?

You have no LBs assigned to your ILB slots. If you call a 3-4 the game will pull LBs from your roster since you did not tell it who to pick. Could that be it?
 
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Originally posted by EllisBell
^This is correct, if there is no back up for the ROLB then the player would always play ROLB unless there is no ROLB on the field. If he has a backup that's ready to play he could sub in for the tired LOLB1.

Hopefully that makes sense!


I always thought that LOLB filled before ROLB? so if the starting LOLB was too tired, the LB would go in at LOLB and if a ROLB was needed, it would be a grabbag of who knows what.

but the real moral of the story is to never only have 1 player in a position, because glb is not intelligent at all when it needs a player and 1 wasnt specified. kinda like the old days b4 the GL dc. if people didnt have 3 TEs listed, glb would start grabbing players with no logic and the next think you knew, your fs was playing rb.
 


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